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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 07 2015 16:10 GMT
#2141
Like Sufficiency said, Noc's problem is his kit. It's underwhelming outside of his ulti and the team literally lives/dies by how well the Jungler uses Paranoia. Rengo's burst is hard to match mid/late game.

Kennen's fine in solo queue. Ranged, AoE ulti for Press R comps, manaless, hard CC. But competitively, why would you ever pick Kennen if you can get Gnar? You certainly wouldn't want to pick Kennen into Gnar either.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 07 2015 16:26 GMT
#2142
On January 08 2015 01:06 Purge wrote:
Wouldnt a fairer comparison to Noct be Rengar? Similar idea of semiglobal pressure, similar assassination/ vision advantage. But Nocturne is 180/140/100 and Rengar is 150/110/70. When you compare the 2 I find myself wondering if the global vision denial is worth 30 seconds more on your ult. Probably not which is why he isnt picked so often.

That being said hes like TF, hes always offmeta but you can pick him into any global based comp and he'll work. B tier if that's a metric to compare.

Oh and what does everyone think of Kennen on this patch? He got some buffs that should make him at least a bit more relevant than before right?


Kennen is very reliant on laning phase and basically has only one powerspike when hourglass comes to play.
But holy shit, is he bad when his team is behind or he's camped.
So, not the best pick for soloqueue at all, unless you're Kennen main or something like that.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 07 2015 16:41 GMT
#2143
Really liking Sion in toplane. Full tank masteries, runes and build and max E wins most matchups pretty hard. Love all the free damage from E, Q, W combo. Later in the game you have great clear for anti-siege and unless their team spends their CC on you its pretty easy getting 1-2 people in your R->Q.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
January 07 2015 16:47 GMT
#2144
On January 08 2015 01:26 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 01:06 Purge wrote:
Wouldnt a fairer comparison to Noct be Rengar? Similar idea of semiglobal pressure, similar assassination/ vision advantage. But Nocturne is 180/140/100 and Rengar is 150/110/70. When you compare the 2 I find myself wondering if the global vision denial is worth 30 seconds more on your ult. Probably not which is why he isnt picked so often.

That being said hes like TF, hes always offmeta but you can pick him into any global based comp and he'll work. B tier if that's a metric to compare.

Oh and what does everyone think of Kennen on this patch? He got some buffs that should make him at least a bit more relevant than before right?


Kennen is very reliant on laning phase and basically has only one powerspike when hourglass comes to play.
But holy shit, is he bad when his team is behind or he's camped.
So, not the best pick for soloqueue at all, unless you're Kennen main or something like that.

I think the biggest issue with Kennen is that you actually have to run into people with his E as a speed boost to mark them. I think it'd be kinda cool if they changed it into a dash kind of like Smash64 Pikachu's upB, but only getting the redirect if you hit somebody.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 17:17:55
January 07 2015 17:12 GMT
#2145
I actually laned against a top nocturne yesterday, it's actually a really helpless feeling even with tp how fast he can fuck up your other lanes and you can't get there in time to help. One time he just tp'd in my face because I was playing GP and he knew I could not stop him, I couldn't see his tp location on the map so all I could do was damage him and spam ping that he was tping. got him to like 20% and bot lane still gets doublekilled.

we still won though

also CaliTrolz is predicting Rek'sai will be known as a top by the end of the season, but then he isn't exactly known for meta picks so who knows.
Carrilord has arrived.
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 17:38:05
January 07 2015 17:37 GMT
#2146
On January 08 2015 02:12 Slusher wrote:
I actually laned against a top nocturne yesterday, it's actually a really helpless feeling even with tp how fast he can fuck up your other lanes and you can't get there in time to help. One time he just tp'd in my face because I was playing GP and he knew I could not stop him, I couldn't see his tp location on the map so all I could do was damage him and spam ping that he was tping. got him to like 20% and bot lane still gets doublekilled.

we still won though

also CaliTrolz is predicting Rek'sai will be known as a top by the end of the season, but then he isn't exactly known for meta picks so who knows.

Had someone play noc mid awhile back so I picked vi jungle for the yolo dives safe to say there mid hated life
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
January 07 2015 17:40 GMT
#2147
http://na.lolesports.com/schedule/2015-01-19

So EU LCS schedule is up. Thursdays & Fridays, kick off with Fnatic vs Alliance.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 17:49:43
January 07 2015 17:45 GMT
#2148
On January 08 2015 02:40 739 wrote:
http://na.lolesports.com/schedule/2015-01-19

So EU LCS schedule is up. Thursdays & Fridays, kick off with Fnatic vs Alliance.


So, 9 weeks, 18 games as expected and play-offs in end of March/beginning of April.
Okay.

Now it's time for cringeworthy team photoshoots.
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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
January 07 2015 17:48 GMT
#2149
On January 08 2015 00:38 turamn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 00:33 Sufficiency wrote:
How the heck would you be able to make a tunnel to bottom lane when you are laning top? Especially if you don't run Ignite?



Edit: so you are saying walk to Dragon then R back to lane. That's very different from TP to bot then walk back to top due to the lack of surprise factor.


Personally, I'd keep TP. Use the TP to make a play on bottom side, and then use your ult to get right back to your lane. Very few top laners can actually match that kind of global pressure.


By very few, you mean Shen (Stand United down, TP back top) and maybe top lane Karthus (press R, wait 4s, get a kill/assist).
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
January 07 2015 17:57 GMT
#2150
http://euw.lolesports.com/eu-lcs/2015/spring/teams/fnatic

ReignOver as Fnatic new jungler?
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 18:02:52
January 07 2015 18:01 GMT
#2151
On January 08 2015 00:27 Osmoses wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the strength of rek'sai is? Shes durable and has decent mobility, but thats not op is it?

being untargetable in tunnel is godly good. My initial assessment that she was only a good splitpusher, and sort of clunky mechanics, but actually the long tunnel time actually works in her favor since she's untargetable during that time, making her insanely slippery.

Dunno why Riot wants to nerf her burrowed Q ratio, if you're dumpstering kids with AP reksai, you fucking deserve to dumpster kids with AP reksai.

On January 08 2015 02:57 739 wrote:
http://euw.lolesports.com/eu-lcs/2015/spring/teams/fnatic

ReignOver as Fnatic new jungler?

Ugh, there needs to be a rule or something where if you lose all 5 of your players from last split, you can't play in the next LCS (or have to qualify for it with the new team or something).
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 07 2015 18:03 GMT
#2152
You're untargetable in tunnel? Can she pop projectiles and/or things like Karth ult?
It's your boy Guzma!
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
January 07 2015 18:03 GMT
#2153
I thought that such rule already existed? Doesn't it mention 3+ players?
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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
January 07 2015 18:05 GMT
#2154
Thought so as well, apparently not. Anyway, don't think ReignOver will do that well, especially with the language barrier. They would have done better getting some EU talent imo.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
January 07 2015 18:07 GMT
#2155
On January 08 2015 03:03 739 wrote:
I thought that such rule already existed? Doesn't it mention 3+ players?

That's for team that just qualified for LCS going into the split.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 07 2015 18:08 GMT
#2156
On January 08 2015 03:03 739 wrote:
I thought that such rule already existed? Doesn't it mention 3+ players?


rip pro scene evolution thread lol..

+ Show Spoiler +
there is no rule it was virtually that threads elo hell/what is a tank/gp10 topic
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 18:12:51
January 07 2015 18:12 GMT
#2157
On January 08 2015 03:03 Requizen wrote:
You're untargetable in tunnel? Can she pop projectiles and/or things like Karth ult?

I haven't tested out all the possible things she can avoid while tunneling, but it's quite a lot just from play. Too many times I've escaped with sub100 health cuz of tunneling out of fights.
On January 08 2015 03:03 739 wrote:
I thought that such rule already existed? Doesn't it mention 3+ players?

That only applies to teams that just qualified for LCS.
liftlift > tsm
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 07 2015 18:14 GMT
#2158
On January 08 2015 03:08 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 03:03 739 wrote:
I thought that such rule already existed? Doesn't it mention 3+ players?


rip pro scene evolution thread lol..

+ Show Spoiler +
there is no rule it was virtually that threads elo hell/what is a tank/gp10 topic


It was always hilarious when someone was bringing this topic over and over with answer 2 pages ago :D
ReignOver isn't even worst problem of Fnatic, lol.
Their toplane is even worse and Steelback isn't anything not Vardags level either.

I kinda wish now that Fnatic can get eliminated because they clearly don't care about getting high, Yellowstar retires and Febiven finally finds out what kind of crime did he commit in previous life.
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turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
January 07 2015 18:14 GMT
#2159
On January 08 2015 03:05 Fildun wrote:
Thought so as well, apparently not. Anyway, don't think ReignOver will do that well, especially with the language barrier. They would have done better getting some EU talent imo.


I agree. I don't recall ReignOver being particularly great during his time in OGN. I wonder why they decided to pick him up?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 07 2015 18:21 GMT
#2160
I mean they kinda got hung out to dry by themselves firstly by planning to keep Rekkles long after it seemed hopeless. And secondly by Peke, if they would have faced the music right away their options would have been a lot more vast.
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