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MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 02:29:34
September 12 2014 01:42 GMT
#361
Maybe he meant Nasus Q stacks and not actual CS? That would be a much more reasonable claim

EDIT: Maxing W second also helps assist ganks if your lane opponent lacks an ability-based gapcloser. In my opinion, E max is more of a desperation alternative in an otherwise difficult lane.
Trust in Bayes.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 12 2014 01:45 GMT
#362
clearly i was talking about q stacks cuz the original context was stacks and not cs
reading hard i know
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miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 12 2014 01:54 GMT
#363
On September 12 2014 10:04 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 09:52 miicah wrote:
On September 12 2014 09:47 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 12 2014 09:37 Ryuu314 wrote:
Jax thrives in 1v1. You don't really beat Jax after he gets farm/levels unless he's bad or you are somehow able to dodge his E.

That being said, Frozen Heart + 40% cdr Wither should be able to let you duel Jax reasonably well.

If you're talking teamfight, it really depends. Wither really really shuts down Jax for the duration of the spell, but Nasus wrecks AD carries if you can get to them (which is somewhat hard nowadays after all the range nerfs).


Good eye! That's pretty much what happens, he throws everything at me and I don't win duels but it's near even if I have the damage.

Do you have suggestions for items? After Trinity Force I'm pretty lost.



Did you max E second (spirit fire) like Snoopeh did? You really need to max W (wither) second versus a Jax. Your item build was fine although I probably would have gone Iceborn Gauntlet instead of Triforce.

Look up sirhcez, he's a Diamond 1 Nasus main for more tips.

http://www.twitch.tv/sirhcez
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/19717808


Trinity isn't good? I love Trinity and I get Iceborn after Triforce (I just won this game: )

Why is Wither more important for Jax? Is it because of his attack speed? Are there other champs I should max W first? I by mistake maxed Wither against Pantheon but I wrecked him so hard, it was awesome!

I also get Sunfire Cape if the other team has a ton of melee.


Iceborn + Tri is not that great, because you waste the extra sheen (the procs don't stack).
@miicah88
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
September 12 2014 01:56 GMT
#364
On September 12 2014 10:04 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 09:52 miicah wrote:
On September 12 2014 09:47 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 12 2014 09:37 Ryuu314 wrote:
Jax thrives in 1v1. You don't really beat Jax after he gets farm/levels unless he's bad or you are somehow able to dodge his E.

That being said, Frozen Heart + 40% cdr Wither should be able to let you duel Jax reasonably well.

If you're talking teamfight, it really depends. Wither really really shuts down Jax for the duration of the spell, but Nasus wrecks AD carries if you can get to them (which is somewhat hard nowadays after all the range nerfs).


Good eye! That's pretty much what happens, he throws everything at me and I don't win duels but it's near even if I have the damage.

Do you have suggestions for items? After Trinity Force I'm pretty lost.



Did you max E second (spirit fire) like Snoopeh did? You really need to max W (wither) second versus a Jax. Your item build was fine although I probably would have gone Iceborn Gauntlet instead of Triforce.

Look up sirhcez, he's a Diamond 1 Nasus main for more tips.

http://www.twitch.tv/sirhcez
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/19717808


Trinity isn't good? I love Trinity and I get Iceborn after Triforce (I just won this game: )

Why is Wither more important for Jax? Is it because of his attack speed? Are there other champs I should max W first? I by mistake maxed Wither against Pantheon but I wrecked him so hard, it was awesome!

I also get Sunfire Cape if the other team has a ton of melee.


Nonononononono. Triforce and IBG do NOT work together. If you know DotA 2, imagine the proc being like an orb effect that only triggers for a short while after you used a spell. You only get the AA modifier of the last item you bought. The only reason you buy Triforce is because of the DPS of the proc. If you have both, you lose that.

Also yes. Jax is entirely AA based. If he takes free damage without hitting someone in return he dies horribly.

Should you ever encounter a Vayne top and not feed like a retard you can also max Wither vs her. Else just max Q and stack the jungle or smth... But in this day and age you probably never meet one.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 01:57:35
September 12 2014 01:57 GMT
#365
On September 12 2014 10:56 Celial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 10:04 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 12 2014 09:52 miicah wrote:
On September 12 2014 09:47 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 12 2014 09:37 Ryuu314 wrote:
Jax thrives in 1v1. You don't really beat Jax after he gets farm/levels unless he's bad or you are somehow able to dodge his E.

That being said, Frozen Heart + 40% cdr Wither should be able to let you duel Jax reasonably well.

If you're talking teamfight, it really depends. Wither really really shuts down Jax for the duration of the spell, but Nasus wrecks AD carries if you can get to them (which is somewhat hard nowadays after all the range nerfs).


Good eye! That's pretty much what happens, he throws everything at me and I don't win duels but it's near even if I have the damage.

Do you have suggestions for items? After Trinity Force I'm pretty lost.



Did you max E second (spirit fire) like Snoopeh did? You really need to max W (wither) second versus a Jax. Your item build was fine although I probably would have gone Iceborn Gauntlet instead of Triforce.

Look up sirhcez, he's a Diamond 1 Nasus main for more tips.

http://www.twitch.tv/sirhcez
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/19717808


Trinity isn't good? I love Trinity and I get Iceborn after Triforce (I just won this game: )

Why is Wither more important for Jax? Is it because of his attack speed? Are there other champs I should max W first? I by mistake maxed Wither against Pantheon but I wrecked him so hard, it was awesome!

I also get Sunfire Cape if the other team has a ton of melee.


Nonononononono. Triforce and IBG do NOT work together. If you know DotA 2, imagine the proc being like an orb effect that only triggers for a short while after you used a spell. You only get the AA modifier of the last item you bought. The only reason you buy Triforce is because of the DPS of the proc. If you have both, you lose that.

Also yes. Jax is entirely AA based. If he takes free damage without hitting someone in return he dies horribly.

Should you ever encounter a Vayne top and not feed like a retard you can also max Wither vs her. Else just max Q and stack the jungle or smth... But in this day and age you probably never meet one.

Actually, they do. You get the slow field with TF's stronger sheen hit.

Not that I'd ever suggest people buy both.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 02:29:29
September 12 2014 02:25 GMT
#366
it was in the last patch, previously yes, iceborn would override the 200% damage, but now you get both (not stacking, 200% + slow circle doing 125%)
Carrilord has arrived.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
September 12 2014 02:42 GMT
#367
On September 12 2014 11:25 Slusher wrote:
it was in the last patch, previously yes, iceborn would override the 200% damage, but now you get both (not stacking, 200% + slow circle doing 125%)

holy shit i know what i'm doing next game LOL
Bronze player stuck in platinum
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
September 12 2014 02:46 GMT
#368
On September 12 2014 10:45 FinestHour wrote:
clearly i was talking about q stacks cuz the original context was stacks and not cs
reading hard i know


"Clearly"

On September 12 2014 09:05 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 08:51 sob3k wrote:
On September 12 2014 08:32 Torte de Lini wrote:

How much CS is considered good?


it's highly dependent on the situation and the matchup, just concentrate on getting more than your lane opponent and not missing any that you attempt.

I was told a long time ago that 160 @ 20 for a standard lane is a pretty good goal to aim at.
obviously feeding/super aggro kill lanes may be less
passive lanes may be quite a bit higher(especially for mid lane imo)


Yes, reading is hard, but you could've tried re-reading the post before insinuating that it's everyone else who misread.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 12 2014 02:51 GMT
#369
On September 12 2014 11:42 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 11:25 Slusher wrote:
it was in the last patch, previously yes, iceborn would override the 200% damage, but now you get both (not stacking, 200% + slow circle doing 125%)

holy shit i know what i'm doing next game LOL


if you do it with Nidalee I'm pretty sure you need to sacrifice a lamb on a sunday to make peace with god afterwards.
Carrilord has arrived.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 12 2014 02:56 GMT
#370
On September 12 2014 11:46 bmn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 10:45 FinestHour wrote:
clearly i was talking about q stacks cuz the original context was stacks and not cs
reading hard i know


"Clearly"

Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 09:05 arb wrote:
On September 12 2014 08:51 sob3k wrote:
On September 12 2014 08:32 Torte de Lini wrote:

How much CS is considered good?


it's highly dependent on the situation and the matchup, just concentrate on getting more than your lane opponent and not missing any that you attempt.

I was told a long time ago that 160 @ 20 for a standard lane is a pretty good goal to aim at.
obviously feeding/super aggro kill lanes may be less
passive lanes may be quite a bit higher(especially for mid lane imo)


Yes, reading is hard, but you could've tried re-reading the post before insinuating that it's everyone else who misread.

Who cares. Let's move back to positive comments and shit.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
September 12 2014 02:58 GMT
#371
On September 12 2014 11:51 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 11:42 Nos- wrote:
On September 12 2014 11:25 Slusher wrote:
it was in the last patch, previously yes, iceborn would override the 200% damage, but now you get both (not stacking, 200% + slow circle doing 125%)

holy shit i know what i'm doing next game LOL


if you do it with Nidalee I'm pretty sure you need to sacrifice a lamb on a sunday to make peace with god afterwards.

Dark Lord Kakao is amused by the havoc.
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
September 12 2014 03:04 GMT
#372
On September 12 2014 11:51 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 11:42 Nos- wrote:
On September 12 2014 11:25 Slusher wrote:
it was in the last patch, previously yes, iceborn would override the 200% damage, but now you get both (not stacking, 200% + slow circle doing 125%)

holy shit i know what i'm doing next game LOL


if you do it with Nidalee I'm pretty sure you need to sacrifice a lamb on a sunday to make peace with god afterwards.


Doing this next time I'm guilted into playing League instead of Dota.
Steam: rook492
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 03:29:52
September 12 2014 03:21 GMT
#373
why is full ad recommended for kayle in desert mode wtf actually wow this is hilarious ROFL
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 03:35:04
September 12 2014 03:33 GMT
#374
T8 T8 T8 T8 T8

RIP COL

edit: wrong thread ...oops
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
September 12 2014 03:48 GMT
#375
Worlds groupstages - bo3 or 1?
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
September 12 2014 03:54 GMT
#376
On September 12 2014 12:48 Celial wrote:
Worlds groupstages - bo3 or 1?

Double round robin (bo2.)
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 12 2014 04:00 GMT
#377
Not content with nerfing Viktor once, they're nerfing him again

http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/KiVchOFE-central-feedback-thread-for-viktor-gameplay-update
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-12 04:07:01
September 12 2014 04:06 GMT
#378
Im pretty confident that orignal incarnation of new Viktor was not a nerf.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
September 12 2014 04:10 GMT
#379
after trying the new cass i gotta say i love it.. did her twin fang always give mana back?
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 12 2014 04:13 GMT
#380
On September 12 2014 13:06 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Im pretty confident that orignal incarnation of new Viktor was not a nerf.


That's because it wasn't.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
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