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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 01 2015 11:00 GMT
#701
On August 01 2015 17:58 justiceknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2015 17:01 JonnyLaw wrote:
The third grave/tf quest seems worst. Win two brawler games then play four more after those wins? Six minimum ick.


u havent seen TF's quest...

No, TF is by far less of a hassle. Even getting a few really crappy minion clearing champions it too me 4, maybe 5 ARAMs to qualify that critera. At least you didn't have to win the games.
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
August 01 2015 11:57 GMT
#702
winning 6 crap market mode is really painful, regular insufferable pubs but usually even longer t_TT-tT_T_T_T-tT_T
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 01 2015 12:00 GMT
#703
Just don't play? I thought the rewards were just some icons.
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
August 01 2015 12:01 GMT
#704
but..free...can't resist :'(
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-01 19:42:52
August 01 2015 12:35 GMT
#705
So there's a bug with devourer.
Whenever you use a consumable, eg. a ward or a potion, devourer stops working. The dog dies, the on hit damage isn't applied, you don't gain any stacks, and you lose the aspd. This lasts for about 4-8 seconds. I think it varies.
This doesn't seem to affect trinket wards or sated devourer.
I'm unsure about flask's interaction.

But basically if you have devourer, don't use potions while fighting camps. It'll slow down your clear speed and cause you do take more damage in the long run. Instead, use potions in between camps, and be careful using potions near dragon/baron. Using a potion and smiting dragon will result in 0 stacks.


There's been a lot of weird bugs. Back when Sion had the highest win rate in the jungle, higher than Sejuani at her prime, I couldn't really understand why. Then they gave Sion a few nerfs and fixed the scaling on his ult to work on his opponent's AD instead of his. People were building Sion full tank so he basically lost hundreds of damage on his ult. I don't try to explain winrates anymore.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 01 2015 13:36 GMT
#706
Riot intends to drop the bomb in the fighter game.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/VoQZ4NHy-meddler-will-the-darius-and-garen-rework-come-out-as-the-same-patch-as-skarner-one-next-week?comment=0001
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 01 2015 13:40 GMT
#707
On August 01 2015 22:36 Gahlo wrote:
Riot intends to drop the bomb in the fighter game.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/VoQZ4NHy-meddler-will-the-darius-and-garen-rework-come-out-as-the-same-patch-as-skarner-one-next-week?comment=0001

Also they're doing a rework for Skarner, Darius, Garen, and Morde really soon (expected patch 5.16?). I'm gonna spam some Morde games before they do.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
August 01 2015 13:46 GMT
#708
I understand Darius and Morde, but Skarner was just changed relatively recenly and Garen is fine as is.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 01 2015 13:47 GMT
#709
On August 01 2015 22:46 Prog wrote:
I understand Darius and Morde, but Skarner was just changed relatively recenly and Garen is fine as is.

well ever since riot lost the ability to just make new champs they decided to include their new ideas in old champs
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 01 2015 14:04 GMT
#710
On August 01 2015 22:40 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2015 22:36 Gahlo wrote:
Riot intends to drop the bomb in the fighter game.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/VoQZ4NHy-meddler-will-the-darius-and-garen-rework-come-out-as-the-same-patch-as-skarner-one-next-week?comment=0001

Also they're doing a rework for Skarner, Darius, Garen, and Morde really soon (expected patch 5.16?). I'm gonna spam some Morde games before they do.

Well, yeah. I consider all of them fighters, which is really just Riot stupid talk for bruiser to me.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 01 2015 14:05 GMT
#711
Most importantly, it's implied to hit in August or early September... When are worlds again?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 01 2015 14:06 GMT
#712
On August 01 2015 22:46 Prog wrote:
I understand Darius and Morde, but Skarner was just changed relatively recenly and Garen is fine as is.


It's coz they cocked up the Skarner rework.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-01 14:11:35
August 01 2015 14:08 GMT
#713
I dunno wtf they're doing with Skarner. Hopefully just minor stuff. Garen they said is just one new mechanic and some improvements. Morde and Darius are the larger ones. Curious about what they'll do.

I like that they're more aggressively putting in small gameplay changes. Just as long as they're more useful than MF's was.

It won't matter for worlds. I doubt any of them will be big enough to suddenly make the 'guys running at you' niche all that useful in conjunction with the itemization changes.

On August 01 2015 23:04 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2015 22:40 obesechicken13 wrote:
On August 01 2015 22:36 Gahlo wrote:
Riot intends to drop the bomb in the fighter game.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/VoQZ4NHy-meddler-will-the-darius-and-garen-rework-come-out-as-the-same-patch-as-skarner-one-next-week?comment=0001

Also they're doing a rework for Skarner, Darius, Garen, and Morde really soon (expected patch 5.16?). I'm gonna spam some Morde games before they do.

Well, yeah. I consider all of them fighters, which is really just Riot stupid talk for bruiser to me.


That's a really pedantic distinction....
XDG Mata
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 01 2015 14:19 GMT
#714
On August 01 2015 23:05 Alaric wrote:
Most importantly, it's implied to hit in August or early September... When are worlds again?

5.16's going to be a pretty big patch with multiple reworks and some item changes. After that though we'll be shifting focus to balance refinements, with the aim of a stable patch for worlds (so no major disruption expected in 5.17 or 5.18, given Worlds will probably be played on one of those two patches).

We need some more jax/orianna/lee buffs or nerfs to their competition to bring it back for worlds.Corki already is back to top tier :D
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
August 01 2015 14:20 GMT
#715
They patch too fast this season.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 01 2015 14:22 GMT
#716
It's more about "will pros only have one month to figure the patch out before worlds?" that I'm worried about.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 01 2015 14:29 GMT
#717
On August 01 2015 23:08 Caiada wrote:
I dunno wtf they're doing with Skarner. Hopefully just minor stuff. Garen they said is just one new mechanic and some improvements. Morde and Darius are the larger ones. Curious about what they'll do.

I like that they're more aggressively putting in small gameplay changes. Just as long as they're more useful than MF's was.

It won't matter for worlds. I doubt any of them will be big enough to suddenly make the 'guys running at you' niche all that useful in conjunction with the itemization changes.

Show nested quote +
On August 01 2015 23:04 Gahlo wrote:
On August 01 2015 22:40 obesechicken13 wrote:
On August 01 2015 22:36 Gahlo wrote:
Riot intends to drop the bomb in the fighter game.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/VoQZ4NHy-meddler-will-the-darius-and-garen-rework-come-out-as-the-same-patch-as-skarner-one-next-week?comment=0001

Also they're doing a rework for Skarner, Darius, Garen, and Morde really soon (expected patch 5.16?). I'm gonna spam some Morde games before they do.

Well, yeah. I consider all of them fighters, which is really just Riot stupid talk for bruiser to me.


That's a really pedantic distinction....

Not really. Look at the fighters that aren't overly concerned about these changes. Most of them are either melee carry types(Fiora, Tryndamere) or "assassins"(Riven, Yasuo). 3 of the 4 champions set to be worked on are Fighter/Tanks, the fourth being being a Fighter/Mage. The Fighter tag has enough variety in it that it's a silly distinction to make because nothing strictly spans that gap.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
August 01 2015 14:51 GMT
#718
On August 01 2015 23:20 Ansibled wrote:
They patch too fast this season.

really? these are the slowest patch cycles i've seen yet.
they used to be biweekly
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
August 01 2015 14:55 GMT
#719
They're still biweekly. Been that way since S4.
XDG Mata
Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
August 01 2015 14:58 GMT
#720
So I played a game of black market. I didn't really understand what was going on or what items were good. I don't really feel like figuring out all this shit, but I do kinda want to play it. Does anyone have a tutorial or can TLDR me? Which one's the best brawler, which are the good new items, etc.
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