EPTno tie breaker then?
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
no tie breaker then? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35144 Posts
On May 20 2015 07:29 Slusher wrote: if one jungler gives blue and one doesn't in a skill match up where the players are comprable it can win the lane straight up And I've seen people straight up get spanked in lane against matchups that are clicker level in their favor. Soloq is a crapshoot when it comes to perfect play. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35144 Posts
Correct. | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
On May 20 2015 07:37 Gahlo wrote: And I've seen people straight up get spanked in lane against matchups that are clicker level in their favor. Soloq is a crapshoot when it comes to perfect play. Ding ding ding. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On May 20 2015 07:37 Gahlo wrote: And I've seen people straight up get spanked in lane against matchups that are clicker level in their favor. Soloq is a crapshoot when it comes to perfect play. So? Advantages are advantages. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. But that doesn't mean you deny your laners advantage they need to win lane just because sometimes they lose. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35144 Posts
On May 20 2015 07:48 Goumindong wrote: So? Advantages are advantages. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. But that doesn't mean you deny your laners advantage they need to win lane just because sometimes they lose. If they are flat out getting smashed in lanes they are favorable in, all me giving blue to them will do is make a tidy transfer along with a chunk of gold to the other mid. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
On May 20 2015 07:49 Gahlo wrote: If they are flat out getting smashed in lanes they are favorable in, all me giving blue to them will do is make a tidy transfer along with a chunk of gold to the other mid. People like you are the reason why no one likes to play solo queue. | ||
Harem
United States11390 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
1) The laner does not want/need it 2) The laner does not come and get it "but he's losing" isn't really an acceptable excuse unless he is losing so hard he literally cannot do anything. But again, different rules apply when someone is useless | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On May 20 2015 07:51 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: People like you are the reason why no one likes to play solo queue. u have to be kidding me if somebody is getting smashed 0-3 in lane before 10 minute demands 2nd blue i will laugh while smiting it | ||
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Gahlo
United States35144 Posts
On May 20 2015 07:55 Goumindong wrote: In lane there are a few times that the laner should not get the buff 1) The laner does not want/need it 2) The laner does not come and get it "but he's losing" isn't really an acceptable excuse unless he is losing so hard he literally cannot do anything. But again, different rules apply when someone is useless Yeah, that's what I've been saying the entire time. On May 20 2015 07:51 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: People like you are the reason why no one likes to play solo queue. Can't be, I have Santa Baron. =] | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
(Unless you're Rek'sai or something, in which case, give it to somebody else but him, of course...) | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On May 20 2015 07:51 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: People like you are the reason why no one likes to play solo queue. Actually this is a legit reason wtf a laner behind behind means: -->he's much more likely to lose a 1v1 -->he's much more likely to get gankd -->he's much more likely to not be able to roam or get killed if he does roam around the map unless its one of those matchups that are super skillshot dependent or needs mana specfically to safely farm then its a very good reason to keep blue its not like you don't benefit from bleu as a jungler. You can clear faster while still keeping gank pressure you won't have if you are a champ which runs out of mana when a lot of them do. I mean if I have orianna mid for example I'd probably give blue but if its fizz? no thanks. Any champ against leblanc definitely reconsider giving blue because its just a transfer to LB considering how easy it is for her to get kills solo or otherwise | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On May 20 2015 08:22 Caiada wrote: Best way to climb til like Gold 1 is acknowledging that either a) my whole team can't be expected to do anything, and I have to carry these fuckers via brute force, or b) I fucked up, am now a fucker, and have to get carried, so let it happen. If you're jungle and your mid is feeding his ass off from pride or sheer incompetence, he does not get a blue. (Unless you're Rek'sai or something, in which case, give it to somebody else but him, of course...) Got Gold I less than a week ago. I play Braum or Nautilus mainly, and I let people do most of the job while I just make sure they can. The "I gotta carry these scrubs" is just a shit idea and perpetuating this mindset is not really conducive to improvement. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On May 20 2015 08:26 Slayer91 wrote: Actually this is a legit reason wtf a laner behind behind means: -->he's much more likely to lose a 1v1 -->he's much more likely to get gankd -->he's much more likely to not be able to roam or get killed if he does roam around the map unless its one of those matchups that are super skillshot dependent or needs mana specfically to safely farm then its a very good reason to keep blue its not like you don't benefit from bleu as a jungler. You can clear faster while still keeping gank pressure you won't have if you are a champ which runs out of mana when a lot of them do. I mean if I have orianna mid for example I'd probably give blue but if its fizz? no thanks. Any champ against leblanc definitely reconsider giving blue because its just a transfer to LB considering how easy it is for her to get kills solo or otherwise It depends on the matchup. If your mid is a Fizz like you mentioned, its likely that they can't avoid fighting and giving the blue when they're too far behind is giving it to the enemy team. In that situation I'll take blue, or give it but then immediately gank mid to make sure they can keep it. If your mid is a cancer long range mid like Lux or Ziggs or Xerath, giving them blue often means they will stop dying because they can now cancerfarm from a screen away and don't have to engage the enemy champ at all. Edit: oh you said all that shit format your fucking posts teut lol | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
OK... | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On May 20 2015 08:09 Gahlo wrote: Yeah, that's what I've been saying the entire time. Maybe you think that is what you were saying but that is not how the conversation went. If you want to follow along here is the explanation On May 20 2015 07:49 Gahlo wrote: If they are flat out getting smashed in lanes they are favorable in, all me giving blue to them will do is make a tidy transfer along with a chunk of gold to the other mid. non-sequitor to the conversation that implies your laner has already lost so hard by the time you get to second blue they literally cannot stand in lane without dying On May 20 2015 08:26 Slayer91 wrote: Actually this is a legit reason wtf a laner behind behind means: [edited for space] This is just the worst though "My mid laner is behind, better make sure they don't have the tools to get ahead and/or keep themselves from falling further behind" | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 20 2015 08:32 Alaric wrote: Got Gold I less than a week ago. I play Braum or Nautilus mainly, and I let people do most of the job while I just make sure they can. The "I gotta carry these scrubs" is just a shit idea and perpetuating this mindset is not really conducive to improvement. It really depends, if you're 5-0 in botlane while your top and mid are bother 0-10 combined, then you best put on your liftlift pants. | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
On May 20 2015 08:32 Alaric wrote: Got Gold I less than a week ago. I play Braum or Nautilus mainly, and I let people do most of the job while I just make sure they can. The "I gotta carry these scrubs" is just a shit idea and perpetuating this mindset is not really conducive to improvement. That's pretty much how I got to diamond. (other champs, but same mindset) | ||
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