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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On December 12 2014 11:50 iCanada wrote: Is there consensus on what to build/rune from the jungle nowadays? Or is it still kind of up in the air? Anything exciting develop in the last month while I havn't played LoL at all? For what champion? | ||
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kongoline
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On December 12 2014 13:24 kongoline wrote: is it me or jungling feels miserable on this patch, seems like i never have hp to gank early game and midgame im weaker/behind exp to solo laners Oo Welcome to S5 jungle. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On December 12 2014 13:30 krndandaman wrote: its why im considering taking flask on some junglers. so annoying having to back after like 1 gank and 2 camps every time That's a lot of gold for a "potion slot" when you can just leave a little monster up and have it attack you for machete regen. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
Fucking CC buffering is stupid, especially when it comes to pro play. It's so stupid to chain CC somebody and just have them ignore it. But Riot doesn't give a fuck because it fixed an issue for people with "high latency", where high is probably like 200+. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 12 2014 13:30 krndandaman wrote: its why im considering taking flask on some junglers. so annoying having to back after like 1 gank and 2 camps every time what? you're almost always better off buying 1 or 2 health pots every time you back.. which is way cheaper than flask, since you only need to do it only the first couple of times. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
What's with Riot's new champions? Almost all the recent ones haven't made me feel like playing as them. So a ganker with slow damage output and zero sticking power? With an ult that's basically just a teleport? Pantheon does everything better, no? | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On December 12 2014 12:55 Ryuu314 wrote: I wish Riot did more with his burrowed "form." It'd be cool if his tremor sense or w/e it's called had a larger range; losing vision and not being able to identify targets/still targets keeps it from being too op. He could also do with a bit more mobility in burrowed form imo; +15 movespeed is next to nothing since he has absolutely no CC outside of his knockup. The crappy part about her, is that she's really good at jumping between burrowed and unburrowed to use her whole kit, and its a strength for the champ to do so, but she loses out on true damage E in most situations that way, and also there is a .7? cooldown on her next form's abilities whenever she burrows/unburrows. and it kinda feels terrible. can you imagine if jayce or nidalee had those problems? | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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MagnusWolf
United States483 Posts
On December 12 2014 13:24 kongoline wrote: is it me or jungling feels miserable on this patch, seems like i never have hp to gank early game and midgame im weaker/behind exp to solo laners Oo just do red with someone like j4 and lvl 2 gank, back and buy rangers and then youre good to go for the rest of the game. Thats whaat ive been doing at tleast | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 12 2014 13:59 krndandaman wrote: flask pays for itself in about 7 charges if you only count the health portion. I definitely make at least 3 trips back with 2-3 pots so I don't see how it would be bad on some junglers. also, the problem isn't if its cost efficient or not because it is. the main problem with flask is you have to drop 345g in one go instead of increments of 35g for pots. because of how important it is to rush your jungle item, this is the main drawback to flask. that's not even a fair comparison, cuz your first back is always gunna be machete upgrade + pots, so you have to add those 2nd trip pots cost to it. there's no way you can get flask + machete upgrade (unless you're ranged jungler who takes no damage doing jungle). strictly speaking pots are better than flask by quite a bit. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Like... in general. What preforms best, AS? AD? full retard resists? That's what I mean. Lol. Like if I were to make 1 rune page for 80% of all jungles, what should it be? | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On December 12 2014 14:24 MagnusWolf wrote: just do red with someone like j4 and lvl 2 gank, back and buy rangers and then youre good to go for the rest of the game. Thats whaat ive been doing at tleast Please MagnusWolf I love you but this is terrible advice. lvl2 ganks can work at times but it's not at all something to be done routinely, for it to be worth you need to kill the enemy laner which is really really hard even with dudes like jarvan, because they can usually just flash away. Never having HP to gank early game is definitely a thing in jungle now. Not ganking before first back is definitely standard now. It's a good idea to be stocked up on hp pots regardless of what jungler you're playing, even if you plan on only farming, having them in inventory will give you an option of popping them and ganking if you see an unexpected opportunity. I often buy 3hp pots on my 2nd back and not end up using them, but the extra option of popping them is totally worth. Make sure you PvE correctly. Kiting the blue, red and golems (with some junglers) can help your hp bar a ton. You are going to be weaker than solo lanes in the mid and lategame, but it shouldn't be by too much. Make sure your farming paths are efficient (no unnecessary walking around in the jungle) and when in doubt, farm the jungle. On December 12 2014 14:34 iCanada wrote: Like... in general. What preforms best, AS? AD? full retard resists? That's what I mean. Lol. Like if I were to make 1 rune page for 80% of all jungles, what should it be? If you had to make 1 rune page for all junglers, go AD reds, attack speed quints, armor yellows, flat CDR blues. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 12 2014 14:37 krndandaman wrote: even disregarding 2 pots at first back, you don't get more than 6 pots after that? for ex. in my last game as jarvan jungle, I got 6 pots excluding the 2 I got with machete upgrade by the 12 minute mark. I'm not 100% for flask (I haven't even tried it yet) but it does seem worth it situationally. its worth considering at the very least. I think the most pots I get is maybe 4 after that? 2 pots for each back, by then you should either be a)tanky enough that they don't do much damage to you, b) do enough damage that they don't have time to do damage to you, or c) you have enough sustain that it doesn't matter. also always getting the smite off of krugg is always important in staying high, that or always smiting red. Both will make sure you're healthy doing jungle. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On December 12 2014 14:34 iCanada wrote: Like... in general. What preforms best, AS? AD? full retard resists? That's what I mean. Lol. Like if I were to make 1 rune page for 80% of all jungles, what should it be? Assuming all AD based junglers, 3AS quints, mix AS/AD red, armor yellow, and for blues, CDR(/lvl), mr/lvl. Works for most champs. Also I would personally never gank on first back* exceptions are when I get invade FB and start jungle with jungle item+pots. I'll be healthy enough with that to full clear and gank before basing. Can't jungle after the gank because no camps will be up on that side of the map, and you can afford more items anyways. Very little point to going to low%gank mid, and then back to jungle. I'd buy pots x2 for the first 3-4 clears on most champs. Otherwise after 2-3 camps you've lost too much health to effectively gank on most champs. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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