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alereu
Profile Joined February 2015
27 Posts
July 01 2015 11:19 GMT
#141
I think this was a mistake. Keith, if he sticks to it, is going to turn out really solid you watch.
alereu
Profile Joined February 2015
27 Posts
July 01 2015 11:29 GMT
#142
Good luck Keith. I like Piglet, but the game is entirely more communication based now. You watch TDK now that they are speaking Korean, lets see how they do. Having two people not speak the language is much harder than just one, for that reason alone I think Keith should have been given more time. Again nothing against Piglet, he seems to be fitting in with the team great now, but they should have held on to Keith.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 01 2015 11:30 GMT
#143
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 11:39:45
July 01 2015 11:39 GMT
#144
On July 01 2015 20:29 alereu wrote:
Good luck Keith. I like Piglet, but the game is entirely more communication based now. You watch TDK now that they are speaking Korean, lets see how they do. Having two people not speak the language is much harder than just one, for that reason alone I think Keith should have been given more time. Again nothing against Piglet, he seems to be fitting in with the team great now, but they should have held on to Keith.


Communication is overrated in League of Legends.
Even more than friendship.

On July 01 2015 20:30 krndandaman wrote:
thanks for the update, liquid.

this doesn't mean keith is the starter right? just that TSM has his contract and are free to use him in any way they see fit?


Pretty much, just official TSM member now. Like Altec was at some point during his stint in C9T.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 01 2015 14:27 GMT
#145
Mmmm Keith gonna get dat sick TSM streaming $$$
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LimpingGoat
Profile Joined January 2015
898 Posts
July 01 2015 16:27 GMT
#146
On July 01 2015 17:17 NeoStrides wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 17:07 SandySamuel wrote:
Hope that TSM switches Keith and Turtle out for lcs similar to CLG and their mid laners, be a shame for turtle to be replaced after improving this past week.

To be fair CLG doesn't really switch out their mid laners like people thought they would, and 2 good games doesn't excuse 2-3 splits of mediocre play, but it's definitely a step in the right direction to #keepkeith so that they have options and can make the change if need be.


"2-3 splits of mediocre play"
LimpingGoat
Profile Joined January 2015
898 Posts
July 01 2015 16:28 GMT
#147
On July 01 2015 20:39 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 20:29 alereu wrote:
Good luck Keith. I like Piglet, but the game is entirely more communication based now. You watch TDK now that they are speaking Korean, lets see how they do. Having two people not speak the language is much harder than just one, for that reason alone I think Keith should have been given more time. Again nothing against Piglet, he seems to be fitting in with the team great now, but they should have held on to Keith.


Communication is overrated in League of Legends.
Even more than friendship.

Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 20:30 krndandaman wrote:
thanks for the update, liquid.

this doesn't mean keith is the starter right? just that TSM has his contract and are free to use him in any way they see fit?


Pretty much, just official TSM member now. Like Altec was at some point during his stint in C9T.


I definitely don't think it's overrated, I think its just more nuanced than people realize.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 17:53:51
July 01 2015 17:53 GMT
#148
On July 02 2015 01:28 LimpingGoat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 20:39 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 01 2015 20:29 alereu wrote:
Good luck Keith. I like Piglet, but the game is entirely more communication based now. You watch TDK now that they are speaking Korean, lets see how they do. Having two people not speak the language is much harder than just one, for that reason alone I think Keith should have been given more time. Again nothing against Piglet, he seems to be fitting in with the team great now, but they should have held on to Keith.


Communication is overrated in League of Legends.
Even more than friendship.

On July 01 2015 20:30 krndandaman wrote:
thanks for the update, liquid.

this doesn't mean keith is the starter right? just that TSM has his contract and are free to use him in any way they see fit?


Pretty much, just official TSM member now. Like Altec was at some point during his stint in C9T.


I definitely don't think it's overrated, I think its just more nuanced than people realize.


"nuanced"

- GOGOGO *insert champ name* + pings.

Holy shit, such communication. 10/12 of LPL teams work like that, TIP is working like that, TDK is working like that and so on. But everyone is still "hurr, proper communication is so hard to develop".

Legit bigger bullshit than "Team can't be successful without XX analysts, bunch of coaches and full Korean infrastructure".
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 01 2015 18:02 GMT
#149
Can you explain C9?
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tar0
Profile Joined July 2015
United States1 Post
July 01 2015 18:23 GMT
#150
On June 23 2015 04:37 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 04:27 HyperST wrote:
I feel like if the other lanes dont step up soon for TSM (mostly just bot at this point), very soon Bjergsen will be donezo.

Done with TSM?


Bjergsen is not best mid in the west. Been confirmed. He isn't even best in NA anymore. He can only play one style and he doesn't impact the game anymore. He needs to be replaced.
LimpingGoat
Profile Joined January 2015
898 Posts
July 01 2015 18:31 GMT
#151
On July 02 2015 02:53 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 01:28 LimpingGoat wrote:
On July 01 2015 20:39 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 01 2015 20:29 alereu wrote:
Good luck Keith. I like Piglet, but the game is entirely more communication based now. You watch TDK now that they are speaking Korean, lets see how they do. Having two people not speak the language is much harder than just one, for that reason alone I think Keith should have been given more time. Again nothing against Piglet, he seems to be fitting in with the team great now, but they should have held on to Keith.


Communication is overrated in League of Legends.
Even more than friendship.

On July 01 2015 20:30 krndandaman wrote:
thanks for the update, liquid.

this doesn't mean keith is the starter right? just that TSM has his contract and are free to use him in any way they see fit?


Pretty much, just official TSM member now. Like Altec was at some point during his stint in C9T.


I definitely don't think it's overrated, I think its just more nuanced than people realize.


"nuanced"

- GOGOGO *insert champ name* + pings.

Holy shit, such communication. 10/12 of LPL teams work like that, TIP is working like that, TDK is working like that and so on. But everyone is still "hurr, proper communication is so hard to develop".

Legit bigger bullshit than "Team can't be successful without XX analysts, bunch of coaches and full Korean infrastructure".


I actually think weirdly enough teams with more common language have more communication problems. Communication problems are not as simple as the ability to share information.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 01 2015 20:29 GMT
#152
On July 02 2015 03:23 tar0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 04:37 Zato-1 wrote:
On June 23 2015 04:27 HyperST wrote:
I feel like if the other lanes dont step up soon for TSM (mostly just bot at this point), very soon Bjergsen will be donezo.

Done with TSM?


Bjergsen is not best mid in the west. Been confirmed. He isn't even best in NA anymore. He can only play one style and he doesn't impact the game anymore. He needs to be replaced.

lol

Only thing there that is reasonably true is not best mid in west, and even then I doubt that.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 01 2015 20:45 GMT
#153
There's a couple guys who could beat Bjerg in a few matchups, a few guys who could beat him on a really good day, but that doesn't mean he's not best in the west.
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-01 21:00:51
July 01 2015 20:54 GMT
#154
On July 02 2015 05:29 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 03:23 tar0 wrote:
On June 23 2015 04:37 Zato-1 wrote:
On June 23 2015 04:27 HyperST wrote:
I feel like if the other lanes dont step up soon for TSM (mostly just bot at this point), very soon Bjergsen will be donezo.

Done with TSM?


Bjergsen is not best mid in the west. Been confirmed. He isn't even best in NA anymore. He can only play one style and he doesn't impact the game anymore. He needs to be replaced.

lol

Only thing there that is reasonably true is not best mid in west, and even then I doubt that.

Bjergsen was the best western mid pre-IEM, he was ahead of everyone in west. He has fallen at MSI though. Febiven is clearly ahead of every westtern mid laner atm.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 01 2015 21:09 GMT
#155
On July 02 2015 05:54 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 05:29 Gahlo wrote:
On July 02 2015 03:23 tar0 wrote:
On June 23 2015 04:37 Zato-1 wrote:
On June 23 2015 04:27 HyperST wrote:
I feel like if the other lanes dont step up soon for TSM (mostly just bot at this point), very soon Bjergsen will be donezo.

Done with TSM?


Bjergsen is not best mid in the west. Been confirmed. He isn't even best in NA anymore. He can only play one style and he doesn't impact the game anymore. He needs to be replaced.

lol

Only thing there that is reasonably true is not best mid in west, and even then I doubt that.

Bjergsen was the best western mid pre-IEM, he was ahead of everyone in west. He has fallen at MSI though. Febiven is clearly ahead of every westtern mid laner atm.

Febiven also benefits from having the best jungler and top laner in the west on his team. Put Bjerg on Fnatic and I guarantee he'd play at a similar level.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
July 01 2015 21:15 GMT
#156
On July 01 2015 16:37 LiQuiD112 wrote:
We assigned our contract to TSM today in exchange for a price, Keith has been released from TL. I'm really happy for him and we'll be figuring out what next steps are for Team Liquid Academy.


Love to see the transparency, thanks!!
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
NeoStrides
Profile Joined January 2015
United States2 Posts
July 01 2015 21:15 GMT
#157
On July 02 2015 01:27 LimpingGoat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 17:17 NeoStrides wrote:
On July 01 2015 17:07 SandySamuel wrote:
Hope that TSM switches Keith and Turtle out for lcs similar to CLG and their mid laners, be a shame for turtle to be replaced after improving this past week.

To be fair CLG doesn't really switch out their mid laners like people thought they would, and 2 good games doesn't excuse 2-3 splits of mediocre play, but it's definitely a step in the right direction to #keepkeith so that they have options and can make the change if need be.


"2-3 splits of mediocre play"

Am I wrong? Maybe he's been average, but i don't see how you can argue that he's been above average at all.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
July 01 2015 22:04 GMT
#158
On July 02 2015 06:09 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 05:54 Mensol wrote:
On July 02 2015 05:29 Gahlo wrote:
On July 02 2015 03:23 tar0 wrote:
On June 23 2015 04:37 Zato-1 wrote:
On June 23 2015 04:27 HyperST wrote:
I feel like if the other lanes dont step up soon for TSM (mostly just bot at this point), very soon Bjergsen will be donezo.

Done with TSM?


Bjergsen is not best mid in the west. Been confirmed. He isn't even best in NA anymore. He can only play one style and he doesn't impact the game anymore. He needs to be replaced.

lol

Only thing there that is reasonably true is not best mid in west, and even then I doubt that.

Bjergsen was the best western mid pre-IEM, he was ahead of everyone in west. He has fallen at MSI though. Febiven is clearly ahead of every westtern mid laner atm.

Febiven also benefits from having the best jungler and top laner in the west on his team. Put Bjerg on Fnatic and I guarantee he'd play at a similar level.

I'd agree if you said this two months ago but now, nope. It's not about team, Bjergsen underperforming since MSI. Of couse he is still good but not as good as he used to be.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
LimpingGoat
Profile Joined January 2015
898 Posts
July 01 2015 22:25 GMT
#159
On July 02 2015 06:15 NeoStrides wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 01:27 LimpingGoat wrote:
On July 01 2015 17:17 NeoStrides wrote:
On July 01 2015 17:07 SandySamuel wrote:
Hope that TSM switches Keith and Turtle out for lcs similar to CLG and their mid laners, be a shame for turtle to be replaced after improving this past week.

To be fair CLG doesn't really switch out their mid laners like people thought they would, and 2 good games doesn't excuse 2-3 splits of mediocre play, but it's definitely a step in the right direction to #keepkeith so that they have options and can make the change if need be.


"2-3 splits of mediocre play"

Am I wrong? Maybe he's been average, but i don't see how you can argue that he's been above average at all.


I don't know how about you look at his stats, he's been a top 3 ADC if not higher for like his entire time on TSM. Only recently, as in this split has he truly fallen off.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
July 01 2015 23:07 GMT
#160
On July 02 2015 07:25 LimpingGoat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 06:15 NeoStrides wrote:
On July 02 2015 01:27 LimpingGoat wrote:
On July 01 2015 17:17 NeoStrides wrote:
On July 01 2015 17:07 SandySamuel wrote:
Hope that TSM switches Keith and Turtle out for lcs similar to CLG and their mid laners, be a shame for turtle to be replaced after improving this past week.

To be fair CLG doesn't really switch out their mid laners like people thought they would, and 2 good games doesn't excuse 2-3 splits of mediocre play, but it's definitely a step in the right direction to #keepkeith so that they have options and can make the change if need be.


"2-3 splits of mediocre play"

Am I wrong? Maybe he's been average, but i don't see how you can argue that he's been above average at all.


I don't know how about you look at his stats, he's been a top 3 ADC if not higher for like his entire time on TSM. Only recently, as in this split has he truly fallen off.

You are talking about only NA right? not overall?
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
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