EPTThe only thing I can really say though is that his ult's passive is a trap inviting people to wait until level 16 to cap CDR via runes/masteries. Ryze is way better when you're capped before then.
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
The only thing I can really say though is that his ult's passive is a trap inviting people to wait until level 16 to cap CDR via runes/masteries. Ryze is way better when you're capped before then. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35130 Posts
On May 07 2015 02:58 Jek wrote: I think Tear sucks on him now, his mana scaling is lower but his AP scaling his higher. Doran's or Flask/Pots into RoA rush have been working out much better for me. FH is still fantastic and Athene's have been doing some serious work too, since you burn through mana at an insanely high rate now during teamfights. It's hilarious how with proper rotations and mana recovery (yay Athene's) he can nearly stay in ult and spam trigger his passive doing prolonged fights with multiple Q's in the air at the same time. Really really hate his Q's hitbox, it's so silly small. All the wasted CDR. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
SSW and card skin splash arts out, pretty neat | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
Just ignore the CDR stat on items for him, in 99.99% games you want a FH and it overcaps your CDR on it's own eventually and the ultimates strength is it's active anyway. Basically the same principle as when you need a Morello or buy blue pot on energy/resourceless APs, you get some stats you dont need but the item is still solid. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On May 07 2015 03:51 Jek wrote: Just ignore the CDR stat on items for him, in 99.99% games you want a FH and it overcaps your CDR on it's own eventually and the ultimates strength is it's active anyway. Basically the same principle as when you need a Morello or buy blue pot on energy/resourceless APs, you get some stats you dont need but the item is still solid. I sort of agree, but building +40% CDR on items is probably overkill, especially if one of the items is Athene's. Tear/AA seems like a much better choice to pair with FH+RoA. Using extremely conservative numbers (i.e. Ryze at level 11 with a completely unstacked AA) you're looking at 45 additional damage on Q alone for having AA instead of Athene's. At full level/stacks the damage difference goes up to 95 damage, again that's Q alone. You also get an active shield and additional strength on your passive shield. The only thing Athene's gives that Ryze build that AA doesn't is 25 MR. I'm all for building some CDR on Ryze since waiting for level 16 to cap isn't worthwhile, but I don't think Athene's makes sense when you've already built RoA and FH. | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On May 05 2015 15:57 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Found a glorious picture from 4 years ago + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/p3EsP.png) Hanyuyu Karthus, never forget. I too must jump on the old picture bandwagon + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/f9CONZh.png) god I miss old league of legends | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On May 07 2015 06:12 AsnSensation wrote: Can someone TLDR what champion mastery are? similar to race xp from sc, you get points towards minor visual rewards for wins, more for having a lot of kills or cs or something | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
plus, he just seems like a champion that would make for fun-to-watch games. EDIT: also does anyone else feel like MSI is a weird name given that MSI has sponsored high-profile league tournaments in the past? | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
the classic, Genja buries them alive with MF, CHaox makes a vlog about how op MF is, and then they played mf every game for like 2 months this is pre curse of the sad bullet time MF, like, with a cast time on her ult. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35130 Posts
On May 07 2015 06:20 Eiii wrote: I'm convinced there's going to be some bard at MSI. Even if he's really awkward to play, his q and r are just seem too strong for some team not to pull him out at least for something cheesy. plus, he just seems like a champion that would make for fun-to-watch games. EDIT: also does anyone else feel like MSI is a weird name given that MSI has sponsored high-profile league tournaments in the past? Yeah, I feel like they made up the name of the tournament and just said fuck it. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On May 07 2015 06:37 nafta wrote: My problem with bard is most teams don't really ban supports so unless someone just feels like playing him he just gets outclassed.The unholy cancer trio of janna/thresh/morg is still going strong joined by naut. Has has some really specific unique strengths over all those other supports, so it's ok if most of the time he isn't picked because they are "generally stronger", he can still fit in a custom made teamcomp and be mega strong. | ||
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ParadeofMadness
United Kingdom1027 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 07 2015 07:25 ParadeofMadness wrote: I still havent broken my 100% lose rate on bard, in lane I feel I get outraded as his mana costs are unbelivable, like old anivia level and he is squishy as fuck. Maxing E second helps but yeah it still becomes trololololol becuase you lost lane so hard Mana's not so bad if you get lucky with chime locations early on in game. His W costs are pretty ridiculous. I almost always prep 1 or 2 heal shrines before I go chime hunting or back. | ||
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