Regarding Ashe, I have a bunch of one off thoughts:
Volley still applies Frost Shot, which makes it likely that a single Volley at a creep wave is all she needs to get a full stack of Focus for Q. That's going to make her laning phase interesting.
The flat +20% slow boost when activating Ranger's Focus, combined with auto-scaling on passive Frost Shot, is scary. Pre-6 Ashe will be able to slow somebody as if she had Rank 4 Q, which is pretty big for assisting ganks.
10% additional damage on autos starting at level 1 is a pretty big deal, especially with how easy it is to apply Frost Shot.
I think Ashe is a super cool champion who plays differently than other ADCs, and am thrilled at the idea of an Ashe who has the same identity but is good in modern League.
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On April 30 2015 00:34 LightningStrike wrote: You forgot to put the patch notes in the op :O
After talking it thru with Lunar-chan, I've decided to stop copy/pasting the patch note contents into the OP. It was never as simple as copy/pasting the code over. Often times Lunar or I would have to go in and edit the code so it wouldn't break the page formatting here on LL.net. We ultimately decided to cut that part out of the OP since it wasn't really worth the struggle every time and leave the link to the official Riot patch notes instead.
Is the new black cleaver going to be any good on attack speed characters that can really apply on hit effects fast? Tiger Udyr? - 400 health also works well with cinder hulk Nocturne? Skarner? - 400 health also works well with cinder hulk
On April 30 2015 01:08 Ketara wrote: I think Ashe is a super cool champion who plays differently than other ADCs, and am thrilled at the idea of an Ashe who has the same identity but is good in modern League.
This has been a post by TL's official Riot apologist.
On April 30 2015 01:58 General_Winter wrote: Is the new black cleaver going to be any good on attack speed characters that can really apply on hit effects fast? Tiger Udyr? - 400 health also works well with cinder hulk Nocturne? Skarner? - 400 health also works well with cinder hulk
xin zhao wukong on hit effects arent good wtf you want someone with high AD so that they can spam low cd ad spells and wreck
udyr isnt a target with high sticking potential but the stats are so good it might still be okay on him top lane i guess udyr can insta stack it would be okay vs mass tanks
On April 30 2015 01:02 Seuss wrote: Regarding Ashe, I have a bunch of one off thoughts:
Volley still applies Frost Shot, which makes it likely that a single Volley at a creep wave is all she needs to get a full stack of Focus for Q. That's going to make her laning phase interesting.
The flat +20% slow boost when activating Ranger's Focus, combined with auto-scaling on passive Frost Shot, is scary. Pre-6 Ashe will be able to slow somebody as if she had Rank 4 Q, which is pretty big for assisting ganks.
10% additional damage on autos starting at level 1 is a pretty big deal, especially with how easy it is to apply Frost Shot.
We'll see how this shakes out.
Yeah. I think she'll like long drawn out trades with a champion like Nami. Start a fight, eat the pokes, then extend the trade til enemy abilities back up with the onhit slow Then you just use your range and slow to disengage.
On April 30 2015 00:34 LightningStrike wrote: You forgot to put the patch notes in the op :O
After talking it thru with Lunar-chan, I've decided to stop copy/pasting the patch note contents into the OP. It was never as simple as copy/pasting the code over. Often times Lunar or I would have to go in and edit the code so it wouldn't break the page formatting here on LL.net. We ultimately decided to cut that part out of the OP since it wasn't really worth the struggle every time and leave the link to the official Riot patch notes instead.
On April 30 2015 00:34 LightningStrike wrote: You forgot to put the patch notes in the op :O
After talking it thru with Lunar-chan, I've decided to stop copy/pasting the patch note contents into the OP. It was never as simple as copy/pasting the code over. Often times Lunar or I would have to go in and edit the code so it wouldn't break the page formatting here on LL.net. We ultimately decided to cut that part out of the OP since it wasn't really worth the struggle every time and leave the link to the official Riot patch notes instead.
sad about this because whenever I needed to look up patchchanges I would go to this thread, open the spoiler and ctrl+f the champion. Appreciate the effort though.
On April 30 2015 00:34 LightningStrike wrote: You forgot to put the patch notes in the op :O
After talking it thru with Lunar-chan, I've decided to stop copy/pasting the patch note contents into the OP. It was never as simple as copy/pasting the code over. Often times Lunar or I would have to go in and edit the code so it wouldn't break the page formatting here on LL.net. We ultimately decided to cut that part out of the OP since it wasn't really worth the struggle every time and leave the link to the official Riot patch notes instead.
sad about this because whenever I needed to look up patchchanges I would go to this thread, open the spoiler and ctrl+f the champion. Appreciate the effort though.
You can still do the ctrl+f on the Riot page. ;;
On April 30 2015 02:50 nobodywonder wrote: hey guys, I've been making a Janna guide. I was wondering whether I should make a new Janna strategy thread or maybe get ownership of the old thread.
So... With Runaan's when you pop the Q it applies the bonus damage through the Runaan bolts too (not to mention the 10 free damage Runaan has now)? That's what it looked like to me.
If so, You go something like IE/BT > Runaan > LW > BC and just watch their front line get decimated after losing their armor in 1 Q-boosted AA?
my thoughts on pbe ashe: the new, relatively small steroids will be noticable and welcome. but the big thing is that her slow doesn't cost mana anymore. during the laneing phase you can't spam frost shot atm because it would drain your mana pool too quickly. the poke, kiting and chaining cc ability will be very strong i assume.
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sad about this because whenever I needed to look up patchchanges I would go to this thread, open the spoiler and ctrl+f the champion. Appreciate the effort though. 
