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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 09 2015 11:19 Nemireck wrote: Just because the system works doesn't mean they can't tweak it to make it a less frustrating experience. The reality is that really, everything is based off your "hidden" MMR, it's what the system actually shows you that becomes annoying. Tweaking the system is incredibly easy. Besides, it's not like they haven't tweaked it before. There has been many fixes for clamping, etc. and there are tons of changes that Riot made but were never made public. For example, around July last year Riot adjusted matchmaking to put a much more skilled team on the purple side to counteract the blue side advantage. Later on they fixed a bug that put too many Challenger players on the purple side. There are probably tons of other changes that got pushed to live that I haven't noticed because it's actually pretty hard to locate them despite having close to 100 million games of data to mine from. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
On September 09 2015 13:26 JimmiC wrote: Do you think it could actually work vs oeople of same skill as you. Or does it work for the guy cause he is so much better? Sure, I like to think anything is possible. It's just comparatively bad. Other junglers do jungling better than him. The only thing he can do well is gank and counter gank. Even that isn't great. There's no guarantee he'll land two bombs for the stun. I mean, his first clear is three camps and he has to wait a few seconds to clear his third camp. He leaves his second buff up to be counter jungled and if anyone blows on him too hard during his first clear he's dead. He has to 100% commit to ganking lanes to earn an income. He can't farm the jungle well until he gets an item. Even with an item his clear is bad. So there's no "farm your way back into the game" for him. His objective control is terrible. He only has bombs to contribute to taking down a dragon and he doesn't want to tank it. But it's so much fun! Give it a try! | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On September 09 2015 12:33 Sonnington wrote: So I checked out a replay of that Zilean jungle guy. He went golems, red, waited a few seconds, then did wolves before backing. It worked out pretty well. You get level three then just start ganking like crazy. I think you pretty much have to start on red buff to get the passive hp regen. I tried it out and a wrecked during laning phase, hard. I went something like 4-0-4 in the first 15-20 minutes. Then I kinda licked balls because I suck at landing bombs and I was bad at applying the ult properly. I did it in a diamond game and the opposite happened, I got counter jungled hard by elise early but then lategame I carried with my slows/speed ups and ult. ended 6-3-12 or something like that. I almost fell out of my chair laughing when midgame I maxed E second and speed boosted my viktor toward their team and he just ran in before their adc could react and instabursted tristana LOL E maxed is so strong its crazy it also made me think of a fun gangplank centric push comp. Between barrels/gp ult/zilean bombs you have insane control over an area. I think if you added a heimerdinger and then tristana for your tower killer you have the making of an incredibly annoying team. as jungler you would probably want something like ekko just to keep bubbling your own team and make engaging really hard. Sounds like a funny team on paper | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
Rekkles and Febiven playing against imp on KR ladder. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On September 09 2015 09:39 Sufficiency wrote: It's just your anecdote. The fact of the matter is that it works. A Gold I player from Season 4 takes significantly fewer games to return to Gold than a Gold V player, for example. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4vKLCyt.png) To me this graph is a pretty good indicator of frustration, that's a lot of games for some people. It's more than I play in a season, but I never really have issues getting gold for free skins in the 10-20 games I play either so. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 09 2015 23:27 Ansibled wrote: To me this graph is a pretty good indicator of frustration, that's a lot of games for some people. It's more than I play in a season, but I never really have issues getting gold for free skins in the 10-20 games I play either so. It's not a lot of games. If you are on the higher side of Gold it doesn't actually take that many games to return to gold. The struggle is real only when you were barely gold last season. Not to mention it takes time for players to adjust to the new season. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
It is a new season for everyone so don't think that matters at all. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Mensol
14536 Posts
OG arrived in Korea yesterday. TSM, fnatic, C9, CLG, OG and H2K, all West in Korea l o l. btw febiven made challenger league in KR ladder. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Mensol
14536 Posts
On September 10 2015 01:54 krndandaman wrote: None to china? Unfortunately yes. Only ahq is in China afaik. They are practicing in EDG house. Mountain says that EDG is 15-0 against ahq in scrims. ahq usually getting gold lead in early but falling in late according to him. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On September 10 2015 01:54 krndandaman wrote: None to china? Not much point when they all play on the Korean server anyway, in addition to Korea being easier to get into. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On September 09 2015 23:27 Ansibled wrote: To me this graph is a pretty good indicator of frustration, that's a lot of games for some people. It's more than I play in a season, but I never really have issues getting gold for free skins in the 10-20 games I play either so. That is true. But the vast majority of those gold 5 players probably are not actually gold 5 by "centered" MMR but Silver 1 by "centered" MMR. I mean, after 5 to 6 promotions its highly likely that someone who isn't actually gold 5 but rather the middle of Silver 1 will promote. If they play enough games they will get there by random chance. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On September 10 2015 02:58 Goumindong wrote: That is true. But the vast majority of those gold 5 players probably are not actually gold 5 by "centered" MMR but Silver 1 by "centered" MMR. I mean, after 5 to 6 promotions its highly likely that someone who isn't actually gold 5 but rather the middle of Silver 1 will promote. If they play enough games they will get there by random chance. that's because of elo fluctuation right? it's not like the player is silver 1 or gold 5, it'd be more like they are roughly ~1500 elo when the cutoff was 1520 or whatever it used to be. this means that if they pass 1520 then fall back down to 1500 they get placed into g5 because of the cutoff but they are still being matched with and against the same group of players. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
Thats why a lot of the times you will be like wtf how is that guy in this tier? then you check his lolking or whatever and he has 80% winrate with soraka and then under 50% with everything else. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
nvm i'm just salty probably wouldn't solve anything lol | ||
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