EPT[Patch 5.10] Ekko General Discussion - Page 9
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On May 29 2015 18:23 ticklishmusic wrote: The problem is that Ekko just has too much utility and different ways to use skills. Dude has more combo potential and utility than Lulu on a champ that does damage. I'm going to keep harping on this (because I want to drive this point home) : Ekko is basically AP Riven. Maybe not as many mechanical options and interactions as her (insert some dumb clip of boxbox's Riven here) but the damage, utility, and outplay potential is almost as large. Honestly, it might be better to think of Ekko in-lane as Riven if this is your first time playing against him; if you're at/below 50% hp, expect an all-in to kill you. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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IMoperator
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On May 29 2015 19:11 Alaric wrote: But Riven can do that if you're at/below 100% though. So the counter to Riven is to be over 100% health? Why has nobody ever done this to counter her? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On May 29 2015 22:44 Alaric wrote: I think the secret is to get the runic shield defensive mastery. But it's so counter-intuitive! Is that a pun? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On May 29 2015 14:09 I_Love_Bacon wrote: This is kind of a nonsense question in a way but I'm curious: Are there any champs that have been released for quite a while that you simply have never played? I was thinking about this while I'm in champ select and realize I've never once played Jayce. I have like 3k+ games played and I've probably never played 20 to 25 champions. Maybe more | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
I know for sure I have only played these champions only once (I hated the experience and it was very memorable): Draven K6 Rengar Gangplank Corki | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
ARAMs yo. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On May 30 2015 02:03 JimmiC wrote: anyone having issues spectating since patch? mine fails and then when i do relog and watch is crazy choppy. Well OGN is... :^) I haven't noticed anything. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On May 29 2015 19:11 Alaric wrote: But Riven can do that if you're at/below 100% though. Riven doesn't use mana for her skills, Ekko does. So you have to be a bit careful with that. I'm sure given enough time (hah) Ekko can 100-0 someone in lane, it's just harder to do in mid due to how short the lane is compared to the mile long field that is top lane. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On May 29 2015 13:22 Kinie wrote: Terminal cancer, inoperable. But for real though, based upon my 1 game with him, shit is bonkers, like the damage/burst he does once he gets even a couple items (ie., Ludens and Lich Bane) is enough to make him ban-worthy. And lets not even talk about the insane damage his ult does. I constantly got 3 and 4 man bursts with the ulti, usually going back in with a W landing the same time as I go back in. So not only do they eat a billion damage, they are stunned for 2.25 seconds. It's like an AP Sejuani ult, only you get healed for it and deal way more damage. You know, i don't think lichbane or luden's is all that good on him aside from the move speed You've got 1.7 AP ratio on E,Q,Auto. And you're more or less guaranteed to get it all off if you land an E(or you die). Lichbane adds .5 AP ratio to that combo, and you won't get a second proc before your CD's are up again unless you wait on your Q for 1.5 seconds Deathcap adds .51 AP effective ratio on a 1.7 AP combo. So you're only up the 50 base damage but down the extra base AP. But Deathcap also clears waves better, and deathcap does more damage on his W passive, and Deathcap gives you a bigger shield on your W, and Deathcap makes your ult hilarious. Luden's has a similar issue though it does make his poke/clear a lot better. The breakpoint on a combo where luden's does more damage is under 286 base AP. So first item plus a quarter/half way through your second big item. That is good, plus the proc makes clearing waves easier since you're not going to have trouble with the ranged minions and the proc perfectly hits the melee. But you still lose on your shield and ult. From there would you rather have the damage or Zhonya's Active? Or pen from Void? Or CDR from morellos? Or mixed offense/defense from abyssal (you're melee anyway, so the pen is super strong) I can see lich after cap (after all it has almost the same multiplicative effect on non-ult damage as cap, just less AP and less ancillary effects). But i can't really see a great use of Luden's unless you really really really need that wave clear. If you already have cap then Lich>Luden. If you already have Lich/Cap then Zhonya/Void/Abyssal/Morello's all seem better. | ||
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MidnightGladius
China1214 Posts
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