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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 07 2015 21:03 GMT
#2201
Pretty sure Fionn is missing that Rito monies though. zz
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Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 21:05:01
January 07 2015 21:03 GMT
#2202
On January 08 2015 06:01 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 05:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 08 2015 05:52 MoonBear wrote:
On January 08 2015 05:11 Seuss wrote:
He lost me when he started talking about his opinions of Brood War. If he'd left it at "I happen to think that the gap between Brood War and all these other games is so stark that it makes all these squabbles seem petty and silly" the video would have been significantly better, but he belabored the point badly.

This is pretty common for videos where someone just talks off the cuff about a subject. It's ridiculously easy to get lost in the eddies of your own stream of consciousness.

I will admit, I exceeded by daily NaCL intake when he talked about the great early LoL articles that never got featured but then only name dropped Fionn.

I mean, I wonder who was the bear that solo-wrote the entire LoL Season 2 coverage? T_T

Thorin's scope of TL writers is just Fionn. Let's be real.

TBF Fionn's Rito exit strategy was fucking brilliant.
Diss the shit out of Odee in public.
Get frontpage'd on Reddit (more times than TL articles. double zinger).
Get's suspended from Rito.
Transition into LL, has bigger name in community cuz of debacle.

fucking brilliant.

This type of brilliance is why he's the head writer xD

BTW: http://euw.lolesports.com/articles/championship-points-unlocked-and-more-2015-lcs-changes

Spring split matters now it seems. Helps consistent teams but not necessarily the hottest team at the time of worlds.
Jaedong :D
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
January 07 2015 21:21 GMT
#2203
It's interesting that they ported over part of the KR Circuit Point system. It's a good system, and consistency should be valued. Not sure Winner of Spring/Summer should auto-qualify for Worlds though because you can have a great Spring but then collapse in Summer. Should be like the KR system where top points gets an automatic berth into Worlds, so you can't just win Spring and then say "Welp, I'm done for this year."
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
January 07 2015 21:22 GMT
#2204

#freefionn

any chance to get a news forum on the new site, like on TL.net?

also, does anyone know if Navi is still active?
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 21:26:01
January 07 2015 21:25 GMT
#2205
On January 08 2015 06:21 MoonBear wrote:
It's interesting that they ported over part of the KR Circuit Point system. It's a good system, and consistency should be valued. Not sure Winner of Spring/Summer should auto-qualify for Worlds though because you can have a great Spring but then collapse in Summer. Should be like the KR system where top points gets an automatic berth into Worlds, so you can't just win Spring and then say "Welp, I'm done for this year."


The system in the OP is Summer winner -> auto qualify; Spring winner -> points.
TranslatorBaa!
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
January 07 2015 21:26 GMT
#2206
On January 08 2015 05:29 kongoline wrote:
did u not read? jax loses duels to gnar even late game

Jax beats Gnar in lane though. And late game jax is still better.
You obviously played the lane wrong.

Gnar is weak against anyone with a gap closer. Just leap strike, he will either hop away or if he fights use your dodge and w and you win trades. Gnar has like no hp regen and generally lifesteal of just dorans blade isn't enough.

I have played this matchup alot. both as Gnar and as Jax.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 21:30:13
January 07 2015 21:27 GMT
#2207
Gnar won't die to Jax before he reaches a tower, and I don't think Jax can towerdive and kill Gnar considering all his cc and mobility.

Gnar has a super spammable slow, %health magic damage and big physical base damage so he'd trash a bruiser even when built full tank. With a thornmail he'd amp it up some more.
If Gnar doesn't feel like fighting Jax, he won't fight him long, reducing the impact of Jax's ult's active.
The cd on their respective jumps are irrelevant if Gnar flees because he'll get MS boosts just autoing him and tossing 1k range boomerangs, and mini-Gnar has more base MS than Jax already at higher levels. Even if Gnar can't run out of range, Jax won't jump him much before he reaches a tower or simply jumps over a wall where Jax lacks vision.

On January 08 2015 06:26 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 05:29 kongoline wrote:
did u not read? jax loses duels to gnar even late game

Jax beats Gnar in lane though. And late game jax is still better.
You obviously played the lane wrong.

Gnar is weak against anyone with a gap closer. Just leap strike, he will either hop away or if he fights use your dodge and w and you win trades. Gnar has like no hp regen and generally lifesteal of just dorans blade isn't enough.

I have played this matchup alot. both as Gnar and as Jax.

If you burn Counterstrike then he'll leap out of range, and harass you on the way out. If he positions well you'll also eat all of his minion wave's aggro if you auto him after the jump. It's not that clear-cut.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 07 2015 21:36 GMT
#2208
I was blown away when I found that Sion actually beats Gnar in lane. I didn't think such a thing existed.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 07 2015 21:37 GMT
#2209
can't take thorin too seriously or he'll really get on your nerves
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 21:44:52
January 07 2015 21:40 GMT
#2210
Whichever way you slice it, Gnar is a joke though. Clearly the intended weakness of not being able to control transformation hasn't worked out.

I too have been thinking of picking up Sion, but I'm too afraid of stuffing up his ult and looking like an idiot. Plus his pegleg thing annoys me.

Last random thought: How has Thresh been able to slide through for all this time? He never gets spoken about seriously, just sees a small nerf every so often. Continues to dominate the support role.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 07 2015 22:02 GMT
#2211
Reverse Kennen gp open, any thoughts?
Carrilord has arrived.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 22:13:03
January 07 2015 22:11 GMT
#2212
On January 08 2015 06:40 JazzVortical wrote:
Whichever way you slice it, Gnar is a joke though. Clearly the intended weakness of not being able to control transformation hasn't worked out.

I too have been thinking of picking up Sion, but I'm too afraid of stuffing up his ult and looking like an idiot. Plus his pegleg thing annoys me.

Last random thought: How has Thresh been able to slide through for all this time? He never gets spoken about seriously, just sees a small nerf every so often. Continues to dominate the support role.

Because he doesn't really dominate that much.

He is pretty much lee sin of supp.Can do much more than most champs but doesn't just faceroll over any support and he is very loved by community in general.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 22:15:59
January 07 2015 22:15 GMT
#2213
On January 08 2015 07:11 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 06:40 JazzVortical wrote:
Whichever way you slice it, Gnar is a joke though. Clearly the intended weakness of not being able to control transformation hasn't worked out.

I too have been thinking of picking up Sion, but I'm too afraid of stuffing up his ult and looking like an idiot. Plus his pegleg thing annoys me.

Last random thought: How has Thresh been able to slide through for all this time? He never gets spoken about seriously, just sees a small nerf every so often. Continues to dominate the support role.

Because he doesn't really dominate that much.

He is pretty much lee sin of supp.Can do much more than most champs but doesn't just faceroll over any support and he is very loved by community in general.

At the top level, yes, he doesn't dominate that much, but in general I feel like it requires less skill for a player to be on a certain level with Thresh than say, Nami or Zyra.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 22:15:44
January 07 2015 22:15 GMT
#2214
Edit is hard
.AK
Profile Joined September 2010
United States561 Posts
January 07 2015 22:18 GMT
#2215
On January 08 2015 07:15 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 07:11 nafta wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:40 JazzVortical wrote:
Whichever way you slice it, Gnar is a joke though. Clearly the intended weakness of not being able to control transformation hasn't worked out.

I too have been thinking of picking up Sion, but I'm too afraid of stuffing up his ult and looking like an idiot. Plus his pegleg thing annoys me.

Last random thought: How has Thresh been able to slide through for all this time? He never gets spoken about seriously, just sees a small nerf every so often. Continues to dominate the support role.

Because he doesn't really dominate that much.

He is pretty much lee sin of supp.Can do much more than most champs but doesn't just faceroll over any support and he is very loved by community in general.

At the top level, yes, he doesn't dominate that much, but in general I feel like it requires less skill for a player to be on a certain level with Thresh than say, Nami or Zyra.

Is that a problem worth spending resources to fix? I'm guessing Riot probably does not think so.
All hail the glorious I sell T.Vs at Best Buy || #1 REQUIZEN FANBOI || IGN: .AK/BEST ANTIMAGE NA || Plat IV ADC Main
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 07 2015 22:19 GMT
#2216
On January 08 2015 07:15 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 07:11 nafta wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:40 JazzVortical wrote:
Whichever way you slice it, Gnar is a joke though. Clearly the intended weakness of not being able to control transformation hasn't worked out.

I too have been thinking of picking up Sion, but I'm too afraid of stuffing up his ult and looking like an idiot. Plus his pegleg thing annoys me.

Last random thought: How has Thresh been able to slide through for all this time? He never gets spoken about seriously, just sees a small nerf every so often. Continues to dominate the support role.

Because he doesn't really dominate that much.

He is pretty much lee sin of supp.Can do much more than most champs but doesn't just faceroll over any support and he is very loved by community in general.

At the top level, yes, he doesn't dominate that much, but in general I feel like it requires less skill for a player to be on a certain level with Thresh than say, Nami or Zyra.

Don't agree at all.Passive supports in general are much easier to play like soraka/nami/janna(ofc can be played agressively if you are good but just staying back and not doing anything works much better with those).Thresh actually needs to do stuff to be useful in lane.

739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 07 2015 22:20 GMT
#2217
I remember few patches ago that I wished Graves to see competetive play and I guess it already happened. Now I just REALLY want Zyra to see competetive support picks. Like REALLY do.
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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
January 07 2015 22:23 GMT
#2218
On January 08 2015 07:19 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 07:15 Fildun wrote:
On January 08 2015 07:11 nafta wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:40 JazzVortical wrote:
Whichever way you slice it, Gnar is a joke though. Clearly the intended weakness of not being able to control transformation hasn't worked out.

I too have been thinking of picking up Sion, but I'm too afraid of stuffing up his ult and looking like an idiot. Plus his pegleg thing annoys me.

Last random thought: How has Thresh been able to slide through for all this time? He never gets spoken about seriously, just sees a small nerf every so often. Continues to dominate the support role.

Because he doesn't really dominate that much.

He is pretty much lee sin of supp.Can do much more than most champs but doesn't just faceroll over any support and he is very loved by community in general.

At the top level, yes, he doesn't dominate that much, but in general I feel like it requires less skill for a player to be on a certain level with Thresh than say, Nami or Zyra.

Don't agree at all.Passive supports in general are much easier to play like soraka/nami/janna(ofc can be played agressively if you are good but just staying back and not doing anything works much better with those).Thresh actually needs to do stuff to be useful in lane.


Yeah but if the enemy has a passive support like Soraka you can do whatever the fuck you want as Thresh.
Also, in that case it's just playing not to lose, if you try to play to win vs Thresh as Sona or Zyra I still stand by my original statement.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
January 07 2015 22:25 GMT
#2219
On January 08 2015 07:23 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 07:19 nafta wrote:
On January 08 2015 07:15 Fildun wrote:
On January 08 2015 07:11 nafta wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:40 JazzVortical wrote:
Whichever way you slice it, Gnar is a joke though. Clearly the intended weakness of not being able to control transformation hasn't worked out.

I too have been thinking of picking up Sion, but I'm too afraid of stuffing up his ult and looking like an idiot. Plus his pegleg thing annoys me.

Last random thought: How has Thresh been able to slide through for all this time? He never gets spoken about seriously, just sees a small nerf every so often. Continues to dominate the support role.

Because he doesn't really dominate that much.

He is pretty much lee sin of supp.Can do much more than most champs but doesn't just faceroll over any support and he is very loved by community in general.

At the top level, yes, he doesn't dominate that much, but in general I feel like it requires less skill for a player to be on a certain level with Thresh than say, Nami or Zyra.

Don't agree at all.Passive supports in general are much easier to play like soraka/nami/janna(ofc can be played agressively if you are good but just staying back and not doing anything works much better with those).Thresh actually needs to do stuff to be useful in lane.


Yeah but if the enemy has a passive support like Soraka you can do whatever the fuck you want as Thresh.
Also, in that case it's just playing not to lose, if you try to play to win vs Thresh as Sona or Zyra I still stand by my original statement.


As Thresh vs Soraka you cannot do whatever you want at all. You have to get damage on Soraka. Anything else doesn't do shit. If you hook the adc and get a great trade it doesn't matter at all because 5 seconds later he is full hp again.

Thresh vs Zyra is also a pretty tough matchup in lane if the Zyra is decent.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 07 2015 22:26 GMT
#2220
Dunno really don't see where this thresh power comes from lane wise.He just has really good gank assist.His actual 2v2 really isn't that strong.
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