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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 29 2015 16:02 GMT
#121
Regarding Ashe, I have a bunch of one off thoughts:

  • Volley still applies Frost Shot, which makes it likely that a single Volley at a creep wave is all she needs to get a full stack of Focus for Q. That's going to make her laning phase interesting.
  • The flat +20% slow boost when activating Ranger's Focus, combined with auto-scaling on passive Frost Shot, is scary. Pre-6 Ashe will be able to slow somebody as if she had Rank 4 Q, which is pretty big for assisting ganks.
  • 10% additional damage on autos starting at level 1 is a pretty big deal, especially with how easy it is to apply Frost Shot.


We'll see how this shakes out.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 29 2015 16:08 GMT
#122
I think Ashe is a super cool champion who plays differently than other ADCs, and am thrilled at the idea of an Ashe who has the same identity but is good in modern League.

This has been a post by TL's official Riot apologist.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
April 29 2015 16:18 GMT
#123
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 29 2015 16:29 GMT
#124
On April 30 2015 00:34 LightningStrike wrote:
You forgot to put the patch notes in the op :O

After talking it thru with Lunar-chan, I've decided to stop copy/pasting the patch note contents into the OP. It was never as simple as copy/pasting the code over. Often times Lunar or I would have to go in and edit the code so it wouldn't break the page formatting here on LL.net. We ultimately decided to cut that part out of the OP since it wasn't really worth the struggle every time and leave the link to the official Riot patch notes instead.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
April 29 2015 16:58 GMT
#125
Is the new black cleaver going to be any good on attack speed characters that can really apply on hit effects fast?
Tiger Udyr? - 400 health also works well with cinder hulk
Nocturne?
Skarner? - 400 health also works well with cinder hulk
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 29 2015 17:20 GMT
#126
On April 30 2015 01:08 Ketara wrote:
I think Ashe is a super cool champion who plays differently than other ADCs, and am thrilled at the idea of an Ashe who has the same identity but is good in modern League.

This has been a post by TL's official Riot apologist.

Well, at least you know.
Freeeeeeedom
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-29 17:32:13
April 29 2015 17:26 GMT
#127
On April 30 2015 01:58 General_Winter wrote:
Is the new black cleaver going to be any good on attack speed characters that can really apply on hit effects fast?
Tiger Udyr? - 400 health also works well with cinder hulk
Nocturne?
Skarner? - 400 health also works well with cinder hulk


xin zhao wukong
on hit effects arent good wtf
you want someone with high AD so that they can spam low cd ad spells and wreck

udyr isnt a target with high sticking potential but the stats are so good it might still be okay on him top lane
i guess udyr can insta stack it would be okay vs mass tanks



nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 29 2015 17:31 GMT
#128
On April 30 2015 00:57 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 00:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/349yc4/hidden_patch_notes_58/

"If Morgana use spellshield on CC that does more damage than her shield, the CC will apply."

This is huge if intended o.O Major Morgana nerf.

Riot has made statements in the past that they don't ninja nerf/buff anything, so I doubt it's intended.

Riot said caitlyn bug was fixed.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 29 2015 17:35 GMT
#129
On April 30 2015 01:02 Seuss wrote:
Regarding Ashe, I have a bunch of one off thoughts:

  • Volley still applies Frost Shot, which makes it likely that a single Volley at a creep wave is all she needs to get a full stack of Focus for Q. That's going to make her laning phase interesting.
  • The flat +20% slow boost when activating Ranger's Focus, combined with auto-scaling on passive Frost Shot, is scary. Pre-6 Ashe will be able to slow somebody as if she had Rank 4 Q, which is pretty big for assisting ganks.
  • 10% additional damage on autos starting at level 1 is a pretty big deal, especially with how easy it is to apply Frost Shot.


We'll see how this shakes out.


Yeah. I think she'll like long drawn out trades with a champion like Nami. Start a fight, eat the pokes, then extend the trade til enemy abilities back up with the onhit slow Then you just use your range and slow to disengage.

Different play style for sure.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
April 29 2015 17:37 GMT
#130
On April 30 2015 00:44 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 00:34 LightningStrike wrote:
You forgot to put the patch notes in the op :O

? Patch notes are there from the very beggining of new thread. Just click "Patch 5.8".

Okay didn't know thanks!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
April 29 2015 17:40 GMT
#131
On April 30 2015 01:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 00:34 LightningStrike wrote:
You forgot to put the patch notes in the op :O

After talking it thru with Lunar-chan, I've decided to stop copy/pasting the patch note contents into the OP. It was never as simple as copy/pasting the code over. Often times Lunar or I would have to go in and edit the code so it wouldn't break the page formatting here on LL.net. We ultimately decided to cut that part out of the OP since it wasn't really worth the struggle every time and leave the link to the official Riot patch notes instead.

Oh sounds reasonable.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 29 2015 17:47 GMT
#132
On April 30 2015 01:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 00:34 LightningStrike wrote:
You forgot to put the patch notes in the op :O

After talking it thru with Lunar-chan, I've decided to stop copy/pasting the patch note contents into the OP. It was never as simple as copy/pasting the code over. Often times Lunar or I would have to go in and edit the code so it wouldn't break the page formatting here on LL.net. We ultimately decided to cut that part out of the OP since it wasn't really worth the struggle every time and leave the link to the official Riot patch notes instead.


sad about this because whenever I needed to look up patchchanges I would go to this thread, open the spoiler and ctrl+f the champion. Appreciate the effort though.
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
April 29 2015 17:50 GMT
#133
hey guys, I've been making a Janna guide. I was wondering whether I should make a new Janna strategy thread or maybe get ownership of the old thread.
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 29 2015 17:59 GMT
#134
On April 30 2015 02:47 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 01:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
On April 30 2015 00:34 LightningStrike wrote:
You forgot to put the patch notes in the op :O

After talking it thru with Lunar-chan, I've decided to stop copy/pasting the patch note contents into the OP. It was never as simple as copy/pasting the code over. Often times Lunar or I would have to go in and edit the code so it wouldn't break the page formatting here on LL.net. We ultimately decided to cut that part out of the OP since it wasn't really worth the struggle every time and leave the link to the official Riot patch notes instead.


sad about this because whenever I needed to look up patchchanges I would go to this thread, open the spoiler and ctrl+f the champion. Appreciate the effort though.

You can still do the ctrl+f on the Riot page. ;;

On April 30 2015 02:50 nobodywonder wrote:
hey guys, I've been making a Janna guide. I was wondering whether I should make a new Janna strategy thread or maybe get ownership of the old thread.

You can make a new thread.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
April 29 2015 18:02 GMT
#135
On April 29 2015 19:20 justiceknight wrote:


So... With Runaan's when you pop the Q it applies the bonus damage through the Runaan bolts too (not to mention the 10 free damage Runaan has now)? That's what it looked like to me.

If so, You go something like IE/BT > Runaan > LW > BC and just watch their front line get decimated after losing their armor in 1 Q-boosted AA?
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
April 29 2015 18:09 GMT
#136
Riot said the Morgana thing was unintended and that they're fixing it.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 29 2015 18:38 GMT
#137
Runaan's will fire secondary bolts for each shot of the volley. Iirc they'll do the "50% of your AD" fixed damage too.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
April 29 2015 18:39 GMT
#138
my thoughts on pbe ashe: the new, relatively small steroids will be noticable and welcome. but the big thing is that her slow doesn't cost mana anymore. during the laneing phase you can't spam frost shot atm because it would drain your mana pool too quickly. the poke, kiting and chaining cc ability will be very strong i assume.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
April 29 2015 18:54 GMT
#139
Can't wait to get home and play Olaf. BC/Glory rush will be interesting...
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-29 19:13:29
April 29 2015 19:09 GMT
#140
I will try this jungle Garen thing and see how it goes.

edit: Well I would if I could connect to the game but I can't.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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