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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On June 06 2015 02:20 Sufficiency wrote: I just value the 20% life steal more, esp vs tanks. Damage is useless when you are chunked to 10% and unable to recover at all. being alive is useless when you dont do any damage | ||
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Ethelis
United States2396 Posts
On June 06 2015 03:20 nafta wrote: being alive is useless when you dont do any damage Low DPS > No DPS + Show Spoiler + Before anyone else counters; Just get good instead of using crutch builds. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
It isn't a random fact that unless you are playing champs like draven or kalista nobody rushes bt. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 06 2015 00:13 Sufficiency wrote: I think BT first has been strong since the IE nerf (IE on Lucian, for example, makes 0 sense to me). Yeah. Double crit makes no sense. Plz. Lucian essentially has freee pseudo AS, making crit scale harder on him than most adc. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On June 06 2015 02:20 Sufficiency wrote: I just value the 20% life steal more, esp vs tanks. Damage is useless when you are chunked to 10% and unable to recover at all. No, I agree. I was just suggesting how far the IE nerf hit when its nearly worse than component items On June 06 2015 03:29 wei2coolman wrote: Yeah. Double crit makes no sense. Plz. Lucian essentially has freee pseudo AS, making crit scale harder on him than most adc. Lucians passive is just an auto attack multiplier. His free psuedo AS makes crit and AD and lifesteal and penetration scale harder on him than AS but does not alter the ideal ratio of AD/Lifesteal/penetration/crit. His abilities all have AD/AS scaling not crit scaling and that scaling is fairly high compared to other AD's That isn't to say that crit isn't good, but it is to say that crit isn't so much better than other attributes that you should buy it if you wouldn't otherwise. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On June 06 2015 03:25 nafta wrote: Yea but he is completely ignoring the fact that you can get ie/pd/lw+pot which is A LOT stronger than bt/pd/lw+pot. It isn't a random fact that unless you are playing champs like draven or kalista nobody rushes bt. IE is definitely stronger vs a dummy target that does not fight back. When you are vs a Nunu with Snowball slowly wearing you down, you will appreciate life steal more. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4122 Posts
On June 06 2015 04:06 Sufficiency wrote: IE is definitely stronger vs a dummy target that does not fight back. When you are vs a Nunu with Snowball slowly wearing you down, you will appreciate life steal more. Which is a completely irrelevant scenario. As an ADC you'll never get chased down 1v1 vs a Nunu at that time. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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loSleb
Austria1389 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On June 06 2015 05:22 Zdrastochye wrote: Are we really arguing IE vs BT? Both serve completely different functions. One makes you not die, and do some damage, the other makes you do tons of damage (ty Phreak) and if you kill them fast enough you also don't die. So? Which one would you buy first, on Lucian in particular? Do you think it depends on situation whatsoever? | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 06 2015 05:35 krndandaman wrote: generally IE but I think you can go BT if your comp revolves around snowballing the early to mid game like in SKT vs CJ game 4. bang went BT first there on lucian and I really liked how he just went ham on the sivir and then lifestealed back up to force 5v4's elsewhere on the map. granted its a pretty niche situation though so I would just advocate IE first on lucian Yup. Also with IE you have flexibility between Ghostblade and Shiv/PD 2nd item. | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On June 06 2015 09:10 IMoperator wrote: having pick order be random is one of the dumbest things riot has done to ranked. dont know why they had a problem with the mmr based pick order but w/e Recognising some players as more skilled than others is toxic. | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
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