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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 07 2015 18:38 GMT
#2161
impact to impact popping up on twitter
Carrilord has arrived.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 07 2015 18:41 GMT
#2162
Told you about Impact and Impulse rumours :D Had the news ready, hehe.
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turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
January 07 2015 18:41 GMT
#2163
yeah, it's official - very interesting. They must have jumped on that pretty quickly, I don't think he was off of SKT for very long, was he? NA LCS just got a bit more exciting, now to see who EG is bringing in.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 07 2015 18:43 GMT
#2164
that would be a pretty legit team if they could have retained Vasili
Carrilord has arrived.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
January 07 2015 18:50 GMT
#2165
Playing Kennen at a decent clip last season, my biggest issue with him was that you beat almost no one in lane outright, and by the time you can start leveraging any advantage laning phase is pretty much over. It is even worse now because he's not particularly good against any of the champions that are considered good at the moment. Gnar does what Kennen used to do. Also your farming speed is tied to using lightning rush on minions, which is sort of dangerous if anyone else is around.

That being said, I felt like he was a bit underrated... his ult is still amazing, and it pretty much always will be.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 07 2015 18:59 GMT
#2166
How in the world can Impact join Impulse and play in starting roster when they already have foreigner and exempt-foreigner?
Do i suck at rules as well?
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 07 2015 19:01 GMT
#2167
kr Yoonjae "Rush" Lee - Jungle
cn Xian "XiaoWeiXiao" Yu - Mid Lane
us Apollo "WizFujiin" Price - AD Carry
us Adrian "Adrian" Ma - Support
kr Jung "Impact" Eon-yeong - Top Lane

Aren't you allowed two foreigners? That'd be Impact and Rush. XWX is exempt, thus doesn't count. Wiz and Adrian are NA.

Works out to me.
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 07 2015 19:01 GMT
#2168
On January 08 2015 03:59 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
How in the world can Impact join Impulse and play in starting roster when they already have foreigner and exempt-foreigner?
Do i suck at rules as well?

since wx already has a split under his belt he is exception to rule so they can get 2.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 07 2015 19:02 GMT
#2169
That's not how the exemption rules work as written.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
January 07 2015 19:03 GMT
#2170
Wizfujin tho...

Maybe he's improved, and I don't want to shit on the team before they even play, but ugh.
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
January 07 2015 19:05 GMT
#2171
On January 08 2015 04:02 TheYango wrote:
That's not how the exemption rules work as written.

Or how I read it. O_o

It must be legal if they brought him on but uh...
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 19:11:27
January 07 2015 19:09 GMT
#2172
I just re-read the rules. Apparently this is legal.

As written, the original Riot post only says that if you have TWO OR MORE exempts, you can't add a non-exempt. However, if you have ONE exempt, you can still add two non-exempts. This is confusing because most peoples' original interpretation was more along the lines of "you can have two or more exempts--but as soon as you add a non-exempt, they start to count toward your foreigner total", which isn't the case.

In short, exempt non-residents only count against your foreigner total if you have two or more. A single exempt non-resident effectively only counts as a resident player, so you CAN add 2 non-residents.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 07 2015 19:09 GMT
#2173
impact should be very good.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 19:36:07
January 07 2015 19:10 GMT
#2174
On January 08 2015 04:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
kr Yoonjae "Rush" Lee - Jungle
cn Xian "XiaoWeiXiao" Yu - Mid Lane
us Apollo "WizFujiin" Price - AD Carry
us Adrian "Adrian" Ma - Support
kr Jung "Impact" Eon-yeong - Top Lane

Aren't you allowed two foreigners? That'd be Impact and Rush. XWX is exempt, thus doesn't count. Wiz and Adrian are NA.

Works out to me.


You're allowed 2 foreigners + 3 natives afaik.
Not 2+1+2.

On January 08 2015 04:09 TheYango wrote:
I just re-read the rules. Apparently this is legal.

As written, the original Riot post only says that if you have TWO OR MORE exempts, you can't add a non-exempt. However, if you have ONE exempt, you can still add two non-exempts. This is confusing because most peoples' original interpretation was more along the lines of "you can have two or more exempts--but as soon as you add a non-exempt, they start to count toward your foreigner total", which isn't the case.

In short, exempt non-residents only count against your foreigner total if you have two or more. A single exempt non-resident effectively only counts as a resident player, so you CAN add 2 non-residents.


That's cute.
God bless rules.

Also, apparently, Wizfujin is Apollo now, so wei2coolman's dream is reality now :>
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 19:18:53
January 07 2015 19:10 GMT
#2175
I was under the impression that exempt players count vs. new players

i.e. 3 excempt = ok, 2 excempt + 1 new = not ok

it was pretty clear when they posted the scenarios. I don't really care for the rule anyway so w/e if they are bending it.

Here are some examples of impermissible roster changes:

Team is starting three exempt non-residents and two residents. Team wants to replace one exempt non-resident with one non-exempt non-resident.
The team cannot do this - However, they can replace the exempt non-resident with another exempt non-resident or a resident.

Team has five exempt non-residents, and wants to replace one of them with a non-exempt non-resident player.
The team cannot do this - if a team has two or more exempt non-residents, they cannot add an additional non-exempt non-resident.


how is the bolded less of a problem than what is happening??? I mean if you support reigon lock that is unlike me.

http://na.lolesports.com/articles/interregional-movement-and-expansion-tournament
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Lost My Will To Live
Profile Joined October 2014
Botswana601 Posts
January 07 2015 19:11 GMT
#2176
On January 08 2015 04:03 red_ wrote:
Wizfujin tho...

Maybe he's improved, and I don't want to shit on the team before they even play, but ugh.

To be fair, he should have less pressure on him since he doesn't have to play with scrubs like Innox and Snoopeh.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 07 2015 19:12 GMT
#2177
On January 08 2015 04:10 Slusher wrote:
I was under the impression that exempt players count vs. new players

i.e. 3 excempt = ok, 2 excempt + 1 new = not ok

it was pretty clear when they posted the scenarios. I don't really care for the rule anyway so w/e if they are bending it.

It figures that Riot provided 7 examples in the original press release, but NONE of them actually cover the borderline case of a team having one exempt non-resident trying to add 2 non-exempt non-residents--which is actually the only confusing case at all for the new rules.

All their examples are like 3+2 or 4+1+1, or other cases that are not really confusing, but the actually confusing case of 2+1+2 doesn't get clarified.
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Kotfluegel
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany49 Posts
January 07 2015 19:13 GMT
#2178
On January 08 2015 04:11 Lost My Will To Live wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 04:03 red_ wrote:
Wizfujin tho...

Maybe he's improved, and I don't want to shit on the team before they even play, but ugh.

To be fair, he should have less pressure on him since he doesn't have to play with scrubs like Innox and Snoopeh.

yellowpete is not wizfujin
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 19:20:29
January 07 2015 19:14 GMT
#2179
this feels edited, wouldn't be the first time riot has adjusted rules to help out their teams.
Carrilord has arrived.
Lost My Will To Live
Profile Joined October 2014
Botswana601 Posts
January 07 2015 19:15 GMT
#2180
On January 08 2015 04:13 Kotfluegel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 04:11 Lost My Will To Live wrote:
On January 08 2015 04:03 red_ wrote:
Wizfujin tho...

Maybe he's improved, and I don't want to shit on the team before they even play, but ugh.

To be fair, he should have less pressure on him since he doesn't have to play with scrubs like Innox and Snoopeh.

yellowpete is not wizfujin

My apologies. I'll replace those two players with an even deadlier combination of Daydreamin and NintendudeX
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