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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
November 04 2014 21:10 GMT
#3041
On November 05 2014 05:30 Kinie wrote:
Next champion's revealed.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-reveal/kalista-spear-vengeance-revealed

Edit:

First impressions: she's an ADC, what? Her AA range seems so short. That passive seems insane though, literally a free move/hop (like Ezreal E or Flash) after you AA something. But it looks like she won't be able to go over/through walls with it, so maybe not as strong as Flash or Ezreal E. The ult is going to troll people so damn hard. Definitely a champ you can't just pick in solo Q, this requires way too much coordination for a pub game.

Unless her numbers on Q and E are off the walls insane, I can't see her being much more than Quinn-tier in terms of how good/bad of an ADC she is.


I have the opposite impression. She offers insane kite and chase with almost zero mechanical requirement and has an AoE CC engage tool. She also has poke/siege. At lower ELO's these are two things that ADC's desperately need. Her weakness looks to be low range and inability to do damage through creeps but she will almost certainly win 2v2's with a support who can focus even the slightest due to her mobility and bonus magic damage.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 04 2014 21:12 GMT
#3042
On November 05 2014 06:08 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:07 Requizen wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:06 cLutZ wrote:
On November 05 2014 05:47 RagequitBM wrote:
Did I misread her ult. It looks like it gives a team mate TF ult, and then gives them a malphite ult after. That's pretty cool


Nah, its basically a thresh lantern into Pulverize. Since she is allegedly an ADC, its a self-peel ability which you use to get your peeler closer to you to peel.

Or you wait for your Malphite/Amumu/Zac to initiate and then pull them back.


Or that, but that does "waste" half the spell's utility.

Malph ults -> pull him back -> he jumps out for a second knockup -> ??? -> Nexus
It's your boy Guzma!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-04 21:13:17
November 04 2014 21:12 GMT
#3043
Look like a very interesting champ can't wait to try her.

Ezreal e isn't even that good why compare a free skillshot dodge to it lol.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
November 04 2014 21:13 GMT
#3044
Uhh, it's really weird to give a champion 100% perfect, mindless stutter step when it's such a major skill on every other auto-attack reliant champion.
I am the Town Medic.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 04 2014 21:14 GMT
#3045
On November 05 2014 06:13 Alzadar wrote:
Uhh, it's really weird to give a champion 100% perfect, mindless stutter step when it's such a major skill on every other auto-attack reliant champion.

its not like riot hasn't been trending toward making it possible for low skill players to do things they see high skill players do, without actually being skilled.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-04 21:16:54
November 04 2014 21:16 GMT
#3046
It also feels like it would be really clunky to play if any attack order you start is forced to completion before the game allows you to move.

Not something you can judge before playing the champion, though.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 04 2014 21:16 GMT
#3047
Teleport or Kali?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
November 04 2014 21:17 GMT
#3048
The ult on her looks like she can only target and move the champ she's got in the radius of the circle, so it looks more like a repositioning tool than a Kotl recall.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
November 04 2014 21:17 GMT
#3049
so riot makes those patrol creeps for the new jungle and instantly recycle it for the new champion, so lazy.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 04 2014 21:20 GMT
#3050
Well it's just weavers old shade ability basically but not invisible.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 04 2014 21:21 GMT
#3051
On November 05 2014 06:20 Numy wrote:
Well it's just weavers old shade ability basically but not invisible.

and no micro required.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 04 2014 21:22 GMT
#3052
I'm curious why Riot seems intent on hemming her into being an ADC.
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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
November 04 2014 21:23 GMT
#3053
On November 05 2014 06:22 TheYango wrote:
I'm curious why Riot seems intent on hemming her into being an ADC.


Honestly I think she'd work better as a mid laner.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 04 2014 21:24 GMT
#3054
On November 05 2014 06:22 TheYango wrote:
I'm curious why Riot seems intent on hemming her into being an ADC.

She's not an ADC, she's a Markswoman.
It's your boy Guzma!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
November 04 2014 21:25 GMT
#3055
On November 05 2014 06:23 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:22 TheYango wrote:
I'm curious why Riot seems intent on hemming her into being an ADC.


Honestly I think she'd work better as a mid laner.

Yea ranged yasuo for champs with skillshots gonna be true terror.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-04 21:32:38
November 04 2014 21:28 GMT
#3056
On November 05 2014 06:16 TheYango wrote:
It also feels like it would be really clunky to play if any attack order you start is forced to completion before the game allows you to move.

Not something you can judge before playing the champion, though.

League of Dark Souls?

oh god the passive reminds me of lucian e, kiting could be pretty absurd with fast as.
liftlift > tsm
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-04 21:30:15
November 04 2014 21:29 GMT
#3057
On November 05 2014 06:22 TheYango wrote:
I'm curious why Riot seems intent on hemming her into being an ADC.

thats been the riot MO for the past year. I'd like to know the reason but i suspect it'd just be a bunch of buzzwords thrown at me like clarity and player experience.

its really interesting that "champion diversity" is one of the first words said in her reveal, but she just has expunge, nid spear/ nid auto -> insta pounce, and an improved version of hawkshot. her ultimate is the only new thing, and its mostly like a champion version of syndra's grab/throw.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
November 04 2014 21:31 GMT
#3058
Patch 4.19 notes are out, prepare for new thread.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 04 2014 21:40 GMT
#3059
On November 05 2014 06:31 Kinie wrote:
Patch 4.19 notes are out, prepare for new thread.

Really big buff to tank sion.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-04 21:44:22
November 04 2014 21:42 GMT
#3060
It's a bit late for reaper soraka no?
The skin seems cool but like, surely it should have come out for Halloween?
Glorious SEA doto
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