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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 01 2015 23:14 GMT
#161
On July 02 2015 08:07 Mensol wrote:
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On July 02 2015 07:25 LimpingGoat wrote:
On July 02 2015 06:15 NeoStrides wrote:
On July 02 2015 01:27 LimpingGoat wrote:
On July 01 2015 17:17 NeoStrides wrote:
On July 01 2015 17:07 SandySamuel wrote:
Hope that TSM switches Keith and Turtle out for lcs similar to CLG and their mid laners, be a shame for turtle to be replaced after improving this past week.

To be fair CLG doesn't really switch out their mid laners like people thought they would, and 2 good games doesn't excuse 2-3 splits of mediocre play, but it's definitely a step in the right direction to #keepkeith so that they have options and can make the change if need be.


"2-3 splits of mediocre play"

Am I wrong? Maybe he's been average, but i don't see how you can argue that he's been above average at all.


I don't know how about you look at his stats, he's been a top 3 ADC if not higher for like his entire time on TSM. Only recently, as in this split has he truly fallen off.

You are talking about only NA right? not overall?

Only NA. At least, the article that I think he's getting from was focused on NA.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
July 01 2015 23:14 GMT
#162
Keith is starting for TSM this week.

RIP Turtle.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
LimpingGoat
Profile Joined January 2015
898 Posts
July 01 2015 23:14 GMT
#163
On July 02 2015 08:07 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 07:25 LimpingGoat wrote:
On July 02 2015 06:15 NeoStrides wrote:
On July 02 2015 01:27 LimpingGoat wrote:
On July 01 2015 17:17 NeoStrides wrote:
On July 01 2015 17:07 SandySamuel wrote:
Hope that TSM switches Keith and Turtle out for lcs similar to CLG and their mid laners, be a shame for turtle to be replaced after improving this past week.

To be fair CLG doesn't really switch out their mid laners like people thought they would, and 2 good games doesn't excuse 2-3 splits of mediocre play, but it's definitely a step in the right direction to #keepkeith so that they have options and can make the change if need be.


"2-3 splits of mediocre play"

Am I wrong? Maybe he's been average, but i don't see how you can argue that he's been above average at all.


I don't know how about you look at his stats, he's been a top 3 ADC if not higher for like his entire time on TSM. Only recently, as in this split has he truly fallen off.

You are talking about only NA right? not overall?


There really isn't enough international competition to get a good picture but I know he had the best stats of any Western ADC at S4 Worlds.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
July 01 2015 23:24 GMT
#164
Turtle did really well last week too. TSM's management makes it really hard for me to cheer for TSM.
jack342342
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom4 Posts
July 01 2015 23:48 GMT
#165
I want this move to work but I can't help but think that the synergy between Lust and Keith might be lacking
'Up until they lost the game, they were winning'
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 01 2015 23:50 GMT
#166
On July 02 2015 08:48 jack342342 wrote:
I want this move to work but I can't help but think that the synergy between Lust and Keith might be lacking

Dank meme synergy is as strong as steel beams.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 01 2015 23:58 GMT
#167
On July 02 2015 08:24 K3Nyy wrote:
Turtle did really well last week too. TSM's management makes it really hard for me to cheer for TSM.

At least trying Keith in a real game to give him a chance seems absolutely fair to me.
Off-season = best season
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 01 2015 23:59 GMT
#168
Its smart for the team as well because actual LCS games are the best place to actually judge. I guess it depends on who they are playing this week? Maybe they have a softer schedule so they want to test it out then.
Never Knows Best.
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
July 02 2015 00:28 GMT
#169
I wouldn't describe Turtle's most recent splits as mediocre, I'd describe them as inconsistent. He'd have some good games but he'd also have performances where he'd be a skillshot magnet and it would cost TSM games. An ADC's stats are always going to be misleading when you have by far the best player in the region as your midlaner so I don't consider them all that relevant.

For me the main problem with Turtle is that he's not the ADC TSM needs. TSM has Bjergsen. Absolute beast of a player and head and shoulders above anyone else in the region. They need a safe, reliable carry, who'll farm well, show up to team fights, output at much damage as possible from a safe distance and clean up after the enemy has burned everything on Bjergsen. Turtle's positioning is more aggressive and we've all seen the questionable (at best) Flashes supposedly "because he gets bored". When you have Bjergsen you don't need to play that risky and that Turtle never adjusted his style is for me an indicator that he didn't understand his changing role on the team. I see Keith as a much better fit for TSM.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
July 02 2015 03:09 GMT
#170
On July 02 2015 08:24 K3Nyy wrote:
Turtle did really well last week too. TSM's management makes it really hard for me to cheer for TSM.


As a TSM fan I really appreciate the fact that they are giving Keith the fair shot that they promised him, even if the whole thing came about as a way to motivate turtle.

And unlike CLG fans it's easy for me to have faith in TSM's management since they generally tend to work out.
Fan of the Jangbanger
LimpingGoat
Profile Joined January 2015
898 Posts
July 02 2015 06:12 GMT
#171
Inb4 Keith becomes the easyhoon to Turtle's Faker.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
July 02 2015 17:40 GMT
#172
I don't think Turtle has any reason to be mentioned with Faker. I guess unless you displayed a line graph of League player's skill and then I guess you'd say: |Bronze League Players------Turtle-----Faker|

No but seriously I think that giving Keith a shot is worth it. Lustboy has been underperforming recently too and I can't help but think it might have something to do with his adc having many lackluster performances. Keith could be considered as an upgrade to two positions instead of one if he meshes well with Lustcena.
Hey! How you doin'?
Pemula
Profile Joined October 2010
Indonesia73 Posts
July 04 2015 09:32 GMT
#173
so the switch is not permanent right? well goodluck for keith but hopefully wildturtle can get like a 'jolt' and increase his gameplay after this
goodluck for both!!!
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