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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 31 2015 05:45 GMT
#261
All ekkos particles look the same. And they all hard to see.

Forget any of the rest of it... I want to be able to see his shit when he casts it on me. Lol.

It's not even like it's hard to figure out what he is doing in a teamfight. Like 1v1 mid in lane you just like "Dafuq? He just did damage to me. How?"
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35144 Posts
May 31 2015 05:47 GMT
#262
On May 31 2015 14:45 iCanada wrote:
All ekkos particles look the same. And they all hard to see.

Forget any of the rest of it... I want to be able to see his shit when he casts it on me. Lol.

It's not even like it's hard to figure out what he is doing in a teamfight. Like 1v1 mid in lane you just like "Dafuq? He just did damage to me. How?"

Voodoo magic.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
May 31 2015 06:02 GMT
#263
On May 31 2015 14:10 Slusher wrote:
with warrior coming back I think kha is on the rise


Need like 20 additional damage on W to complete casual cycle of Kha'Zix before he gets dunked again.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35144 Posts
May 31 2015 06:08 GMT
#264
Poor Kha'Zix. Riot never seems to know what to do with him.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 31 2015 06:19 GMT
#265
he's been legit since they increased his heal on w, but it happened right when cinderhulk came out so it went unnoticed, but he's strong esp if they don't go 2+ tanks.
Carrilord has arrived.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 06:38:16
May 31 2015 06:37 GMT
#266
On May 31 2015 15:19 Slusher wrote:
he's been legit since they increased his heal on w, but it happened right when cinderhulk came out so it went unnoticed, but he's strong esp if they don't go 2+ tanks.


Which won't happen in the current meta until Cinderhulk gets nerfed into the ground, because Riot doesn't know what they want to do with it.

All they need to do is have the multiplicative health bonus on it be lower, like brought down to 20% at most. 25% just lets tanks get into unkillable status come late game.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 31 2015 07:14 GMT
#267
it happens all the time, the guy was asking what he could play in his games not what people have seen on ogn lately, although we had a yasuo and a riven top just last week so that actually just isn't true in any context
Carrilord has arrived.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 08:33:55
May 31 2015 08:33 GMT
#268
Ekko has understandably low winrate since he's new, http://champion.gg/champion/Ekko. I think he's really strong though.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Arwen02LoL
Profile Joined May 2015
1 Post
May 31 2015 08:39 GMT
#269
Does anyone know if Ekko's shield is going to get nerfed or if they're planning to keep it the same?
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JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 09:16:34
May 31 2015 09:12 GMT
#270
On May 31 2015 17:39 Arwen02LoL wrote:
Does anyone know if Ekko's shield is going to get nerfed or if they're planning to keep it the same?

In the AMA, they were asked how they would tune Ekko if he was too strong. From memory, they said his base movespeed and his ult ratio. Shield wasn't mentioned, but I think it's by far the most annoying thing.

Also, Meddler mentioned on the boards that MF is getting a visual update and there will be a small gameplay update attached to it. Timeframe wasn't mentioned though
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
May 31 2015 09:35 GMT
#271
On May 31 2015 17:39 Arwen02LoL wrote:
Does anyone know if Ekko's shield is going to get nerfed or if they're planning to keep it the same?

Nothing out on PBE yet about him. Knowing Riot I think it's more likely they are going to make range on it scale with levels rather than having absurd range at level 1 before touching anything else tho.

Been having a lot of fun with him in toplane using the Voyboyesque tank-katarina build as a template. feels much better than the full AP mid imo, being a bit more beefy while still dealing significant damage thanks to the high mpen and ok base damage suits his kit really well. Some defensive stats make all his abilities a lot more flexible.
If you get the slighest bit ahead in toplane Homeguards are just unfair with his ultimate and a smidge CDR, scrap constantly and just ult back to lane to keep the threat of a TP assist in botlane.

Guise, sorcs, void staff and abyssal are usually all the damage you need and hit spikes much faster than the expensive Needless's items path (much easier to avoid the awkward backs where you're short on having enough gold for a part). With the high amount of mpen Thornmail/Sunfire are crazy good.

Been trying out different rune setups and Hybrid reds and Scaling CDR blues feel by far the best in those slots, if you of course have a match up where you can afford skipping flat MR - which is most in toplane, another reason why I prefer him there.
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decyfer
Profile Joined April 2015
Australia162 Posts
May 31 2015 09:58 GMT
#272
Ekko's shield seems ridiculously strong at the moment
GiftPflanZe
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany623 Posts
May 31 2015 13:27 GMT
#273
On May 31 2015 03:44 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2015 03:28 GiftPflanZe wrote:
On May 31 2015 03:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On May 31 2015 03:22 GiftPflanZe wrote:
Anyone knows how the lcs pros play evelyn?like which runes and masteries?or a page where I can look up that.


Don't watch LCS pros play Evelynn.
http://www.op.gg/summoner/champions/userName=ciearlove
http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=다시처세하다
Go and take a look.

First of all,thanks alot.Still struggling to see which runes and masteries he uses,if I look up evelyn matches I dont see the masteries or runes,or is there a way?


Find his Evelynn games, there is symbol of loupe, click and you'll be in heaven.

Thanks alot!
...
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
May 31 2015 13:55 GMT
#274
So in LCS Doublelift had a fairly odd looking Ashe build.

[image loading]

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/TRLH1/1001190040?gameHash=910d1678643730c4&tab=builds&participant=4

I'm not really sure if this is good or not.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 14:19:33
May 31 2015 14:18 GMT
#275
On May 31 2015 22:55 Ansibled wrote:
So in LCS Doublelift had a fairly odd looking Ashe build.

[image loading]

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/TRLH1/1001190040?gameHash=910d1678643730c4&tab=builds&participant=4

I'm not really sure if this is good or not.

I think it's ok to build this way.

New ashe does not benefit from lucky crits with IE first.

getting zeal instead of finishing IE gives her a little -20% crit dmg (120 instead of 140) and -5 ad, but +20% atkspd and 5% movespeed for a carry with no mobility other than walking (and it's 200-something cheaper).

Early lifesteal instead of finishing PD or IE is a little weird for an AD without escapes, but maybe he didn't have money for anything on that buy?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 31 2015 14:45 GMT
#276
IE's passive still has a big effect on Ashe's damage. Sure she doesn't get the benefit of lucky first crit and she needs to auto 3-4 times to get up to average damage (compared to other marksmen going IE first), but that's still around 37.5% dps increase (IE's crit% + passive alone do that compared to someone with 0% crit, it's a bit less for Ashe because of her additional 10% damage on crits). That's kinda non-negligible for 1375 gold.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 16:21:57
May 31 2015 16:20 GMT
#277
IEs passive doesn't have a big effect for ashe until you have some other crit. It otherwise moves your crit damage from 1.3 (20% base) to 1.4 (20% x 1.5). Which is less than 10%. It's almost less than buying component AD/crit items instead of completing IE.

So BF/pick + PD will be similar or higher in damage due to the AS than say IE + zeal.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-31 16:31:22
May 31 2015 16:30 GMT
#278
PD over a finished IE and a Zeal is 30% more attack speed and 5% more Crit at the cost of 10 AD and the passive.

I dunno about that, but maybe the AS is that good.
XDG Mata
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 31 2015 16:33 GMT
#279
On June 01 2015 01:20 Goumindong wrote:
IEs passive doesn't have a big effect for ashe until you have some other crit. It otherwise moves your crit damage from 1.3 (20% base) to 1.4 (20% x 1.5). Which is less than 10%. It's almost less than buying component AD/crit items instead of completing IE.

So BF/pick + PD will be similar or higher in damage due to the AS than say IE + zeal.

That's becaue you're judging only the IE passive, while if you look at DL's build (and the way finishing an item is approached in general, with people rarely sitting on a crit cloak) you have to take into account IE's passive+crit%. Considering the price point it's to be put up against a Zeal or something.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
May 31 2015 16:46 GMT
#280
On June 01 2015 01:33 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 01:20 Goumindong wrote:
IEs passive doesn't have a big effect for ashe until you have some other crit. It otherwise moves your crit damage from 1.3 (20% base) to 1.4 (20% x 1.5). Which is less than 10%. It's almost less than buying component AD/crit items instead of completing IE.

So BF/pick + PD will be similar or higher in damage due to the AS than say IE + zeal.

That's becaue you're judging only the IE passive, while if you look at DL's build (and the way finishing an item is approached in general, with people rarely sitting on a crit cloak) you have to take into account IE's passive+crit%. Considering the price point it's to be put up against a Zeal or something.

Uhh no. because the question is "why didn't he rush IE" and if he did that he wouldn't have other crit to be multiplied.

If you're concerns about your mid game item timings/power then zeal after BF/Pick is a lot better than finishing IE. Then do you finish IE or PD I am not sure.
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