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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
July 23 2015 18:54 GMT
#241
we don't need addons, we just need to drag and drop the windows in appropriate places.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 19:01:41
July 23 2015 18:56 GMT
#242
or go back to old superior HUD ...
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 23 2015 19:07 GMT
#243
If it aint broke, don't fix it

Riot pls
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 23 2015 19:13 GMT
#244
On July 24 2015 03:49 Caiada wrote:
It's not about cheating. Addons fundamentally altered the way they had to design at the highest levels of play.

Only slightly compared to Blizzard's own decisions. First by reducing raid size and giving both factions Shamans/Paladins; and then class homogenization, heroic/normal dichotomy, and reducing the effects of gear checks is what makes it so much harder to Blizzard to challenge top tier (and even mid-high tier) raiders now. All the OP addons were available during Naxx, AQ 40, and Vashj/Kael and those are the most "difficult" encounters they ever released.

On July 24 2015 03:54 Frolossus wrote:
we don't need addons, we just need to drag and drop the windows in appropriate places.

I don't trust LoL's code with addons, otherwise I would like them.
Freeeeeeedom
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 23 2015 19:22 GMT
#245
I am just wondering where I can obtain supervision like their developers if they dont think customizing size is important. i have perfect 20/20 vision and I cant see shit. I feel bad for people with actual problems.
I come in for the scraps
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
July 23 2015 19:46 GMT
#246
On July 24 2015 04:13 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 03:49 Caiada wrote:
It's not about cheating. Addons fundamentally altered the way they had to design at the highest levels of play.

Only slightly compared to Blizzard's own decisions. First by reducing raid size and giving both factions Shamans/Paladins; and then class homogenization, heroic/normal dichotomy, and reducing the effects of gear checks is what makes it so much harder to Blizzard to challenge top tier (and even mid-high tier) raiders now. All the OP addons were available during Naxx, AQ 40, and Vashj/Kael and those are the most "difficult" encounters they ever released.

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2015 03:54 Frolossus wrote:
we don't need addons, we just need to drag and drop the windows in appropriate places.

I don't trust LoL's code with addons, otherwise I would like them.


Not balance or difficulty, I'm talking about literally the core of how they designed encounters and PvP. Shit like what mechanics they included, the complexity of those mechanics, and timing. Quantity and diversity. Now, the shift to increasingly complicated mechanics was also spurred heavily by people just being much much better at the game, but the UI *definitely* added to it. It's not bad or good, but it happened and made addons mostly mandatory.

Difficulty in that game was mostly numbers and margin for error. Not what I'm on about at all.
XDG Mata
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 23 2015 20:11 GMT
#247
On July 24 2015 04:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
I am just wondering where I can obtain supervision like their developers if they dont think customizing size is important. i have perfect 20/20 vision and I cant see shit. I feel bad for people with actual problems.

Amen.... my right eye has significantly higher power than my left eye and stacking all that HUD features on the bottom right just kills league for me
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 20:21:51
July 23 2015 20:19 GMT
#248
Teemo
Move Quick (W) []
Noxious Trap (R) [ now says "toss a trap" instead of "place a trap". has new text reading "If a thrown trap lands on another trap, it will bounce up to X Teemos further before planting.". Will have to look at this in-game... ]



http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/07/723-pbe-update.html

What is this man...
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 23 2015 20:28 GMT
#249
Sounds like Teemo Shrooms are using Gnar-tech to become even more annoying.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
July 23 2015 20:31 GMT
#250
On July 24 2015 05:28 Seuss wrote:
Sounds like Teemo Shrooms are using Gnar-tech to become even more annoying.



l o l.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
July 23 2015 20:49 GMT
#251
2015: The Year Cancer Became Competitively Viable.

I don't know whether I'd loathe or love Teemo in pro play.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
July 23 2015 20:58 GMT
#252
Finally my flash shroom initiation gets a buff.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
July 23 2015 21:06 GMT
#253
I don't care what they do with him as long as they never buff shroom damage.
XDG Mata
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 23 2015 21:18 GMT
#254
Random teemo buffs cus why not?
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 21:30:18
July 23 2015 21:23 GMT
#255
On July 24 2015 05:49 AsmodeusXI wrote:
2015: The Year Cancer Became Competitively Viable.

I don't know whether I'd loathe or love Teemo in pro play.

there are so many cancer champions viable already i dont think it makes any difference if we get one more
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 23 2015 21:50 GMT
#256
On July 24 2015 04:13 cLutZ wrote:All the OP addons were available during Naxx, AQ 40, and Vashj/Kael and those are the most "difficult" encounters they ever released.


Yogg 0 lights gets my vote.
Carrilord has arrived.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 23:00:24
July 23 2015 22:51 GMT
#257
new HUD is okay i guess. not sure yet only used it a few times. a little confusing but hopefully I'll be able to figure it out

also I don't like Fiora's new splash art. Her face in particular. just looks too stuck up/arragant/ etc.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-24 00:01:02
July 24 2015 00:00 GMT
#258
Some more things about the GP rework:

If you've got Trifroce/Shiv, a barrel instantly clears the wave. This is a lot less setup for getting a full wave of Q gold, and makes getting Q gold much easier pre-Shiv. You also get a small but significant gold lead after Sheen, and especially after Triforce. This makes Hydra less valuable, as it's probably overkill on the waveclear. I'd go one of Shiv/Hydra, leaning towards Shiv because of the movespeed and additional ranged burst.

The passive's AD scaling is *really* strong, especially with barrel resets in a duel and while splitpushing. Two procs and two triforce procs is a lot of tower pushing ability. Even a small opportunity gets you most of a Tier 2.

Barrels are shit pre-7. Your laning phase until then is super meh, and the barrel tickdowns are really his most significant level powerspikes. He scales really well with levels in general.

For item builds, he seems pretty versatile. Tforce is core. For damage, so is Shiv, most likely. I don't think he's got enough guaranteed utility or base damage to warrant going the Irelia build or full tank, but something Gnar-style would probably work. Tforce->Mallet and/or Black Cleaver->Maw and/or Thornmail. I think Black Cleaver's great on him. CDR, health, and AD is a dream setup for GP now. I probably underrated the pen on LW before, but think Black Cleaver outclasses it on him (and most melees) anyway. If you'll be going any more than two damage items, I think IE is basically mandatory. The in-fight burst from a crit barrel is his number one teamfight use if you're heavy on damage, and it can quickly turn a fight with the slow. Something like Tforce->Shiv->IE/BT->Defensive item. Maybe skip BT for a second defensive item or Cleaver in burst scenarios.

He's a surprisingly safe pick. Q/E waveclear is decent under tower, and if you can push out, great. I'd never pick him into an assassin though. Zed/Leb/Talon/Yasuo will shit on him. Tanks/other bruisers are probably the ideal. Ranged matchups are iffy.
XDG Mata
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
July 24 2015 00:04 GMT
#259
http://ask.fm/RiotGhostcrawler/answer/131704386187

???
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-24 00:05:27
July 24 2015 00:05 GMT
#260
I think a big reason they're not allowing more customization is due to a shared experience element partially tied to streaming.

I have a question, the old score screen used to light up the portraits of enemy players that were out of the FOW. The new one doesn't do that? Or is it just really hard to see? I was pushing mid and I hit tab, but I couldn't tell if the 3-4 man gank bot still had all 3-4 pushing bot together.
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