EPT[Patch 5.14] Bilgewater General Discussion - Page 4
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JeosAdn
Costa Rica432 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On July 22 2015 10:20 Alaric wrote: Ekko's E is a blink, so as long as you can cross over half of a terrain element you'll get placed on the other side. Dashes don't work that way because if their range is too short to cross the whole wall you'll simply faceplant into it, so you can't use that "over half" rule with them, see: Graves, Shen, etc. Riven's an exception but that's because Riot pampers her for whatever the heck reason they deem fit, something about "expressing skill". no, he can cross the fat wolf wall with only the dash part, it just very a very generous dash | ||
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Gahlo
United States35118 Posts
On July 22 2015 10:20 Alaric wrote: Ekko's E is a blink, so as long as you can cross over half of a terrain element you'll get placed on the other side. Dashes don't work that way because if their range is too short to cross the whole wall you'll simply faceplant into it, so you can't use that "over half" rule with them, see: Graves, Shen, etc. Riven's an exception but that's because Riot pampers her for whatever the heck reason they deem fit, something about "expressing skill". And Nidalee's isn't, has a range of 375, and still hops walls. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On July 22 2015 10:11 GolemMadness wrote: So I guess time to just play Soraka, get an early zeke's, and give my two item ADC permanent 100% crit chance in team fights? Like, why would they think that this item is a good idea? I'm pretty sure it increases your linked targets existing crit chance by 50%...so like if they have 50% crit it boosts it to 75% total. If they have 20% they get 30% total. If they have 0% they get nothing. Thats what I heard. | ||
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
On July 22 2015 10:04 phyvo wrote: Having just played two games of Fiora on the PBE: Her Q can be used to farm. It also procs hydra. It can also be used to escape over thin walls, though I haven't managed to, say, jump the wall to wraiths that tricky Nidalees can use. It prioritizes champions and then stuff in kill range. I'm not sure if W stops *all* damage, but it stops just about everything. Doesn't help much vs DoT (ignite) or DoT-like damage (laser turrets) though. W can also act as AoE farm to a small extent if you level it but I think that's a bad idea. Her R *is* weird. So far I've had a much easier time proccing it by killing things than by hitting all 4 sides because when people run away her minigame gets very difficult. The healing is very powerful even if it's thematically confusing. Also, her passive "weak points" do stay in place and do not rotate with enemy champion movement. edit: guess I was beaten to the punch. Oh, you're supposed to attack different sides of the hit box to proc her passive? That doesn't seem very likely to happen. Does the ult AOE follow the enemy while they move? | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On July 22 2015 10:04 phyvo wrote: Having just played two games of Fiora on the PBE: Her Q can be used to farm. It also procs hydra. It can also be used to escape over thin walls, though I haven't managed to, say, jump the wall to wraiths that tricky Nidalees can use. It prioritizes champions and then stuff in kill range. I'm not sure if W stops *all* damage, but it stops just about everything. Doesn't help much vs DoT (ignite) or DoT-like damage (laser turrets) though. W can also act as AoE farm to a small extent if you level it but I think that's a bad idea. Her R *is* weird. So far I've had a much easier time proccing it by killing things than by hitting all 4 sides because when people run away her minigame gets very difficult. The healing is very powerful even if it's thematically confusing. Also, her passive "weak points" do stay in place and do not rotate with enemy champion movement. edit: guess I was beaten to the punch. So it says her W prioritizes weak points...does that mean if they have a weak point on their side away from you, and you Q onto them, it teleports you behind them to hit it? On July 22 2015 10:31 Sonnington wrote: Oh, you're supposed to attack different sides of the hit box to proc her passive? That doesn't seem very likely to happen. Does the ult AOE follow the enemy while they move? The heal does not, the 4 parts and speed zone do. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
I don't see this lasting for long. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35118 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
for once in my life i really like the rw cant say im a hater | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On July 22 2015 10:30 sob3k wrote: I'm pretty sure it increases your linked targets existing crit chance by 50%...so like if they have 50% crit it boosts it to 75% total. If they have 20% they get 30% total. If they have 0% they get nothing. Thats what I heard. Heard from whom? It just says that it gives 50% crit chance. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
While I like the swamp feel as a New Orleanian, this is straight stupid. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
On July 22 2015 12:16 GolemMadness wrote: Heard from whom? It just says that it gives 50% crit chance. He's wrong. They specifically stated new Zeke's gives 50% additive crit chance. http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/lEXEsgWL-514-zekes-herald-update-coming-to-pbe?comment=00140000 | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
That cottontail Fizz skin, LOL. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
He is streaming right now but a whole bunch of adware just popped up and playing ad messages on the background including "Your computer is infected by a virus!" | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
Fiora splash is horrible. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Sobek talked about her numbers, but they scale with her level, so a level 18 Fiora with 150 bonus AD (not unrealistic with 2 of Hydra/Triforce/BC/IE and masteries/runes) would deal 9.75% maxHP true damage per vital, up to 39% if she manages to trigger all 4 on her ult-tank busting at its finest. Each strike heals her for 122 HP and her ult would heal for 230/s for 5 seconds. At level 13 with 100 bonus AD (she'd have more, mind you), it's 7% per vital, up to 28% "at once" with her ult and 92 HP per hit + 170 HP/s for 5s. With no bonus AD whatsoever it's still only 3% -> 12% so she's gonna need to build some AD to get the benefits of vitals (and her ult's healing, she still gets 30~60% bonus MS whenever she's in the zone so if she triggers it and is dangerous enough you really don't want to stick around or lob skillshots at her till you lure her out), but the current scaling is really high (and the potential to one-shot a squishy with that kind of AD with her full ult is there). These are numbers so they can be tuned, but her AD ratio on the true damage scales very aggressively at the later levels, and the heal is actually pretty strong (consider that based on the video, once she hits a vital she gets a new one 2-3s later; it's more important in the midgame since her passive's heal isn't backloaded in levels and unless your comp runs a burst mage (not popular atm, save for support Annie-stuff) people will live longer, letting you trigger it more often in a fight). With such numbers/potential, though, I'd see her as similar to Garen in how she can handle fights and her targets, with less tankiness but more damage overall (especially dps, and less reliance on her ult) and more team utility. That is, she can help kill tanks really fast and run at squishies to scare them/burst them down if they wander too close, and she's very very resilient to damage if she gets her way, but she has to mind her positioning between the frontline and the backline. 1v5 she gets killed rather than kited though. | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2601 Posts
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