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JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
October 18 2014 23:09 GMT
#1381
I just played a game where our ENTIRE team kept getting bugsplat dc
I had to reconnect and join 4 times

And none of the enemy team ever disconnected
And at the end, not even a loss forgiven

Anyone else getting this?
I'm scared to queue up again

Or is it just a freak accident
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
October 19 2014 00:16 GMT
#1382
the dc thing happened to me yesterday in a promo game =( 3 people on my team dc'd 10-15 times during the game. and no one on the other team dc'd at all. we would win team fights when we had everyone, so the other team just waited for a dc to push an objective. it was so frustrating.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 19 2014 00:19 GMT
#1383
On October 19 2014 08:08 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 07:42 GolemMadness wrote:
I've started playing Malzahar mid. He's good for people like me who suck, because even if you miss your last hits, you still have a chance to get it with your E! I think he's actually pretty strong in solo queue right now. Especially since so many people don't seem to realise that mikael's doesn't work on suppresses.


i dread the day malzahar shows up in pro games
i may actually quit the game after the following nerf


don't worry, that will never happen if malz is in any state like he is now
no mobility + stuns himself during his kill move = best you can do is trade kills against competent teams, you'll never get solo kills and there's no potential to outplay
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 19 2014 00:29 GMT
#1384
Varus ultra hitbox was almost doubled 6+ months ago and people stoll talk about missed varus Ulysses like it's common.

On the topic of the 1 Varus ultra Deft wiffed at worlds it was a gank attempt where heart showed earily and he should have given up but he tried to salvage it by flash ulting and getting egg on his face
Carrilord has arrived.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
October 19 2014 00:41 GMT
#1385
How is Varus now, if he was used in a tournament?
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
October 19 2014 00:48 GMT
#1386
On October 19 2014 09:41 Dark_Chill wrote:
How is Varus now, if he was used in a tournament?

Imo, a shittier version of Ashe. He's like Ashe with barely any of the utility. He was picked to literally be assassin bait.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 00:54:21
October 19 2014 00:54 GMT
#1387
I feel like Varus is similar to Ashe but more damage less utility.

Both of them are more about assisting their team than stealing the show.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
October 19 2014 01:08 GMT
#1388
On October 19 2014 09:54 Ketara wrote:
I feel like Varus is similar to Ashe but more damage less utility.

Both of them are more about assisting their team than stealing the show.

Even then, I still feel that Varus' damage is underwhelming.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
October 19 2014 01:08 GMT
#1389
On October 19 2014 09:19 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 08:08 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On October 19 2014 07:42 GolemMadness wrote:
I've started playing Malzahar mid. He's good for people like me who suck, because even if you miss your last hits, you still have a chance to get it with your E! I think he's actually pretty strong in solo queue right now. Especially since so many people don't seem to realise that mikael's doesn't work on suppresses.


i dread the day malzahar shows up in pro games
i may actually quit the game after the following nerf


don't worry, that will never happen if malz is in any state like he is now
no mobility + stuns himself during his kill move = best you can do is trade kills against competent teams, you'll never get solo kills and there's no potential to outplay

In team fights, you can't really use your ult on a high priority target unfortunately, because you pretty much get kill yourself. It's pretty much reserved for peeling the bruiser/tank off your carry. His full combo does pretty well vs tanks so it isn't a total waste. His Q is god like in team fights if you can land it though. 300 base damage, .8 ratio and a 3 second silence is pretty good. Too bad it's pretty much the hardest skill in the game to land.

In pro play, his niche would probably be part of some non-stop push comp. Given he takes pretty much anyone in the game 1 on 1, just sit in lane and push like a beast. Which probably means he'd just be ganked non stop because he has no mobility and only one hard CC which CCs himself, thus ruining the whole idea.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 02:00:09
October 19 2014 01:56 GMT
#1390
I don't think Varus's damage is all that low, he has mixed ap/ad damage so he's not as easy to itemize against, and he does % max hp damage to the tune of a very realistic 15-20% in one combo, possibly 30% although that is pushing it. I think his bigger problem is being 2nd fiddle at everything he does

-he does great damage to tanks, but so does Vayne and she has the tools to peel for herself, while his are ok/long cd

-he does mixed damage, MF does more

-he becomes a monster in teamfights if your team gets the first kill, yea I'll take Jinx on that one too

I guess if you want to compare him to Ashe I do like his ult better, I think it does more in a teamfight because the tenedrils give your opponent an extra variable to their positioning which is kinda a big deal, or if he has to use it for emergency peel it gets full duration/damage instead of reduced like Ashe.
Carrilord has arrived.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
October 19 2014 02:44 GMT
#1391
On October 19 2014 07:42 GolemMadness wrote:
I've started playing Malzahar mid. He's good for people like me who suck, because even if you miss your last hits, you still have a chance to get it with your E! I think he's actually pretty strong in solo queue right now. Especially since so many people don't seem to realise that mikael's doesn't work on suppresses.


mikaels and QSS does work on suppresses, only the summoner spell cleanse doesn't work
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
October 19 2014 02:50 GMT
#1392
On October 19 2014 10:56 Slusher wrote:
I don't think Varus's damage is all that low, he has mixed ap/ad damage so he's not as easy to itemize against, and he does % max hp damage to the tune of a very realistic 15-20% in one combo, possibly 30% although that is pushing it. I think his bigger problem is being 2nd fiddle at everything he does

-he does great damage to tanks, but so does Vayne and she has the tools to peel for herself, while his are ok/long cd

-he does mixed damage, MF does more

-he becomes a monster in teamfights if your team gets the first kill, yea I'll take Jinx on that one too

I guess if you want to compare him to Ashe I do like his ult better, I think it does more in a teamfight because the tenedrils give your opponent an extra variable to their positioning which is kinda a big deal, or if he has to use it for emergency peel it gets full duration/damage instead of reduced like Ashe.

I don't have the math on me anymore, but I think it was somewhere around 70% of Varus' raw damage is physical in most reasonable resistance level. On top of that, being an ADC he builds Armor Pen while the only Magic Pen he has is from masteries. So after even just the base 30 everybody gets and nothing else, it's already reduced to under a quarter of his damage. In addition, his combos are very lackluster. What do you pop the stacks with? Q? You're most likely losing a lot of the charge damage to blow the stacks. E? You're sacrificing ultilty(the purpose for picking this champion.) R? Even more of a sacrifice than E.

But yes, I agree. If we want to use Riot terminology, he has clearly defined strength and weaknesses but he's not actually strong in his strengths.
NapKiN16
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada95 Posts
October 19 2014 02:53 GMT
#1393
On October 19 2014 11:44 saltywet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 07:42 GolemMadness wrote:
I've started playing Malzahar mid. He's good for people like me who suck, because even if you miss your last hits, you still have a chance to get it with your E! I think he's actually pretty strong in solo queue right now. Especially since so many people don't seem to realise that mikael's doesn't work on suppresses.


mikaels and QSS does work on suppresses, only the summoner spell cleanse doesn't work


Mikael's Crucible is most effective versus enemy teams with a large amount of single target CC (excluding suppression, blinds and airborne effects). From the wiki...
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
October 19 2014 02:55 GMT
#1394
Just letting ya guys know that Varus + Xerath support botlane is very strong.
Retvrn to Forvms
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 03:11:10
October 19 2014 03:03 GMT
#1395
he was actually incredible when Zyra was good if she landed a root they were eating a 2-3 stack E and were going to eat a 2-3 stack Q after their retreat

On October 19 2014 11:50 Gahlo wrote: What do you pop the stacks with? Q? You're most likely losing a lot of the charge damage to blow the stacks. E? You're sacrificing ultilty(the purpose for picking this champion.) R? Even more of a sacrifice than E.


?? can't charge your Q in close quarters anyway if you are in auto range it's a dps loss to do anything other than let one instant rip to proc w, don't get the E comment, who are you going to use E on ideally? prob bruisers or other melee, who is % hp good on, bruisers and other melee.
Carrilord has arrived.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 19 2014 03:17 GMT
#1396
Pretty excited to go to Bellevue to watch Worlds tonight ^_^

It's gonna be a great three games.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
October 19 2014 03:32 GMT
#1397
Varus's problem is the state of AD itemization and the mid lane meta. He needs raw AD and pen but doesn't have an easy way to build it besides LW and ER.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
October 19 2014 03:46 GMT
#1398
On October 19 2014 12:03 Slusher wrote:
he was actually incredible when Zyra was good if she landed a root they were eating a 2-3 stack E and were going to eat a 2-3 stack Q after their retreat

Show nested quote +
On October 19 2014 11:50 Gahlo wrote: What do you pop the stacks with? Q? You're most likely losing a lot of the charge damage to blow the stacks. E? You're sacrificing ultilty(the purpose for picking this champion.) R? Even more of a sacrifice than E.


?? can't charge your Q in close quarters anyway if you are in auto range it's a dps loss to do anything other than let one instant rip to proc w, don't get the E comment, who are you going to use E on ideally? prob bruisers or other melee, who is % hp good on, bruisers and other melee.

If you use E to blow stacks you're forced to use the slow field or healing reduction in a place you may not want. % damage is pretty jankballs when you don't have the pen for it. This is Varus we're talking about, not Vayne.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 19 2014 03:50 GMT
#1399
I def. agree that Varus would look a lot stronger if Essence Reaver looked stronger.

He's one of the best candidates for the item amongst ADCs.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 19 2014 04:01 GMT
#1400
I loved the red post the other day about how they were thinking of adding a component for it to bulid out of when Forbidden idol is in the game, I mean am I the only one this is obvious to?
Carrilord has arrived.
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