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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
May 26 2015 16:08 GMT
#1561
Q. Who do you think are the best laners atm?
A. Koro / Clearlove / Pawn / Easyhoon / Deft / Yellowstar

Mata knows whats up o/
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
May 26 2015 16:25 GMT
#1562
Q. If you had rank each continent by each team's powers COMBINED, how would you rank them

A. Korea>China>Europe=SEA>North

but but but tsm
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 16:51:00
May 26 2015 16:30 GMT
#1563
Not that surprising he thinks that, the dredges of NA are god awful and probably always will be.

On the other hand I kind of doubt SEA is any deeper. Having a 0-21 team in an 8 team league is kind of a joke.

Although if you removed Coast from NA records last split would be like:

TSM 11-5
C9 10-6
CLG 10-6
Impulse 9-7

Yikes.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 26 2015 16:42 GMT
#1564
Taiwan was a four man race, probably three since HKES was pretty far behind TPA/Moe Flash Wolves/AHQ. This split might be better with machi's Koreans (oh lawdy lawd) and assassin sniper but I'm pretty sure Taiwan will be a three horse race.

If even three horse, starting to get scared TPA is falling behind Moe flash wolves and AHQ ~_~
Glorious SEA doto
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 16:48:56
May 26 2015 16:46 GMT
#1565
Obscurica nailed it pretty much.
A lot of TW soloqueue stars are banned for eloboosting and stuff, so scene can't be really deep but LPL/OGN scrim partners make stuff look better than it is. It's not like SEA ever lacked talents in any games they played but things like national service in Singapore always drag competitive gaming down.

If TPA is going to play like that, it's going to be 4-horse race for 3rd and we will be able to give out Worlds slots in July ~_~
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 26 2015 16:47 GMT
#1566
It's also a silly question to ask any one person because watching EU, NA, and Korea alone is would take up the time roughly equivalent to 6.4-7.6 games a day. Something nobody that is competing has time for.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 17:06:56
May 26 2015 16:50 GMT
#1567
On May 27 2015 00:20 AlterKot wrote:
Few years back I thought LoL would be in decline by now but I guess it took Overwatch longer than I thought to be developed and announced :>

Riot's done a good job of curtailing Western competitive disinterest through Asian dominance. Realistically, without the way Riot has structured the scene, consistent Korean dominance of international competition would have caused problems for Western competitive interest long ago.

First, the local isolation of the respective LCSs prevents Asian dominance from being too pervasive or relevant. And once the skill difference between regions reached a breaking point, they introduced import rules that allow enough players from better regions to come and raise the skill level, but not so many that they can form teams that don't "feel" like home region teams (it's actually pretty amazing how much support TSM gets as an "American" team when they're actually one of the least "American" rosters in NA LCS in the first place, thanks to being one of the teams that abused the 1 ENR + 2 NRs loophole last split).

EDIT: I realize my comment is heavily directed toward the competitive side of the game, but I'd assume that's what Mata meant by his 2-3 years projection, because suggesting that the game as a whole would burn out in 2-3 years is absolutely ridiculous.
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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
May 26 2015 17:04 GMT
#1568
That was weird. I was in a game of soloq, my headset (Astro A50s) was running low on battery so I plug them into the mixamp to charge them. It freezes my League and doesn't stop happening until I reboot my PC. Anyone ever encountered this?
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 26 2015 17:08 GMT
#1569
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 17:20:02
May 26 2015 17:19 GMT
#1570
pretty sure C9 going to sign Aphromoo once Lemonnation decides to retire
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 26 2015 17:27 GMT
#1571
On May 27 2015 02:08 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 23:17 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On May 26 2015 23:13 Ansibled wrote:
This is the best.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/37b0fl/matas_casual_korean_ama/


Highlights:


Q. Faker vs Pawn
A. Pawn

Pawn best mid confirmed.

Q. Will we ever get to see Imp/Mata bot lane again? Do you want to lane with Imp again?
A. I do, Imp is the most comfortable to me

Mata fraud carried by Imp confirmed.

Q. If you could choose between Imp and Deft who would you choose
A. Imp

Imp > Deft confirmed.

Q. What do you think of Loco's personality
A. This is my preference, but he's my type

Mata x Loco. I ship it.


for me

-Mata loves Yellowstar
-Mata wants to go to NA but nobody wants him apparently (or just can't afford him l0l)
-C9 Mata hype?
-SKT Mata hype?

Well, he also said that he while he didn't get any offers he couldn't contact the teams either.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 26 2015 18:29 GMT
#1572
On May 26 2015 23:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 23:44 Seuss wrote:
I think it's more likely LoL will follow a similar pattern to WoW.

By that measure we're in the middle of LoL's WotLK period.


I don't think they're comparable at all. For one LoL is much more popular worldwide than WoW was.


Well, plus, WoW really hasn't declined until very recently, and still is #1 in the MMORPG market, and Blizzard's #1 moneymaker. There is a massive perception of WoW declining following TBC because Sunwell and Wrath took too long to come out, which turned off a vocal set of people from raiding, people who never really got back into the bleeding-edge type raiding that made TBC great. But they have managed to maintain a huge casual raiding playerbase, and small competitive raiding/competitive arena playerbases. Its just a shitty game to spectate so you didn't have much interest in those communities.

2-3 more years of interest in the competitive scene isn't unreasonable, which is what Mata is concerned with.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 26 2015 18:32 GMT
#1573
On May 27 2015 02:19 Mensol wrote:
pretty sure C9 going to sign Aphromoo once Lemonnation decides to retire


If he gets over the playoff tilts he'll be a pretty good support.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 18:34:02
May 26 2015 18:33 GMT
#1574
On May 27 2015 03:32 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 02:19 Mensol wrote:
pretty sure C9 going to sign Aphromoo once Lemonnation decides to retire


If he gets over the playoff tilts he'll be a pretty good support.

Playing with players who don't choke(at least I can't recall them doing it) does help quite a bit in that area.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 26 2015 18:41 GMT
#1575
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 26 2015 18:46 GMT
#1576
On May 27 2015 03:29 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 23:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On May 26 2015 23:44 Seuss wrote:
I think it's more likely LoL will follow a similar pattern to WoW.

By that measure we're in the middle of LoL's WotLK period.


I don't think they're comparable at all. For one LoL is much more popular worldwide than WoW was.


Well, plus, WoW really hasn't declined until very recently, and still is #1 in the MMORPG market, and Blizzard's #1 moneymaker. There is a massive perception of WoW declining following TBC because Sunwell and Wrath took too long to come out, which turned off a vocal set of people from raiding, people who never really got back into the bleeding-edge type raiding that made TBC great. But they have managed to maintain a huge casual raiding playerbase, and small competitive raiding/competitive arena playerbases. Its just a shitty game to spectate so you didn't have much interest in those communities.

2-3 more years of interest in the competitive scene isn't unreasonable, which is what Mata is concerned with.


Eh, I think you're off the mark. It wasn't Sunwell/Wrath but the cessation of subscription milestones which lead to the narrative of "WoW in decline". Bleeding edge raiding never died.

Regardless it fits right into what I was trying to say. People are going to whine about and prognosticate LoL's decline/doom/end long before it's actually remotely close to any of that. We'd be constantly hearing about "LoL-killers" at this point if not for DotA 2 and LoL coexisting.

I'm obviously speaking in more general terms and competitive play is a different beast.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
May 26 2015 18:48 GMT
#1577
but at the same time, they don't choke because lemonnation is with them, helps with match preparation (lack of preparation is the main reason why teams choke in the first place) and is an untiltable player that will calm the team when shit hits the fan, who knows how c9 would look without him
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 26 2015 18:57 GMT
#1578
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 26 2015 18:59 GMT
#1579
On May 27 2015 03:57 krndandaman wrote:
holy shit, is anyone watching bjerg on qtpie/santorin's stream right now?
the dude's a fucking azir god

it'll probably be on reddit but watch the 1v5 nexus defense and the 3v5 penta kill

ya great example of riot balancing
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 19:05:02
May 26 2015 19:02 GMT
#1580
On May 27 2015 03:46 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 03:29 cLutZ wrote:
On May 26 2015 23:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On May 26 2015 23:44 Seuss wrote:
I think it's more likely LoL will follow a similar pattern to WoW.

By that measure we're in the middle of LoL's WotLK period.


I don't think they're comparable at all. For one LoL is much more popular worldwide than WoW was.


Well, plus, WoW really hasn't declined until very recently, and still is #1 in the MMORPG market, and Blizzard's #1 moneymaker. There is a massive perception of WoW declining following TBC because Sunwell and Wrath took too long to come out, which turned off a vocal set of people from raiding, people who never really got back into the bleeding-edge type raiding that made TBC great. But they have managed to maintain a huge casual raiding playerbase, and small competitive raiding/competitive arena playerbases. Its just a shitty game to spectate so you didn't have much interest in those communities.

2-3 more years of interest in the competitive scene isn't unreasonable, which is what Mata is concerned with.


Eh, I think you're off the mark. It wasn't Sunwell/Wrath but the cessation of subscription milestones which lead to the narrative of "WoW in decline". Bleeding edge raiding never died.

Regardless it fits right into what I was trying to say. People are going to whine about and prognosticate LoL's decline/doom/end long before it's actually remotely close to any of that. We'd be constantly hearing about "LoL-killers" at this point if not for DotA 2 and LoL coexisting.

I'm obviously speaking in more general terms and competitive play is a different beast.


I don't think we disagree, but I just didn't/don't have the right word for the subset of "raiders" that weren't at the Curse/EJ/Kungen level but basically raided continually from Kara/Grull up through Illidan, and despite being "months behind" beat endgame content with Illidan, and may or may not have beaten Kil Jaden. Obviously the sub peak is a different time period, but I mostly see people complaining about the "golden age" of WoW almost all appear to be people who's guilds broke up during that time. But, if it had come out in time, those same people would have loved Firefighter and other tough achievements.

Edit: Of which Lol doesn't have much of a parallel, because its unlikely that 80% of the Diamond 1-5 players will all the sudden not be good anymore.
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