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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 21 2015 08:39 cLutZ wrote: I think when compared to Jax/Irelia and other splitpushing tops, you are describing an OP champion executing a Riot-disfavored strategy (splitpushing). Irelia and Jax can split, sure, but they also struggle with laneswaps. GP has a ranged Q that allows him to handle laneswaps better. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On July 21 2015 09:35 VayneAuthority wrote: i mean i dont know how fed he was but just the last clip shows promise. One barrel basically destroyed their team i think? It does the same damage as Parrley, with some kind of bonus armour pen. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 21 2015 09:29 Sufficiency wrote: Irelia and Jax can split, sure, but they also struggle with laneswaps. GP has a ranged Q that allows him to handle laneswaps better. Exactly...you are describing an OP champion (for competitive). There are no tops that handle laneswaps and can splitpush. The closest would be Heacarim, whos splitpushing is really not that great, his laneswap resistance is from good jungling, and he is susceptible to both ganks and lane bullies. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 21 2015 10:03 cLutZ wrote: Exactly...you are describing an OP champion (for competitive). There are no tops that handle laneswaps and can splitpush. The closest would be Heacarim, whos splitpushing is really not that great, his laneswap resistance is from good jungling, and he is susceptible to both ganks and lane bullies. I honestly do not know where you are getting at but stop analyzing my posts with a microscope. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On July 21 2015 10:03 cLutZ wrote: Exactly...you are describing an OP champion (for competitive). There are no tops that handle laneswaps and can splitpush. The closest would be Heacarim, whos splitpushing is really not that great, his laneswap resistance is from good jungling, and he is susceptible to both ganks and lane bullies. yorick and olaf come to mind immediately and used to be picked for that exact reason | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On July 21 2015 09:57 TheHumanSensation wrote: It does the same damage as Parrley, with some kind of bonus armour pen. Including whether or not the attack crits. Which can be a lot of damage. I wonder if it includes sheen damage too. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 21 2015 10:07 Frolossus wrote: yorick and olaf come to mind immediately and used to be picked for that exact reason Well, Yorick is not that good right now, and I think Olaf is stronger as a jungler. Don't forget GP also has a global ult which seems to do quite a bit of damage. It's not as good as Shen ult, but it IS a global ult so he can make an impact instantly regardless of whether or not he has TP. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On July 21 2015 10:13 Goumindong wrote: Including whether or not the attack crits. Which can be a lot of damage. I wonder if it includes sheen damage too. The answer is very yes. Basically, whatever physical damage your attack does, the barrels explode for that damage + the 60% armor ignore + the barrel extra damage vs champions. As a result Triforce is easily the best first item for damage that you can get. Your EV for barrel damage is a little higher than IE while being far more consistent and you get all of TF's other benefits which feel really good on GP. I find that after sheen/triforce farming becomes really easy and you make tons of bank. TF's insane clearing power does falls off later if you build tank but if you do go at least one more big AD item your clear is never too bad. Hydra lets you save barrels for fights tho. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 21 2015 10:07 Frolossus wrote: yorick and olaf come to mind immediately and used to be picked for that exact reason *Were nerfed for that exact reason. | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
On July 21 2015 09:57 TheHumanSensation wrote: It does the same damage as Parrley, with some kind of bonus armour pen. Parley damage, plus 200 base and penetrates 60% armor. Includes crits and Tforce, possibly Hydra damage? His lategame teamfight presence will be insane. Seems his only weakness will be an early reliance on getting farm for ult upgrades. On July 21 2015 10:05 Sufficiency wrote: I honestly do not know where you are getting at but stop analyzing my posts with a microscope. It's operating under the presumption that Riot wants splitpushing to be countered early by lane swaps, and that a champion avoiding that is somehow instantly OP by design, for some nonsensical and very broad reason. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
why would it be frustrating to play with you don't have to do anything? he literally just tanks up twice his hp and just pops it for a shield like what? | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On July 21 2015 11:42 cLutZ wrote: Yup, I'm the insane one for noticing how they made T2 and T3 turrets nearly impossible to splitpush against an equal farm opponent. They've actively made it 'easier' to splitpush in recent times though. | ||
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