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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
December 12 2014 15:15 GMT
#181
I clear them iff I have an efficient way to clear the little guys. Amumu is great at it.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
December 12 2014 15:17 GMT
#182
On December 12 2014 23:18 Alaric wrote:
From people complaining to Riot on forums:
Show nested quote +
I am a diamond V Evelynn Main, and i find it hard to play the champion i love most .

It dosn't matter where i start, but after a leash RED + another jungle camp, It dosn't seem like i can kill the 3rd camp/ blue buff. Evelynn is just way too squishy and that also makes her slower in jungle camps.

Well then don't start red with Evelynn, dafuck? Oo Thought it was well-known by now that you start either Krugs or Gromp, and with her E steroid Eve isn't even bad at applying krugs' stun.

Also you actually can clear a third camp if you, like, do any form of Q positioning/kiting at all.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
December 12 2014 15:18 GMT
#183
On December 13 2014 00:02 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Do you guys clear raptors on the first clear? I tend to skip them, those bloodthirsty birds just peck you to death.

I do them second on red buff side clears. The massive health gain from smiting red provides a lot of leeway.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 12 2014 15:41 GMT
#184
I can clear jungle twice before first back. GP jungle s5 winner, sing it with me.

I prefer Frog, Blue, Red, Golems (gankerino), Wraiths/Raptors, Wolves, Frog (back or gankerino). Can do it the other way round but it's easier when you can use w and q throughout.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
December 12 2014 15:47 GMT
#185
Skill order with jungle GP? Itemization?
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
December 12 2014 15:54 GMT
#186
What's interesting is that even in Season 3 and 4, it was well-known that if you actually wanted to minimize damage taken from the jungle camps, you should focus down the small monsters before killing the big ones. It's just that no one ever cared, and so you only saw Korean junglers do it whereas Western junglers didn't give a shit, generally speaking. But now that the jungle is a lot tougher everyone is catching onto the fact that the big monster in every camp should always be saved for last if you don't have continual AoE damage.
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
December 12 2014 15:54 GMT
#187
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
December 12 2014 16:23 GMT
#188
^ so is it me or that orianna skin is must buy even if i dont play her
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 12 2014 16:24 GMT
#189
On December 13 2014 00:47 739 wrote:
Skill order with jungle GP? Itemization?

Skill order qwwew and then max q for farm/ganking/doingwell or e for teamfighting/fellbehind.

For itemization, honestly I've tried most anything you could think of. Depending what you build it moslty affects his clearspeed but he still gets the job done with plenty of health to spare. Personally I think he does best as a tank jungle, core of IBG and righteous glory and usually end with frozen mallet. The rest of my items I base on the other team.
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 12 2014 16:27 GMT
#190
The Sej snowdown skin is pretty cute, not gonna lie.
Hey! How you doin'?
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
December 12 2014 16:41 GMT
#191
That video almost made me cry from the cuteness. I feel bad
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
December 12 2014 16:48 GMT
#192
The Ward skins will be forever or do they expire?
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 12 2014 16:50 GMT
#193
Do you use righteous glory to initiate, and drop ult if they try to disengage/have slows themselves to neuter righteous glory, then use E during the fight to keep up with them?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Purge
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada372 Posts
December 12 2014 17:25 GMT
#194
On December 13 2014 01:48 Chexx wrote:
The Ward skins will be forever or do they expire?


They are forever.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 17:50:33
December 12 2014 17:45 GMT
#195
I use E when they commit, not for chasing, other than that yeah.

To clarify, I use E to boost team when fighting start, not for "my own" benefit. :p
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 12 2014 18:00 GMT
#196
On December 13 2014 00:54 GrandInquisitor wrote:
What's interesting is that even in Season 3 and 4, it was well-known that if you actually wanted to minimize damage taken from the jungle camps, you should focus down the small monsters before killing the big ones. It's just that no one ever cared, and so you only saw Korean junglers do it whereas Western junglers didn't give a shit, generally speaking. But now that the jungle is a lot tougher everyone is catching onto the fact that the big monster in every camp should always be saved for last if you don't have continual AoE damage.


It didn't really matter for most junglers in past seasons. Clear speed was top priority and it was faster to let your AoE damage do most of the work.

I wouldn't say it's true that you should save the big monster for last in every camp. The Sentries/Cinderlings on Blue and Red do an absolute pittance of damage, and the smaller Krug does half the damage of the bigger one so you'd have to sit down and math out which is better.

However, for Raptors and Wolves the answer's pretty obvious. The Crimson Raptor actually does less than half the damage of the camp. The Greater Wolf does more than half, but only by a bit. It's definitely worth it to clear out the smaller creeps on these camps first.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 12 2014 18:19 GMT
#197
On December 12 2014 23:18 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 22:43 Gahlo wrote:
On December 12 2014 21:35 Uldridge wrote:
A 50 hp shield for 30 mana (unless you max it second for heavy burst/kiting comps) on quite a long cooldown is not really going to help in the jungle though. Shield only goes up on number of champions hit. I think they should also change it to number of large monsters hit. Just like they gave Shyvana's burnout a buff, they should give these neat little buffs to all champs imo, should make jungling more interesting.

I was responding specifically to point c. Unless he's running into mana issues, it's kind of silly to lament sustain issues as if he had absolutely none when he has a shield he isn't using, despite how small it is and how long the CD is.


50hp every 20 seconds is not much at all. but yes I do use it lol. and jarvan does run into some mana issues if you spam w because of how mana intensive e-q is.

at level 5 for example, one e-q takes 1/4 of your mana. disregarding mana regen, you run out of mana after just 3 uses of e/q + a w. that's like, 2.5 camps. some times I choose not to use W for the sake of saving mana since I have more health than I have mana + I buy hp pots, not mana pots.

at level 5 your blue buff should be up a 2nd time though.... Like I said, with smart usage of smite, and your abilities, you really shouldn't be running into that many sustain problems after the first 2 or 3 jungle passes.
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
December 12 2014 18:24 GMT
#198
Did the math and you're right -- for Red/Blue buff you want to clear the big dude first. For the Krugs you still want to kill the little dude first because the Ancient Krug is 2.6x the health and 2.1x the damage.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 12 2014 18:37 GMT
#199
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 12 2014 18:58 GMT
#200
On December 13 2014 03:37 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 03:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 12 2014 23:18 krndandaman wrote:
On December 12 2014 22:43 Gahlo wrote:
On December 12 2014 21:35 Uldridge wrote:
A 50 hp shield for 30 mana (unless you max it second for heavy burst/kiting comps) on quite a long cooldown is not really going to help in the jungle though. Shield only goes up on number of champions hit. I think they should also change it to number of large monsters hit. Just like they gave Shyvana's burnout a buff, they should give these neat little buffs to all champs imo, should make jungling more interesting.

I was responding specifically to point c. Unless he's running into mana issues, it's kind of silly to lament sustain issues as if he had absolutely none when he has a shield he isn't using, despite how small it is and how long the CD is.


50hp every 20 seconds is not much at all. but yes I do use it lol. and jarvan does run into some mana issues if you spam w because of how mana intensive e-q is.

at level 5 for example, one e-q takes 1/4 of your mana. disregarding mana regen, you run out of mana after just 3 uses of e/q + a w. that's like, 2.5 camps. some times I choose not to use W for the sake of saving mana since I have more health than I have mana + I buy hp pots, not mana pots.

at level 5 your blue buff should be up a 2nd time though.... Like I said, with smart usage of smite, and your abilities, you really shouldn't be running into that many sustain problems after the first 2 or 3 jungle passes.


I tend to give my blues up to the mid laner. ofc if I get all the blues then none of this is a problem.

well, i just found your problem sir.
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