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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-13 13:50:15
October 13 2014 13:49 GMT
#861
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 13 2014 14:15 GMT
#862
Executioners Calling has actually been completely removed from the game in the preseason patch.

So has Rageblade.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 13 2014 14:20 GMT
#863
On October 13 2014 23:15 Ketara wrote:
Executioners Calling has actually been completely removed from the game in the preseason patch.

So has Rageblade.

What? My poor Kayle...
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 13 2014 14:26 GMT
#864
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4162 Posts
October 13 2014 14:36 GMT
#865
On October 13 2014 23:15 Ketara wrote:
Executioners Calling has actually been completely removed from the game in the preseason patch.

So has Rageblade.

Really? I think I saw it several days ago while I was browsing in the damage items section, thats why I came up with the thought. Perhaps I miss-saw it
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
October 13 2014 14:36 GMT
#866
On October 13 2014 23:20 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 23:15 Ketara wrote:
Executioners Calling has actually been completely removed from the game in the preseason patch.

So has Rageblade.

What? My poor Kayle...

Why would you buy Executioner's Calling on Kayle?
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 13 2014 14:46 GMT
#867
I think he was implying Rageblade.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
October 13 2014 14:47 GMT
#868
On October 13 2014 23:46 Osmoses wrote:
I think he was implying Rageblade.

That's the joke.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-13 14:49:21
October 13 2014 14:48 GMT
#869
Rageblade. It's occasionally a fun offensive item to get on Kayle. I play Nashor's/Hurricane Kayle, as opposed to the AP heavy, Q max, Deathcap/Lich Bane type.

edit: sarcasm whoosh. ggwp Gahlo.
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JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
October 13 2014 14:56 GMT
#870
Yo Rageblade GP is best
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 13 2014 15:07 GMT
#871
Uh? What do you max on Kayle then? With its 50 damage/level and stronger slow you'd need to swing 6+ times per Q cast to make E max better, unless you're getting splash off on other champions obviously (but in lane I'd argue Q max is better, worst case max E second; stronger slow at level 9 also makes picks easier).
Most of her damage comes from her AD and the AP ratio initially so leveling E past the value first point doesn't sound too interesting.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 13 2014 15:12 GMT
#872
Doesn't seem like swinging 6 times per Q would be a huge problem for a Kayle rushing Nashor's.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-13 15:16:36
October 13 2014 15:15 GMT
#873
You're looking at Reckoning and Righteous Fury from a 1v1 point of view, which in that case, Q max is better. But for Top where you want to control/push lane depending on the situation, I find E max better. If I know where the enemy jungler is, enemy Top Lane is going to be forced to last hit under turret as early as level 2-3.

In most situations, I can shove lane early and get a decent CS lead in the first 10-15 mins. E max also scales better with Stinger/Nashor's during early/mid game.

Edit: This is obv my experience from Top Lane Kayle. If you're Mid, Overpow's item/skill build (essentially AP/Deathcap) has more merits imo.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-13 15:20:07
October 13 2014 15:15 GMT
#874
Oh on paper if she stands still and just right-clicks she only needs 0.625 AS to do it in the 8 seconds of Q's cooldown. It's more that it gives her a weaker slow to keep hititng mobile people (sure it's easier to hit Jax than Nidalee) and the CDR the components give her will also make Q's harass "dps" higher.

Edit since Neo posted: yeah as a Jax main until the meta kept dumping on him and they nerfed his base stats I know how bitchy it is to farm because you're under tower before you even hit 2. :<
The idea was that if you want to bully over just shove top lane is a 1v1 most of the time. Is the difference (10 base + a small increase in the AD ratio, 5% so under 15 damage/level/swing total) big enough in terms of clearing speed?

What do you max 2nd, too? If you wanted the splash I assumed you'd be able to max E second and have several points in it by the time you start grouping (level 8-10), do you max Q second then?
It seemed like most people went Q>W>E went building more AP.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-13 15:23:12
October 13 2014 15:19 GMT
#875
On October 14 2014 00:07 Alaric wrote:
Uh? What do you max on Kayle then? With its 50 damage/level and stronger slow you'd need to swing 6+ times per Q cast to make E max better, unless you're getting splash off on other champions obviously (but in lane I'd argue Q max is better, worst case max E second; stronger slow at level 9 also makes picks easier).
Most of her damage comes from her AD and the AP ratio initially so leveling E past the value first point doesn't sound too interesting.

At level 9:
Q Max: 260 + 30/attack
E Max: 110 + 60/attack

E max needs to bridge 150 damage, which is only 5 attacks.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 13 2014 15:21 GMT
#876
Gahlo, why are you assuming R1 E at 9 for the first case but R2 Q at 9 for the second?
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-13 15:23:27
October 13 2014 15:22 GMT
#877
On October 14 2014 00:21 Seuss wrote:
Gahlo, why are you assuming R1 E at 9 for the first case but R2 Q at 9 for the second?

Good point, corrected.

Still less though.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 13 2014 15:28 GMT
#878
I wrote 5+ initially, but changed it to "6+" because they're equal at 5, meaning E becomes better for a 1v1 at the 6th attack. Just a minor thing.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 13 2014 15:30 GMT
#879
The reason why you Q max on Kayle in mid is because often times all you get to do in a trade is Q them + 1 auto, because as soon as you do they jump away with whatever movement skill they have.

If you're in a longer lane against somebody with "I'm not a bullshit assassin" mobility, E max seems fine IMO.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 13 2014 15:37 GMT
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