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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 22 2015 22:32 GMT
#41
Dyrus has been playing very well, he might not lane like zionspartan or gamsu but he's been very solid and more aware of his limits in lane than before but his teamfighting and TP usage has been top notch. TSM has been giving him more to work with but he's probably the second best performer right now on TSM tbh.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 22 2015 22:33 GMT
#42
On June 23 2015 07:22 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 07:18 TitusVI wrote:
And they can still upgrade toplane.


last couple games I saw of dyrus he looked like one of the best NA top lanes

I don't know how you can say this when we just saw Gamsu shit stomp the living shit out of scrubs this past weekend.
liftlift > tsm
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
June 22 2015 22:37 GMT
#43
Replacing Santorin should be priority.

He is doing three man gank mid for two times then he is off to his jungle. You cant see him till TSM decides to take dragon.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 22 2015 22:37 GMT
#44
On June 23 2015 07:33 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 07:22 travis wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:18 TitusVI wrote:
And they can still upgrade toplane.


last couple games I saw of dyrus he looked like one of the best NA top lanes

I don't know how you can say this when we just saw Gamsu shit stomp the living shit out of scrubs this past weekend.


Just because Gamsu looks amazing doesn't mean Dyrus doesn't look like one of the best top laners. Impact didn't look great, Quas looked bad, Hauntzer was pretty good, Flarez is too inconsistent, Cali is throwlord, Zion is doing well but his TPs or lack of feel a bit odd and Balls is bad. So yea Dyrus is looking like top 2/3 top laner in NA atm.
HyperST
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
Canada279 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-22 22:38:19
June 22 2015 22:38 GMT
#45
On June 23 2015 07:33 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 07:22 travis wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:18 TitusVI wrote:
And they can still upgrade toplane.


last couple games I saw of dyrus he looked like one of the best NA top lanes

I don't know how you can say this when we just saw Gamsu shit stomp the living shit out of scrubs this past weekend.

Twitter: @HyperST | @Esportsheaven
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
June 22 2015 22:40 GMT
#46
On June 23 2015 07:37 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 07:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:22 travis wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:18 TitusVI wrote:
And they can still upgrade toplane.


last couple games I saw of dyrus he looked like one of the best NA top lanes

I don't know how you can say this when we just saw Gamsu shit stomp the living shit out of scrubs this past weekend.


Just because Gamsu looks amazing doesn't mean Dyrus doesn't look like one of the best top laners. Impact didn't look great, Quas looked bad, Hauntzer was pretty good, Flarez is too inconsistent, Cali is throwlord, Zion is doing well but his TPs or lack of feel a bit odd and Balls is bad. So yea Dyrus is looking like top 2/3 top laner in NA atm.

Well you just explained it yourself. Everyone is so bad in NA that Dyrus looking good.

He still has no chance against Marin/Koro/Duke/Huni/Acorn and list go on...
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-22 22:44:45
June 22 2015 22:44 GMT
#47
On June 23 2015 07:38 HyperST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 07:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:22 travis wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:18 TitusVI wrote:
And they can still upgrade toplane.


last couple games I saw of dyrus he looked like one of the best NA top lanes

I don't know how you can say this when we just saw Gamsu shit stomp the living shit out of scrubs this past weekend.


dyrus can't even win lane against scrubs, your point?
also one of those scrubs was quas.
liftlift > tsm
YellowOps
Profile Joined June 2015
Canada2 Posts
June 22 2015 22:48 GMT
#48
I'm surprised at the amount of hate Regi is getting though. Obviously as a TSM fan myself, it would sadden me to see WT leave but I think Regi's decision to tryout Keith was a win-win situation, as it'd either motivate WT to improve or bring in a fresh young player.
topkek
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
June 22 2015 22:56 GMT
#49
Yeah TSM fans hating on Regi for this seems silly. I don't like the guy but he's never shied away from the tough call and it's probably the definitive factor that has kept TSM on top so consistently.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
HyperST
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
Canada279 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-22 23:05:04
June 22 2015 22:57 GMT
#50
On June 23 2015 07:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 07:38 HyperST wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:22 travis wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:18 TitusVI wrote:
And they can still upgrade toplane.


last couple games I saw of dyrus he looked like one of the best NA top lanes

I don't know how you can say this when we just saw Gamsu shit stomp the living shit out of scrubs this past weekend.


dyrus can't even win lane against scrubs, your point?
also one of those scrubs was quas.


Helios camped Gamsu's lane like crazy while Santorin rarely even went up to top lane for a gank. While DIG is more top heavy with mid and bot playing support roles, TSM only helps top for counterganks, which is more than before but that doesn't equal to top priority like DIG. This also means that while Gamsu gets to snowball his leads on carries such as J4 and Hec, Dyrus only has access to Gnar, which you can tell by his item choices that he builds for team fights and not rushing Black Cleaver to 1v1 like Zion does.

Therefore, you can only judge a top laner by their respective roles. Sure, Dyrus does not aggressively go for 1v1s, but he makes up for it in team play. Yes, Gamsu gets the support for him to snowball, but then (on his J4 game) he had such a huge lead on J4, which is usually GG except he repeatedly dove the backline without his teammates and basically suicided in team fights, making the game a 53minute slug fest. So how can you say one top laner is definitively better than the other when they have different roles? Or do you only judge by kills?

Also, Quas and Impact have been drop the ball hard this week especially in the early game. Beating them doesn't reward Gamsu with a medal since TSM also beat TL and TiP.

Context is everything. And in my first comment I did not say Dyrus was the best when it came to laning and 1v1.

Twitter: @HyperST | @Esportsheaven
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-22 23:24:30
June 22 2015 23:23 GMT
#51
the older this game gets more convoluted I feel like the phrase 'wining lane' has become
Carrilord has arrived.
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
June 22 2015 23:35 GMT
#52
On June 23 2015 08:23 Slusher wrote:
the older this game gets more convoluted I feel like the phrase 'wining lane' has become


Agreed. So much of "winning the lane" comes down to how your team prioritises your farm and plays the laneswap in general. It's not as simple as looking at how much farm someone has gotten in the first 15 minutes.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
June 23 2015 00:34 GMT
#53
On June 23 2015 07:57 HyperST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 07:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:38 HyperST wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:22 travis wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:18 TitusVI wrote:
And they can still upgrade toplane.


last couple games I saw of dyrus he looked like one of the best NA top lanes

I don't know how you can say this when we just saw Gamsu shit stomp the living shit out of scrubs this past weekend.


dyrus can't even win lane against scrubs, your point?
also one of those scrubs was quas.


Helios camped Gamsu's lane like crazy while Santorin rarely even went up to top lane for a gank. While DIG is more top heavy with mid and bot playing support roles, TSM only helps top for counterganks, which is more than before but that doesn't equal to top priority like DIG. This also means that while Gamsu gets to snowball his leads on carries such as J4 and Hec, Dyrus only has access to Gnar, which you can tell by his item choices that he builds for team fights and not rushing Black Cleaver to 1v1 like Zion does.

Therefore, you can only judge a top laner by their respective roles. Sure, Dyrus does not aggressively go for 1v1s, but he makes up for it in team play. Yes, Gamsu gets the support for him to snowball, but then (on his J4 game) he had such a huge lead on J4, which is usually GG except he repeatedly dove the backline without his teammates and basically suicided in team fights, making the game a 53minute slug fest. So how can you say one top laner is definitively better than the other when they have different roles? Or do you only judge by kills?

Also, Quas and Impact have been drop the ball hard this week especially in the early game. Beating them doesn't reward Gamsu with a medal since TSM also beat TL and TiP.

Context is everything. And in my first comment I did not say Dyrus was the best when it came to laning and 1v1.



Not to mention that one of those scrubs, Quas, Dyrus played this week too. And while Quas was picking up kills, Dyrus more than held his own in lane. If I recall Dyrus was like 2/1/11 or something really good.

On June 23 2015 07:07 RagequitBM wrote:
Wow, if Keith gets this, he's going to be making a lot of cash for an 18 year old with that TSM stream viewer buff. I'm jelly


He doesn't even need to stay on TSM to be honest. If he plays ONE game for TSM, his stream buff is gonna be naisu.
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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-23 00:46:53
June 23 2015 00:41 GMT
#54
On June 23 2015 06:24 Redox wrote:
Bjergsen leaving TSM lol. He will nowhere earn even half the amount as on TSM with streaming included. And you have no guarantees that your next team will actually perform better.
Also I dont get why people always talk as if TSM is going down. They are still second in NA even with the problems they have.

They are still second in NA, yes. But Regi's been very clear that their goal is to perform well at Worlds, not just in NA- and in their current form, they won't. TSM holds itself to a higher standard, so it's to be expected that fans will also have higher expectations of them.

On June 23 2015 09:34 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 07:07 RagequitBM wrote:
Wow, if Keith gets this, he's going to be making a lot of cash for an 18 year old with that TSM stream viewer buff. I'm jelly


He doesn't even need to stay on TSM to be honest. If he plays ONE game for TSM, his stream buff is gonna be naisu.

Considering Keith is still a part of Team Liquid, he's unlikely to play a single game for TSM. It's either no games on TSM because Wildturtle stays on, or turtle gets benched, TSM acquires Keith from TL, and he becomes the starter ADC and plays a bunch of games.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 23 2015 01:13 GMT
#55
Santorin is another weak spot on the team and he's far too predictable. I think Regi is making a good move; however, I still don't see TSM doing anything noteworthy at World's. Teams cannot get used to the stats quo or else you'll never push players to keep improving or at least diversifying in order to stay in the hunt. As far as I'm concerned Bjergsen and LustBoy are the two players keeping TSM relevant. Mostly Bjergsen. It's amazing how well that worked out for them bringing him in because their focus so much on him making plays.
laebteo
Profile Joined June 2015
United States2 Posts
June 23 2015 01:23 GMT
#56
duo?
"I wish I was korean."
Call_me_b_
Profile Joined April 2015
Mexico117 Posts
June 23 2015 01:25 GMT
#57
On June 23 2015 07:57 HyperST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 07:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:38 HyperST wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:22 travis wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:18 TitusVI wrote:
And they can still upgrade toplane.


last couple games I saw of dyrus he looked like one of the best NA top lanes

I don't know how you can say this when we just saw Gamsu shit stomp the living shit out of scrubs this past weekend.


dyrus can't even win lane against scrubs, your point?
also one of those scrubs was quas.


Helios camped Gamsu's lane like crazy while Santorin rarely even went up to top lane for a gank. While DIG is more top heavy with mid and bot playing support roles, TSM only helps top for counterganks, which is more than before but that doesn't equal to top priority like DIG. This also means that while Gamsu gets to snowball his leads on carries such as J4 and Hec, Dyrus only has access to Gnar, which you can tell by his item choices that he builds for team fights and not rushing Black Cleaver to 1v1 like Zion does.

Therefore, you can only judge a top laner by their respective roles. Sure, Dyrus does not aggressively go for 1v1s, but he makes up for it in team play. Yes, Gamsu gets the support for him to snowball, but then (on his J4 game) he had such a huge lead on J4, which is usually GG except he repeatedly dove the backline without his teammates and basically suicided in team fights, making the game a 53minute slug fest. So how can you say one top laner is definitively better than the other when they have different roles? Or do you only judge by kills?

Also, Quas and Impact have been drop the ball hard this week especially in the early game. Beating them doesn't reward Gamsu with a medal since TSM also beat TL and TiP.

Context is everything. And in my first comment I did not say Dyrus was the best when it came to laning and 1v1.



As if TSM Camperin (Santorin) didn´t camp mid all the time.
I`m improving my English every day.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 23 2015 01:47 GMT
#58
--- Nuked ---
HyperST
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
Canada279 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-23 01:54:41
June 23 2015 01:52 GMT
#59
On June 23 2015 10:25 Call_me_b_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 07:57 HyperST wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:38 HyperST wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:33 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:22 travis wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:18 TitusVI wrote:
And they can still upgrade toplane.


last couple games I saw of dyrus he looked like one of the best NA top lanes

I don't know how you can say this when we just saw Gamsu shit stomp the living shit out of scrubs this past weekend.


dyrus can't even win lane against scrubs, your point?
also one of those scrubs was quas.


Helios camped Gamsu's lane like crazy while Santorin rarely even went up to top lane for a gank. While DIG is more top heavy with mid and bot playing support roles, TSM only helps top for counterganks, which is more than before but that doesn't equal to top priority like DIG. This also means that while Gamsu gets to snowball his leads on carries such as J4 and Hec, Dyrus only has access to Gnar, which you can tell by his item choices that he builds for team fights and not rushing Black Cleaver to 1v1 like Zion does.

Therefore, you can only judge a top laner by their respective roles. Sure, Dyrus does not aggressively go for 1v1s, but he makes up for it in team play. Yes, Gamsu gets the support for him to snowball, but then (on his J4 game) he had such a huge lead on J4, which is usually GG except he repeatedly dove the backline without his teammates and basically suicided in team fights, making the game a 53minute slug fest. So how can you say one top laner is definitively better than the other when they have different roles? Or do you only judge by kills?

Also, Quas and Impact have been drop the ball hard this week especially in the early game. Beating them doesn't reward Gamsu with a medal since TSM also beat TL and TiP.

Context is everything. And in my first comment I did not say Dyrus was the best when it came to laning and 1v1.



As if TSM Camperin (Santorin) didn´t camp mid all the time.


yes but we are just talking about the two top laners and how they fit in their team. not the mid lane
Twitter: @HyperST | @Esportsheaven
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
June 23 2015 02:50 GMT
#60
keiths retiring even posted on twitter
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