EPTOn May 31 2015 08:19 Slusher wrote:
is cinderhulk jungle ekko really a thing or did this guy on my team suck dick?
is cinderhulk jungle ekko really a thing or did this guy on my team suck dick?
People want it to be a thing, it shouldn't be.
[Patch 5.10] Ekko General Discussion - Page 13
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
People want it to be a thing, it shouldn't be. | ||
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
Am i right in assuming that he is banned out so much because: - The yoyo applies stacks for his passive, allowing him to do crazy burst on one auto with lichbane, E and 3rd stack passive proc - The stun circle is hard to see when you first put it down ? His mobility is rather underwhelming, hitting his ult and the stun thing is more about people getting caught off guard / not paying attention to new effects on their screens. Take the yoyo stacks away and he loses 1/3rd of his instant burst too and he'd be in dumpster tier. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On May 31 2015 09:23 snow2.0 wrote: Just tried the new champ in a bot game. Am i right in assuming that he is banned out so much because: - The yoyo applies stacks for his passive, allowing him to do crazy burst on one auto with lichbane, E and 3rd stack passive proc - The stun circle is hard to see when you first put it down ? His mobility is rather underwhelming, hitting his ult and the stun thing is more about people getting caught off guard / not paying attention to new effects on their screens. Take the yoyo stacks away and he loses 1/3rd of his instant burst too and he'd be in dumpster tier. His particles are also a bit hard to see in general, at least on his base skin. The W slow/stun field's range is also insanely large for only 1 point in it. His ratios are probably a little overtuned and could see a slight nerf and he'd still be ok. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Someone said assassins are hard as fuck to balance because either they burst someone or they're useless. Well Ekko is made to kill someone over a longer period, which isn't a bad thing. It's annoying when people don't bother reading the numbers before winging opinions. Ekko's basic attacks deal 5% (+ 1% per 55 AP) of target's missing health as bonus magic damage versus targets below 30% of their maximum health. He doesn't 100-0 you but he makes up for it by killing you very fast once you drop low enough, since he easily reaches the point where he does 8+% of your total HP per auto, on top of his normal damage/spells/passive. | ||
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
On May 31 2015 09:39 Kinie wrote: His particles are also a bit hard to see in general, at least on his base skin. The W slow/stun field's range is also insanely large for only 1 point in it. His ratios are probably a little overtuned and could see a slight nerf and he'd still be ok. I can see the stun circle be changed to scaling stun time with points and less total time at 5 points, 2.25 is brutal at one point... but really, it's telegraphed 3 seconds ahead and if they change the visuals to something that can actually be seen, people won't get caught off guard so much. | ||
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MagnusWolf
United States483 Posts
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
On May 31 2015 10:16 MagnusWolf wrote: the enemy team cant see the W circle until like <1 sec before it lands. The animation on Ekko is very strongly indicating the direction where it is cast, thats what i meant. If you dodge to a side it should be reasonable to get out of the edge-zone of the circle if it's still on you when it appears. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Kaethis
Netherlands112 Posts
Ugh. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On May 31 2015 10:24 snow2.0 wrote: The animation on Ekko is very strongly indicating the direction where it is cast, thats what i meant. If you dodge to a side it should be reasonable to get out of the edge-zone of the circle if it's still on you when it appears. The animation is also easy to mask if you are moving around in lane, harassing with Q. I've gotten my lane opponent hit with it when I was in plain sight of them. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On May 31 2015 03:41 Gahlo wrote: Balance level of older to newer champions expecting a similar distribution in power level is ridiculous. Older champions have had much more time to be tinkered with, or even completely redone, with some of them not being touched since they were balanced for a game state that is long gone by. If we look at the last 10 champions released, counting Ekko, the last of those is Jinx, who was released in October 2013. No its not. Your first sentence is why people get frustrated when old champions aren't strong. Plus its a totally backwards design philosophy, because those champions are the reason LOL became popular. People want Ekko to fit into a meta defined by TF, Karthus, Anivia, Orianna, Veigar, Brand, etc NOT have those champions (their favorite champions) have to be fundamentally changed to fit into the Ekko meta. Of course, its much too late by the time of Ekko, but there is a reason Leblanc was forced to be terrible for the first 3 years of league. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
On May 31 2015 12:37 Slusher wrote: so far I"m getting our Ekko; their ekko syndrome, mabye I need to pick the hero up If you are a Fizz main as your profile indicates then Ekko is probably going to be the most fun you have had in a while. | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
Jungle: Rek'Sai, Sejuani, Gragas, Vi Mid: Basically whatever, just not Akali or Yasuo (Ekko is probably free elo right now) ADC: Kalista, Jinx, Sivir, Ezreal Support: Nautilus, Thresh, Janna, Braum, Annie | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
jungle: gragas reksai sejuani mid: azir cassiopeia, ekko? adc: kalista jynx ashe sivir support: alistar nautilus | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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France3460 Posts
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United States19143 Posts
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