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On October 19 2014 04:03 zulu_nation8 wrote:
not sure how this turning player name off thing came about but it's pretty dumb. You shouldn't be playing the same way vs. everyone especially if you have past history to rely on.
If your goal is to improve you should be looking to play a certain way based on their champion not who's playing the champion.
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On October 19 2014 03:17 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2014 01:57 Eiii wrote:On October 18 2014 22:13 Gahlo wrote:On October 18 2014 21:26 -Zoda- wrote:On October 18 2014 20:13 Alaric wrote:
Iirc the way it's coded makes it so either attack+shiv both crit, or both don't.
I know it was changed in a patch at some point but I can't remember if they dissociated it or if it's like that atm. Don't know really well how it is now, but I remember the problem was that if either the Shiv part or the auto part crits, the whole would crit, meaning the chance of crit was actually twice higher than it should be. I thought it was that if the Shiv passive crit at all, every instance in the chain would crit instead of having every instance having it's own chance to crit. My understanding of it was that the reason shiv was so good was that its crit proc was calculated separately from the AA's crit proc, so it basically helped reduce the crit variance you'd get while autoattacking. Now that it can only crit when your autoattack does, it doesn't help smooth things out anymore. it's still good since it's good waveclear and it provides a reasonably significant damage bump, especially since you typically get it early on, when most champs don't have a lot of magic resist. old shiv, with the crit chance separately calculated from the auto attack, was indeed stronger because it effectively let you double dip on your crit chance with each auto. Basically, every auto attack had 2 chances to crit; the base auto and the shiv, so you effectively had slightly less than double your actual crit chance every time Shiv was up, since the effective damage of Shiv and your auto attacks were relatively similar if you get Shiv early.
Like anything that increases or decreases variance. This depends on if you're ahead or behind. If you're behind you're potentially better off with the high variance version
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If your goal is to improve you should not deprive yourself of any information in the game, otherwise you don't learn how to use this information.
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I have champion names off. I'll look at their names in the loading screen and if it matters then I'll pay attention but more often than not, I'll have never seen them before. Therefore, I might as well hide the names in game since it takes up room on-screen.
I'm not depriving myself of any information, I'm making everything onscreen easier to read since there's less floating text that I should care about.
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On October 19 2014 05:09 Prog wrote:
If your goal is to improve you should not deprive yourself of any information in the game, otherwise you don't learn how to use this information.
Problem with that is you end up developing a subset of skills you won't be using everytime.
Just saw qtpie land varus ulti. Best varus in the world?
Holy shit he landed 2 in a row now. Wut a god.
3 times in a row now. What a fucking based god. Okay 4 times in a row. This has got to be a world record. 5 now. Ults doing so much work.
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There was a Varus pick at worlds
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Pretty sure Varus ults were missed at worlds huehue
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On October 19 2014 06:06 JSH wrote:
Pretty sure Varus ults were missed at worlds huehue
Pretty sure he missed every ulti that game.
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On October 19 2014 06:21 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2014 06:06 JSH wrote:
Pretty sure Varus ults were missed at worlds huehue Pretty sure he missed every ulti that game.
I think he landed one!
or two 
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On October 19 2014 05:23 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2014 05:09 Prog wrote:
If your goal is to improve you should not deprive yourself of any information in the game, otherwise you don't learn how to use this information. Problem with that is you end up developing a subset of skills you won't be using everytime.
I don't see how that qualifies as 'problem'.
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By that logic you shouldn't practice lane matchups because the champ you face might not be the one you practiced for.
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On October 19 2014 06:47 phyvo wrote:
By that logic you shouldn't practice lane matchups because the champ you face might not be the one you practiced for.
To some extent that too is true. Facing non meta matchups are sort of annoying in that way too.
That's also why if you're blind picking in midlane, it's always better to choose something generic that can farm safely, and has the broadest matchup equality.
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Wait, how does blindpicking a safe middle laner relate to playing against non-meta champs not helping you practice as much as playing against meta champions?
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On October 19 2014 07:24 Scip wrote:
Wait, how does blindpicking a safe middle laner relate to playing against non-meta champs not helping you practice as much as playing against meta champions?
Because otherwise W2CM might lose the argument
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On October 19 2014 05:08 Goumindong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2014 03:17 Ryuu314 wrote:On October 19 2014 01:57 Eiii wrote:On October 18 2014 22:13 Gahlo wrote:On October 18 2014 21:26 -Zoda- wrote:On October 18 2014 20:13 Alaric wrote:
Iirc the way it's coded makes it so either attack+shiv both crit, or both don't.
I know it was changed in a patch at some point but I can't remember if they dissociated it or if it's like that atm. Don't know really well how it is now, but I remember the problem was that if either the Shiv part or the auto part crits, the whole would crit, meaning the chance of crit was actually twice higher than it should be. I thought it was that if the Shiv passive crit at all, every instance in the chain would crit instead of having every instance having it's own chance to crit. My understanding of it was that the reason shiv was so good was that its crit proc was calculated separately from the AA's crit proc, so it basically helped reduce the crit variance you'd get while autoattacking. Now that it can only crit when your autoattack does, it doesn't help smooth things out anymore. it's still good since it's good waveclear and it provides a reasonably significant damage bump, especially since you typically get it early on, when most champs don't have a lot of magic resist. old shiv, with the crit chance separately calculated from the auto attack, was indeed stronger because it effectively let you double dip on your crit chance with each auto. Basically, every auto attack had 2 chances to crit; the base auto and the shiv, so you effectively had slightly less than double your actual crit chance every time Shiv was up, since the effective damage of Shiv and your auto attacks were relatively similar if you get Shiv early. Like anything that increases or decreases variance. This depends on if you're ahead or behind. If you're behind you're potentially better off with the high variance version
Old shiv was bugged, not high variance. It went roll 1: if crit, both crit, if not, roll 2 to decide if shiv crits on its own.
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I've started playing Malzahar mid. He's good for people like me who suck, because even if you miss your last hits, you still have a chance to get it with your E! I think he's actually pretty strong in solo queue right now. Especially since so many people don't seem to realise that mikael's doesn't work on suppresses.
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On October 19 2014 07:24 Scip wrote:
Wait, how does blindpicking a safe middle laner relate to playing against non-meta champs not helping you practice as much as playing against meta champions?
Safe midlaner: whoever you're against, play safe and from the bacl, farm up, impact later.
Snowball-reliant midlaner: more interaction with the opposing laner, hence more exposition to the quirks and differences between each of them (including non-meta champs).
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On October 19 2014 07:51 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2014 07:24 Scip wrote:
Wait, how does blindpicking a safe middle laner relate to playing against non-meta champs not helping you practice as much as playing against meta champions? Safe midlaner: whoever you're against, play safe and from the bacl, farm up, impact later. Snowball-reliant midlaner: more interaction with the opposing laner, hence more exposition to the quirks and differences between each of them (including non-meta champs).
yeah, including non-meta champions, but not them exclusively
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On October 19 2014 07:42 GolemMadness wrote:
I've started playing Malzahar mid. He's good for people like me who suck, because even if you miss your last hits, you still have a chance to get it with your E! I think he's actually pretty strong in solo queue right now. Especially since so many people don't seem to realise that mikael's doesn't work on suppresses.
i dread the day malzahar shows up in pro games
i may actually quit the game after the following nerf
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