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[Patch 5.8] Ryze Rework General Discussion - Page 8

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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
April 29 2015 19:30 GMT
#141
think i would rather have gp in my team than ryze, this champion seems worthless
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 29 2015 19:31 GMT
#142
scaling cd reduction or -2.5% cd reduction, which one is better?
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DrunkenOne
Profile Joined August 2012
United States302 Posts
April 29 2015 19:32 GMT
#143
just went cinderhulk->randuins->spirit visage->BC->RG on jungle garen and wound up with over 5k hp. Was way ahead otherwise RG probably would have been thornmail but going super fast was great and the huge healthpool and regen were hilarious.
Yarr?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 29 2015 19:35 GMT
#144
Garen doesn't even clear that bad, and he's got plenty of damage if he reaches his targets. He just needs your lanes not to be Vlad and the level not to be too high (no idea what my normal Elo was at the time) and he can at least coast by.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 29 2015 19:50 GMT
#145


garen jungle confirmed
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nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
April 29 2015 19:53 GMT
#146
Well it seems BC isn't good on ADC's. Imaqtpie tried BC on blue Ezreal. He literally did no damage lol.The CDR is nice, but doesn't matter since you just don't do damage. lol

Saw Saint get executed as jungle Garen. Seems like some jungle paths don't work according to Saint. Oh old man Saint.
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DrunkenOne
Profile Joined August 2012
United States302 Posts
April 29 2015 19:55 GMT
#147
The first clear is pretty terrible because spin does basically nothing to large monsters so all you have is an aa reset on a long cd, and probably aren't running AS runes.
Yarr?
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-29 20:22:45
April 29 2015 19:57 GMT
#148
I tried Garen and didn't really like it much though I did well in game.

He does a lot of damage if you go BC but he doesn't really seem very worthwhile until like level 9 so I'm not sure how much I like him as a jungler. It feels like going against Lee Sin, Gragas, RekSai would just make you lose too much early.

Ryze seems strong but I haven't played it.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
April 29 2015 19:58 GMT
#149
On April 30 2015 04:53 nobodywonder wrote:
Well it seems BC isn't good on ADC's. Imaqtpie tried BC on blue Ezreal. He literally did no damage lol.The CDR is nice, but doesn't matter since you just don't do damage. lol

Saw Saint get executed as jungle Garen. Seems like some jungle paths don't work according to Saint. Oh old man Saint.

I mean... didn't we learn that when the reworked it in S3? lol
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 29 2015 20:24 GMT
#150
On April 30 2015 04:53 nobodywonder wrote:
Well it seems BC isn't good on ADC's. Imaqtpie tried BC on blue Ezreal. He literally did no damage lol.The CDR is nice, but doesn't matter since you just don't do damage. lol

Saw Saint get executed as jungle Garen. Seems like some jungle paths don't work according to Saint. Oh old man Saint.

Well blue ez takes a while to ramp up anyways, core is ibg, muramana, lw. With botrk buff, pretty sure you want botrk over bt most of them time, maybe bc over mecurial scmitar as last item?
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 29 2015 20:35 GMT
#151
Just played against new Ryze, granted, it was Galio. Turns out he can regularly trigger his passive in lane since the stacks last pretty long, so I'm not sure about the damage (and whenever he used his E I only saw it because of the MR debuff swirl under my model, good job Riot), but the shield gets pretty annoying to deal with if you're trying to trade often. x)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 29 2015 20:35 GMT
#152
On April 30 2015 05:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 04:53 nobodywonder wrote:
Well it seems BC isn't good on ADC's. Imaqtpie tried BC on blue Ezreal. He literally did no damage lol.The CDR is nice, but doesn't matter since you just don't do damage. lol

Saw Saint get executed as jungle Garen. Seems like some jungle paths don't work according to Saint. Oh old man Saint.

Well blue ez takes a while to ramp up anyways, core is ibg, muramana, lw. With botrk buff, pretty sure you want botrk over bt most of them time, maybe bc over mecurial scmitar as last item?


Giving out qss and 40 damage for useless armor shred on blue Ezreal and additional 20% to 25% cdr + blue buffs? I call not worth.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 29 2015 20:49 GMT
#153
On April 30 2015 05:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 05:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 30 2015 04:53 nobodywonder wrote:
Well it seems BC isn't good on ADC's. Imaqtpie tried BC on blue Ezreal. He literally did no damage lol.The CDR is nice, but doesn't matter since you just don't do damage. lol

Saw Saint get executed as jungle Garen. Seems like some jungle paths don't work according to Saint. Oh old man Saint.

Well blue ez takes a while to ramp up anyways, core is ibg, muramana, lw. With botrk buff, pretty sure you want botrk over bt most of them time, maybe bc over mecurial scmitar as last item?


Giving out qss and 40 damage for useless armor shred on blue Ezreal and additional 20% to 25% cdr + blue buffs? I call not worth.

Might be worth if you can get merc treads instead of ionian.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 29 2015 20:49 GMT
#154
Why do you need tenacity on blue ez???
MagnusWolf
Profile Joined November 2011
United States483 Posts
April 29 2015 20:50 GMT
#155
the new ryze ult+e works like the old AP tristana. If someone is standing in a big wave of minions or just clumped up really hard it does a million damage
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
April 29 2015 20:55 GMT
#156
On April 30 2015 05:49 nafta wrote:
Why do you need tenacity on blue ez???

It's more of "If I'm already getting this thing that overcaps me on CDR, what CDR can I get rid of?"
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-29 20:56:29
April 29 2015 20:55 GMT
#157
On April 30 2015 05:49 nafta wrote:
Why do you need tenacity on blue ez???

Random cc landing, more or less a riskier version of why people get qss on blue ez, except now you get some more apen with bc. I'm not saying this is the 'new' blue build, I'm just suggesting where people could insert it into the build and why they might want to.
liftlift > tsm
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-29 21:18:39
April 29 2015 21:18 GMT
#158
On April 30 2015 05:55 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 05:49 nafta wrote:
Why do you need tenacity on blue ez???

Random cc landing, more or less a riskier version of why people get qss on blue ez, except now you get some more apen with bc. I'm not saying this is the 'new' blue build, I'm just suggesting where people could insert it into the build and why they might want to.


Can we just agree on "black cleaver is shit on all adcs" and move on, lol.
Instead of theorycrafting about bloody blue Ezreal who is useless in 99% of situations.
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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
April 29 2015 21:21 GMT
#159
On April 30 2015 06:18 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 05:55 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 30 2015 05:49 nafta wrote:
Why do you need tenacity on blue ez???

Random cc landing, more or less a riskier version of why people get qss on blue ez, except now you get some more apen with bc. I'm not saying this is the 'new' blue build, I'm just suggesting where people could insert it into the build and why they might want to.


Can we just agree on "black cleaver is shit on all adcs" and move on, lol.
Instead of theorycrafting about bloody blue Ezreal who is useless in 99% of situations.


It MIGHT be good on Varus, but that's probably the only ADC that would benefit from it (assuming you go Legolas Varus and just look to poke people with max range Qs when you have 400 AD).
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 29 2015 21:25 GMT
#160
Garen jungle is strictly worse than Darius jungle, by a lot.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
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