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Brokenshard thinks Sivir fell off. Iunno why the fuck I'd listen to him.
Blunt example, but honestly, I have absolutely zero faith in Western analytical staff outside of Deilor.
On August 01 2015 01:06 crate wrote:Viktor stats in LCK suggest he's fine to good. SKT and KOO pick Viktor a ton, and are 14-1 (compared to 52-17 overall). The other four good teams pick Viktor quite a bit and are 16-15 (compared to 86-62 overall). The bottom four teams pick Viktor quite a bit, and are a combined 5-25 with Viktor (compared to 42-100 overall). So for the top 6 teams Viktor is fine (even if you exclude SKT and KOO he's not bad), for the bottom 4 he's actually worse than their performance with other mids. Note that I'm going by the statistics displayed on the individual player pages on lol.esportspedia; these numbers seem to disagree with the Viktor stats on the Statistics page for the LCK summer split as a whole (which is partly why Viktor looks so bad if you look there). I'm too lazy to check for sure which is correct (I'm not looking through 175 total games), but I think the player pages are right and the overall statistics page is wrong. The player pages have Viktor at 35-41, not 25-48. Also it doesn't seem to include last night's games at least, but that should be ok; arbitrary endpoints are arbitrary anyway. edit: Also Viktor has only lost one more game than he's won in LPL, by the same method. 31-32 overall. edit2: This site http://www.gamesoflegends.com/tournament/stats.php?id=LPL Summer 2015 agrees with the player page numbers from lol.esportspedia, so I think the overall statistics pages are just wrong for Viktor, somehow. ~50% winrate in both LPL and LCK, not the silly 30% numbers that lol.esportspedia tries to claim. Faulty data!
oracleselixir.com is pretty much the premiere statistics site right now and has him at 39% excluding LPL.
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Excluding LPL is bad, and oracleselixir doesn't let me do a lot of things that I want (it seems good if all you want is aggregate data across all leagues, but for a few reasons I would suggest that that is not ideal). This gamesoflegends site seems pretty good, assuming its data is good (which as far as I can tell it is).
Viktor's stats seem about what I would expect if you think he's strong in LPL/LCK, for a few reasons.
1) In NA, the bad teams picked Viktor a lot more than the good teams. TL played Viktor twice; CLG, GV, and TiP didn't play Viktor at all; Dig played Viktor once; and TSM three times. So, the non-playoff teams (and NA's non-playoff teams had really bad records this split) played Viktor a lot more. You can argue about whether Viktor caused the losses also, of course (perhaps the bad teams were bad because they played Viktor), but given that he's good in the two best leagues in the world (and also in LMS based on the stats I could find) I would suggest that it's not a problem with the champion being bad per se. It does support Viktor being bad in LCS, though.
(The EU picks are less skewed in this fashion; I would suggest that the "true" NA winrate of Viktor is similar to the "true" EU winrate for Viktor, though figuring out how to properly regress LoL winrates is something I do not want to spend time on right now.)
2) This is admittedly not based on data I have at hand (unfortunately it's really obnoxious to try to gather this data, since afaik you'd have to do it manually, and I'm pretty sure no one has tracked this) but anecdotally it seems that LPL and LCK mids roam around the map more often earlier in the game than LCS mids, and that's where a lot of Viktor's power comes from.
If you're just trying to suggest that Viktor is bad in the LCS, I'd believe that and agree; I don't think the teams in LCS leverage his strengths very well in general (and the teams agree that he's not great in LCS; he's rarely banned and not highly contested). But I think he's a pretty strong pick if you can do so. The fact that he's at near 50% winrate and highly contested in both LPL and LCK suggests that he's not weak in LCK and LPL.
edit: also I should probably explicitly state that I assume that LPL and LCK are overall stronger than either EU or NA LCS.
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omfg the act3 black market TF route, i seriously need to get 15 lv3 minion? thats like 15 games zzzzz
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What exactly do you get for all this nonsense you're doing?
Because if it's anything less than a free champion/skin I don't know what compels you to such madness.
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On August 01 2015 02:58 justiceknight wrote:
omfg the act3 black market TF route, i seriously need to get 15 lv3 minion? thats like 15 games zzzzz
Good thing it's the worst TF summoner icon out of the event. Playing 4 ARAM games was hard enough.
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The icons are alright. GP's is lame as fuck though. I'm holding out hope for something decent in the wrapup once the shenanigans are over.
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On August 01 2015 01:22 Sufficiency wrote:
Wickd is saying GP is enabled for CS but he is currently disabled for Live, lol.
Seriously one of the strangest decisions Riot have made.
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On August 01 2015 03:16 Ansibled wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2015 01:22 Sufficiency wrote:
Wickd is saying GP is enabled for CS but he is currently disabled for Live, lol. Seriously one of the strangest decisions Riot have made.
There's already a very apt meme in response to this decision.
And yeah, it's by far the dumbest thing Riot's done this year.
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On August 01 2015 03:16 Ansibled wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2015 01:22 Sufficiency wrote:
Wickd is saying GP is enabled for CS but he is currently disabled for Live, lol. Seriously one of the strangest decisions Riot have made.
Whoa there, there have been a LOT of strange decisions over the years. Don't know if this ranks in top 5.
Anyway I'm looking at top/support laners to buy as I think I have enough mid/adc/jgl that work alright in ranked. Top so far has been Shen ,Yorick(I know lol) or Irelia and Support I just Janna or Annie if Janna is gone.
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On August 01 2015 03:22 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2015 03:16 Ansibled wrote:On August 01 2015 01:22 Sufficiency wrote:
Wickd is saying GP is enabled for CS but he is currently disabled for Live, lol. Seriously one of the strangest decisions Riot have made. Whoa there, there have been a LOT of strange decisions over the years. Don't know if this ranks in top 5. Anyway I'm looking at top/support laners to buy as I think I have enough mid/adc/jgl that work alright in ranked. Top so far has been Shen ,Yorick(I know lol) or Irelia and Support I just Janna or Annie if Janna is gone.
what is your ping?
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180-220 on a good day. So I don't really play twitchy stuff. Think most "twitchy" i played was Zed back in S2(or S3?) and now Ahri but she's not really twitchy.
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Damn that makes it hard to say xD.I guess for top vlad/maokai/naut should be decent and for supp soraka/braum/naut/shen.
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Play morg. Even if you don't black shield on reaction you can still use it as a threat or pre-emptively.
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I forgot I owned morg! I shall add her to the list. Vlad is someone I've always been keen on but never know if he's good enough to warrant spending that juicy IP. Yorick used to be my S2 blind pick if I was scared, that fucker still seems to shit on noobs lol.
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Don't think morg is good with 200 ping on supp but can work in top/mid.Especially now with how the coin start with not getting w at all is so popular(and much better honestly) she just sucks in lane too much.Black shield when not used on reaction is kind of a shitty ability honestly.Best bet would be naut cuz he takes 0 skill and his q is very easy to land.
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Well for top laners there's always Swain as an option as demonstrated by Quas. Naut for both top and support is also a decent option.
Oh right for top there's also maokai, can't go wrong with maokai top
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On August 01 2015 03:22 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2015 03:16 Ansibled wrote:On August 01 2015 01:22 Sufficiency wrote:
Wickd is saying GP is enabled for CS but he is currently disabled for Live, lol. Seriously one of the strangest decisions Riot have made. Whoa there, there have been a LOT of strange decisions over the years. Don't know if this ranks in top 5. Anyway I'm looking at top/support laners to buy as I think I have enough mid/adc/jgl that work alright in ranked. Top so far has been Shen ,Yorick(I know lol) or Irelia and Support I just Janna or Annie if Janna is gone.
If you dont main support just play Blitz. If you want to be a bit more spicy you can buy Lulu since she can go both top or support - just remember you need to spam /laugh with her.
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Probably because "Buy this skin to play this champ!" is a bad look.
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EPT
