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Please use the gameplay patch discussion thread for discussing item builds, champion kits, and other things related to gameplay.

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Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 14:09:48
August 23 2015 20:48 GMT
#301
On August 24 2015 04:28 Kaethis wrote:
going double relic shield (though I'm not 100% whether that's correct) also gives a lot more money to your support then they normally get in lane. It's a bunch of power that people tend to overlook.

Yeah, it's a good item, especially for lane sustain.

I've noticed a lot of people on probuilds.net going Triforce second on Morde. I've been going Rylais. Seems to me to be better so he has some form of CC and more hp.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
August 23 2015 20:54 GMT
#302
Morde uses every stat but mana on the triforce really well due to his need for move speed and hilarious base AD and hybrid scaling. I feel like you have to get it first.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-23 21:11:02
August 23 2015 21:10 GMT
#303
And it also goes well with Sterak's for even more comical scaling and also less dying. They're both pretty ideal for him.
XDG Mata
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
August 23 2015 21:17 GMT
#304
Steraks feels really inefficient to me compared to titanic or DMP. Is Steraks super cheap or something and I am just missing it. I mean at level 18 Steraks caps at 37.5 /75 AD max. Titanic is 50 AD plus the on hit (which is really underrated ) plus the aa reset.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-23 21:23:31
August 23 2015 21:23 GMT
#305
On August 24 2015 06:17 Goumindong wrote:
Steraks feels really inefficient to me compared to titanic or DMP. Is Steraks super cheap or something and I am just missing it. I mean at level 18 Steraks caps at 37.5 /75 AD max. Titanic is 50 AD plus the on hit (which is really underrated ) plus the aa reset.


I'd get all three for the most damage, but Sterak's is nice both because it's cheap (2.5k for 500-800 health depending on how well you use the shield) and increases Tforce procs. I think you could go either first after Tforce, tbh.
XDG Mata
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
August 23 2015 21:26 GMT
#306
On August 24 2015 06:17 Goumindong wrote:
Steraks feels really inefficient to me compared to titanic or DMP. Is Steraks super cheap or something and I am just missing it. I mean at level 18 Steraks caps at 37.5 /75 AD max. Titanic is 50 AD plus the on hit (which is really underrated ) plus the aa reset.

Steraks is base AD so it doesn't perform as well on champions that are bonus AD centric. It's meant for Base and Total AD scalings.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
August 23 2015 22:08 GMT
#307
On August 24 2015 06:26 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 06:17 Goumindong wrote:
Steraks feels really inefficient to me compared to titanic or DMP. Is Steraks super cheap or something and I am just missing it. I mean at level 18 Steraks caps at 37.5 /75 AD max. Titanic is 50 AD plus the on hit (which is really underrated ) plus the aa reset.

Steraks is base AD so it doesn't perform as well on champions that are bonus AD centric. It's meant for Base and Total AD scalings.

I know it's just even on champions who have good base AD and Base AD ratios it's not a lot of AD unless you really get the shield on a good point.

The cost is probably a big advantage.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 24 2015 00:11 GMT
#308
I think Gunblade adds more damage to Morde's Q than Triforce. While the stats on Triforce are great, Gunblade provides sustain and I can't get over the fact it gives mana. (I'd probably build guinsoo's before triforce :p).
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 24 2015 00:16 GMT
#309
You know Lichbane is a viable item on Akali, and people build Triforce on Yasuo as standard now, right?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 00:24:27
August 24 2015 00:20 GMT
#310
On August 24 2015 09:16 Alaric wrote:
You know Lichbane is a viable item on Akali, and people build Triforce on Yasuo as standard now, right?

I know, I have a problem T_T

I wouldn't build any CDR items in URF, and the only mana item I built (with much regret) were the spellblade ones.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
JJMC
Profile Joined January 2015
Portugal83 Posts
August 24 2015 01:11 GMT
#311
Going to go through a change from toplane to midlane. Have no idea what playstyle to change to, I was thinking about permashove/invade enemy jungle, but I have no idea who I should watch to learn a thing or two about that.

And also, 0 idea how to deal with Talon, Fiora; this new patch just seems....... oddly balanced to put it lightly.
Phenomenal
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 24 2015 02:00 GMT
#312
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Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
August 24 2015 11:21 GMT
#313
Might be a stupid question...but...

Does GP gain experience for things he kills with his ult if he's not in experience range?
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 24 2015 11:47 GMT
#314
He has in the past, can't say since the rework because I haven't thought about it.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
OmegaKnetus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany431 Posts
August 24 2015 13:24 GMT
#315
So does anyone have an explaination for Trundle's winrate crashing after the last patch?

I was sure he would be one of the best toplaners after the item changes, as titanic Hydra seems to be made for him and the Steraks Triforce combo also looked good. Together with tanks getting new toys and his ult stealing every defensive stat.

Yet he fell from 52-58% winrate to 47-52%.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
August 24 2015 13:28 GMT
#316
1-5 must be super rough on him is all I can think of.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
August 24 2015 13:57 GMT
#317
Sterak's seems super underwhelming to me as well, the shield decays too quickly for it to make much of an impact at all.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 24 2015 13:57 GMT
#318
vayne is in every single game even more then last patch who dumpsters trundle
I come in for the scraps
Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 14:16:07
August 24 2015 14:04 GMT
#319
Whoops, wrong thread.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 15:11:48
August 24 2015 15:11 GMT
#320
there should be an AD support item, we have AP, Utility, Tanky support items for all type of champions, but we don't have AD item for people who want to troll with pantheon. kha zix, ashe etc supports :-))
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
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