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[Patch 5.16] League of Legends General Discussion - Page 17

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Please use the gameplay patch discussion thread for discussing item builds, champion kits, and other things related to gameplay.

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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 24 2015 15:44 GMT
#321
On August 24 2015 09:11 obesechicken13 wrote:
I think Gunblade adds more damage to Morde's Q than Triforce. While the stats on Triforce are great, Gunblade provides sustain and I can't get over the fact it gives mana. (I'd probably build guinsoo's before triforce :p).


Gunblade's higher stats definitely adds a lot more damage to Q (roughly 170 more damage), but that's not exactly a meaningful comparison. Trinity force has its proc which will occur multiple times over the course of a fight alongside some movement speed, health, and the odd crit. Gunblade has its active/slow, higher stats that translate to more damage on more than just Q, and incredible sustain (Q's bonus damage is considered single target for vamp).

Which is better probably depends more on what the rest of your build is going to look like. If it's mostly tanky and little AP/AD then Trinity Force is probably better. If you're going tanky/AP then Gunblade is probably better. Whether or not Gunblade should be a first item versus sitting on Revolver is another interesting question.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 24 2015 15:55 GMT
#322
Alright I haven't played in a while but I'm pretty interested after watching LCS stuff.

I heard a bit about the recent patches, how are Skarner and Gangplank doing nowadays? I used to play them both quite a bit and am curious about the changes. I saw GP in an LCS game or two, is he good or just niche?
It's your boy Guzma!
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 24 2015 15:58 GMT
#323
On August 25 2015 00:55 Requizen wrote:
Alright I haven't played in a while but I'm pretty interested after watching LCS stuff.

I heard a bit about the recent patches, how are Skarner and Gangplank doing nowadays? I used to play them both quite a bit and am curious about the changes. I saw GP in an LCS game or two, is he good or just niche?


skarner is permaban on this patch, highest winrate hes broken,

gangplank is very strong and being nerfed next patch, he gets banned occasionally
I come in for the scraps
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 24 2015 16:00 GMT
#324
On August 25 2015 00:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 00:55 Requizen wrote:
Alright I haven't played in a while but I'm pretty interested after watching LCS stuff.

I heard a bit about the recent patches, how are Skarner and Gangplank doing nowadays? I used to play them both quite a bit and am curious about the changes. I saw GP in an LCS game or two, is he good or just niche?


skarner is permaban on this patch, highest winrate hes broken,

gangplank is very strong and being nerfed next patch, he gets banned occasionally


Shit I'll have to switch to something more hipster to fuel my smugness.
It's your boy Guzma!
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 19:50:25
August 24 2015 16:01 GMT
#325
GP is slightly overtuned, quite high priority pick. Winrate was low at first but is now higher than pre-rework.

Skarner is currently totally fuckin broken, but is being hotfixed today/tomorrow. Those changes (check the red tracker for full info) will probably leave him in a decent spot, probably still strong.
XDG Mata
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 17:09:30
August 24 2015 17:06 GMT
#326
I see people talking about GP nerfs here and on the boards but I can't find the source, where are you getting this?

TBH even though I main him and I think he's loads of fun his barrels really do too much damage atm, they're just sick.

edit: nm found it, 45% seems pretty reasonable to me.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
August 24 2015 17:43 GMT
#327
I haven't bothered to play a game since 5.16 dropped, what about Skarner makes him completely OP and getting hotfixed/nerfed tomorrow (during the server switch I assume)?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 24 2015 17:46 GMT
#328
On August 25 2015 02:43 Kinie wrote:
I haven't bothered to play a game since 5.16 dropped, what about Skarner makes him completely OP and getting hotfixed/nerfed tomorrow (during the server switch I assume)?

Basically, stats are good.
Freeeeeeedom
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
August 24 2015 17:46 GMT
#329
His shield scales off health on a low cd making him incredibly tanky with new items.

He has a stun on E which is easy to hit with chilling smite. He's now an effective gank champion when ult is on cd.

He clears the jungle very easy.

It all adds up to give him a lot of power.

Oh yeah he still has skarner ult.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 24 2015 17:47 GMT
#330
He's basically this speed demon that's unkillable and does a billion damage. He also has fountains of invincibility around the map
Kaethis
Profile Joined January 2015
Netherlands112 Posts
August 24 2015 19:48 GMT
#331
Skarner currently does it all. If he were ranged he'd be the perfect champion.

Also I hate Kalista.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 24 2015 20:50 GMT
#332
On August 25 2015 04:48 Kaethis wrote:
Skarner currently does it all. If he were ranged he'd be the perfect champion.

Also I hate Kalista.


you'll love next patch. I hate her too but she's getting straight up gutted or at least only playable by very high skilled with those current changes.
I come in for the scraps
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 24 2015 20:53 GMT
#333
On August 25 2015 05:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 04:48 Kaethis wrote:
Skarner currently does it all. If he were ranged he'd be the perfect champion.

Also I hate Kalista.


you'll love next patch. I hate her too but she's getting straight up gutted or at least only playable by very high skilled with those current changes.

Still pro viable?
Freeeeeeedom
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 20:56:35
August 24 2015 20:55 GMT
#334
She should be viable but without being able to bully lane THAT easily she might stop being #1 p/b ad.Good on riot for nerfing the real problematic abilities.The 90% ad shit was a stupid nerf.Her w/r are the problematic abilities.
Kaethis
Profile Joined January 2015
Netherlands112 Posts
August 24 2015 21:00 GMT
#335
while the R and W are stupid the real problem with her will always be that passive. She's essentially immune to both skillshots and melee champs without an instant gapcloser (look at my icon), at least, without being CC'd or flashed on. She gets ahead a centimetre and you're completely helpless against her.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 24 2015 21:04 GMT
#336
She also doesn't do any damage.If she stops getting so fed in lane you will realize that.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 24 2015 21:08 GMT
#337
Why would she? With that mobility the balance point would be like 70% ezreal for pro play.
Freeeeeeedom
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 24 2015 21:42 GMT
#338
I kind of wish Kalista was even more polarizing,as in had lower range but was even more of a pest against champions she can kite endlessly. I guess a more defensive version of Quinn?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 24 2015 22:25 GMT
#339
On August 25 2015 06:42 Shikyo wrote:
I kind of wish Kalista was even more polarizing,as in had lower range but was even more of a pest against champions she can kite endlessly. I guess a more defensive version of Quinn?

Instead I think she went the opposite way with her kiting getting worse. There were nerfs to how far she could jump back and whether she could jump when throwing Q.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14069 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 23:09:55
August 24 2015 23:09 GMT
#340
been far too long from when I played jax and he never was bad anyway. That mana buff looks pretty good for early game on a 3 pot flask start.

Edit:Jax
Counter Strike (E) mana cost reduced to 50/60/70/80/90 from 70/75/80/85/90
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