[Patch 4.18] Sion Reborn General Discussion - Page 152
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WiseBagus
Canada452 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On November 05 2014 05:30 Kinie wrote: Next champion's revealed. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-reveal/kalista-spear-vengeance-revealed Edit: First impressions: she's an ADC, what? Her AA range seems so short. That passive seems insane though, literally a free move/hop (like Ezreal E or Flash) after you AA something. But it looks like she won't be able to go over/through walls with it, so maybe not as strong as Flash or Ezreal E. The ult is going to troll people so damn hard. Definitely a champ you can't just pick in solo Q, this requires way too much coordination for a pub game. Unless her numbers on Q and E are off the walls insane, I can't see her being much more than Quinn-tier in terms of how good/bad of an ADC she is. She doesn't need to come melee to use half of her skills and she's hardcore lane bully if your Nami/Janna/otherlanedominantsupport knows what's up. Can't wait for soloqueue suffering and whine in chat about ultimate. | ||
Alaric
France45622 Posts
On November 05 2014 05:42 WiseBagus wrote: Why doesn't riot ever release numbers on their reveal pages? She's not even on the PBE, and stuff like champion spotlights avoid mentioning numbers too because it's more about the design intent and playstyle than numbers that will probably get changed shortly after. | ||
TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On November 05 2014 05:37 PrinceXizor wrote: Shes super hamfisted into a role, and has a ton of recycled abilities. seems about right. Not so 100% sure of the set-role stuff. Of course they want you to be an ADC with a linked support given their words, but it may very well be worth it to sack the W damage potential in lane to provide better ganks and safety for one of your off-laners. If the mana cost on E is low enough, like it appears to be in the video, then I could see Kalista working in the jungle easily enough given that the spears stack infinitely. I play Ashe and jungle Gnar though so maybe I just have weird taste | ||
RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On November 05 2014 05:42 Alaric wrote: I don't know whether that's cool or if I should sigh at their focus on some more mobility creep. I think just coyly smile at how there will inevitably be more use for her ulti on a support or jungler than on an adc role.and with her passive she might actually be able to jungle. even though everything about her screams i want you to play me as an adc. | ||
Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 05 2014 05:47 Fusilero wrote: That ult seems literally guaranteed to go wrong in so many ways in lomoQ Guaranteed to troll your initiator 100% of the time all the time! I wonder if you can buy more of her special item to change your soul-bound buddy? What's the range on the ult? Can I soul-bound my jungler and drag them to bot lane for MEGAGANKS? She seems cool but I wonder how fluid her kit is going to feel in the long run. I also wonder how many stacks you need on Rend before it one-shots the target. | ||
IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
On November 05 2014 05:16 Requizen wrote: They need to buff his ult back to reduce disables, it feels so lame to use now. they did buff his level 3 ult a bit but I think they should just add back the tenacity. I could see why it was op when they nerfed but every new champ since then has a built in escape. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 05 2014 05:47 RagequitBM wrote: Did I misread her ult. It looks like it gives a team mate TF ult, and then gives them a malphite ult after. That's pretty cool If the ult is actually global, she essentially has the ability to turn any champ into a split-pusher because she can pull them instantly out of trouble even if they get stunned (think Wisp from DotA and the ratting that entails). I'd guess it's not global based on the detailed description and the fact that that's way outside what Riot would consider to be an acceptable power level for that ability. Even semi-global it would be really bullshit. | ||
Gahlo
United States35117 Posts
On November 05 2014 05:43 Alaric wrote: She's not even on the PBE, and stuff like champion spotlights avoid mentioning numbers too because it's more about the design intent and playstyle than numbers that will probably get changed shortly after. Either way, patch is tomorrow so she'll get put up sometime tonight or tomorrow methinks. I think she's pretty cool. Internet, Nephenee custom skin pls. | ||
Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On November 05 2014 05:59 TheYango wrote: If the ult is actually global, she essentially has the ability to turn any champ into a split-pusher because she can pull them instantly out of trouble even if they get stunned (think Wisp from DotA and the ratting that entails). I'd guess it's not global based on the detailed description and the fact that that's way outside what Riot would consider to be an acceptable power level for that ability. Even semi-global it would be really bullshit. It's more Kotl than Wisp tbh. Wouldn't even say we see much Wisp ratting aside from the Tiny 1 shot all buildings base race. | ||
Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 05 2014 06:05 Requizen wrote: I wonder if that circle in the video is the range on it - seems likely imo That was my guess. On November 05 2014 06:04 Numy wrote: They basically gave her a conditional Kotl recall. It being global would be cool as you can only do it on one person anyway. It's more Kotl than Wisp tbh. Wouldn't even say we see much Wisp ratting aside from the Tiny 1 shot all buildings base race. Except KotL Recall is disabled by combat, which means theres a lot of bullshit situations where Wisp gets you out and KotL doesn't. Hence the comparison. | ||
cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On November 05 2014 05:47 RagequitBM wrote: Did I misread her ult. It looks like it gives a team mate TF ult, and then gives them a malphite ult after. That's pretty cool Nah, its basically a thresh lantern into Pulverize. Since she is allegedly an ADC, its a self-peel ability which you use to get your peeler closer to you to peel. | ||
Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 05 2014 06:06 cLutZ wrote: Nah, its basically a thresh lantern into Pulverize. Since she is allegedly an ADC, its a self-peel ability which you use to get your peeler closer to you to peel. Or you wait for your Malphite/Amumu/Zac to initiate and then pull them back. | ||
Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 05 2014 06:07 Requizen wrote: Or you wait for your Malphite/Amumu/Zac to initiate and then pull them back. It'd probably be more useful for assassins, they go in. Blow someone up then kalista bails them. | ||
Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On November 05 2014 06:07 Requizen wrote: Or you wait for your Malphite/Amumu/Zac to initiate and then pull them back. Or that, but that does "waste" half the spell's utility. | ||
oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On November 05 2014 06:07 Requizen wrote: Or you wait for your Malphite/Amumu/Zac to initiate and then pull them back. Ult is targeted by those pocket Lifestealers, it seems. | ||
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