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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
either you just go from camp to camp not wasting any time or you go into a lane, get into a fight, drop low on hp and have to base, or you don't have to base but you're pretty much "improvising" from there anyway, but you likely gained some exp so you can't really simulate that by jsut standting around doing nothing about doing golems instead of birds, I can tell you without testing: it end up being worse, because you waste so much more time walking that there's no chance you clear faster | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On November 20 2014 23:53 Scip wrote: but setting time aside in your clear doesn't work like that either you just go from camp to camp not wasting any time or you go into a lane, get into a fight, drop low on hp and have to base, or you don't have to base but you're pretty much "improvising" from there anyway, but you likely gained some exp so you can't really simulate that by jsut standting around doing nothing Right. but when its in every test clear. it doesn't matter because its a constant. its just allowing me to see, can i help my team for sure? yes? or no? On November 20 2014 23:47 Scip wrote: because showing is easier than explaining http://www.twitch.tv/scipaeus/c/5533795 5 camps in 3:19 don't think you can do all that much better than that, maybe with perfect micro you can cut it down to 3:17 or something. just curious how does it work out if you do doubles instead of birds? | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On November 21 2014 00:01 Scip wrote: should I record my tests with other junglers? could be fun could get some E fame if you wanted to. i really am curious about going to double golem things instead of bird before red though. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
it'd take like 10 seconds more to walk there and then killing it isn't gonna be any faster with an AoE jungler like Evelynn, probably significantly slower. Not worth testing. Alright recording by the way of stream omgomgomg join me in stream chat ask me questions request things GIVE ME ATTENTIONS | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4122 Posts
On November 21 2014 00:01 Scip wrote: should I record my tests with other junglers? could be fun Record a Skarner run? :3 | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On November 21 2014 00:10 krndandaman wrote: wait so could anyone give me a short ranking of the jungle monsters in difficulty? in s4 it was wraiths/wolves being pretty similar (wraiths probably weaker), then golems, then wight, then buffs at lvl 1? probably wolves < Frog < doubles < birds < buffs but frog scales to be harder very quickly by the time it spawns again its one of the hardest camps. but don't quote me on that because its just a preliminary guess. i havent tried starting at every camp comparing difficulty. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
This patch has made Athenes basically 100% not worth taking, if you look at the numbers. Check this out. Athenes + Amp Tome: 3135g 80 AP 25 MR +50% regen 20% CDR 1.5% missing mana per 5 secs 15% mana on kill or assist Morello + Chalice: 3100g 80 AP 25 MR +150% regen 20% CDR 1.5% missing mana per 5 secs Grievous Wounds passive Basically, I feel like Chalice is at a point now where you shouldn't buy it unless you have to, and even if you have to you should never upgrade to Athenes, you should go Chalice + Morello instead and sell the Chalice when you run out of item slots. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
The thing is the upgrade from Chalice to Athenes got nerfed HARD, to the point where going Chalice + Morello is actually going to be more value than going Athenes. Chalice + Forbidden Idol + Codex is the new Athenes, basically. | ||
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DrunkenOne
United States302 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35144 Posts
On November 21 2014 00:38 Zdrastochye wrote: Do you think they buffed Wraiths/Birds to dissuade mid laners from farming them in between waves? Yes. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On November 21 2014 00:38 DrunkenOne wrote: Is it best to start golem/frogs even if you have a leash? yes | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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