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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 21:24:44
September 11 2014 21:17 GMT
#321
Cass feels absurdly weak to me now. The problem is they gutted her damage early and force her to farm stacks a lot, but Twin Fang's mana cost is obscene at level 5 (90 mana). It feels like to get back to where she was before (or exceed) you probably need 3 items and 400 stacks, but she probably doesn't even scale half as good as Ryze (and she should probably be better considering she doesn't get to zoom zoom with a really low cooldown ult and isn't tanky at all).

They need to reduce the mana cost on her twin fang (by like 20-30 at level 5). Probably restore some of the q scaling (and maybe remove some from the final level of the passive- it blows my mind they removed over half the ratio of q). And then lower the stacking mechanism to 150 and 300 for the last two levels. They basically removed any ability to have kill potential on an opponent early unless they're comically inept, so she needs to get a lot in return late.

Edit: Even if they fix the bug on her E, I'm extremely skeptical she'll be okay.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
September 11 2014 21:18 GMT
#322
On September 12 2014 06:00 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 05:31 Alzadar wrote:
S2 and S3 winners have skins, only fair that S1 should as well. They will sell well too since there will be FNC hype from worlds.

S1 was a joke tho.


I didn't play then, what do you mean by that? Obviously level of play was vastly lower than now, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a legitimate competition.
I am the Town Medic.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 11 2014 21:18 GMT
#323
On September 12 2014 01:38 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 01:36 Slusher wrote:
Also she sorta suffers from the Nasus effect in that harassing comes at the cost of stacks, which you desperately need to not be useless later

But poisoned champions give stacks every second...


yea I realized that was a retarded post like 10 sec later but I was busy zz
Carrilord has arrived.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 11 2014 21:44 GMT
#324
I thought I earned the perfect ascension Icon, but I guess I didn't, and my enemy team got ascended a few times.

So, does anyone want to try-hard with me and play a perfect ascension game?

I think easiest way to do it is either get like Akali Ascended, and then have like Raka or something. But like... Man this seems hard to do. With no smite its silly easy to get Xerath stolen.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21666 Posts
September 11 2014 21:45 GMT
#325
On September 12 2014 06:44 iCanada wrote:
I thought I earned the perfect ascension Icon, but I guess I didn't, and my enemy team got ascended a few times.

So, does anyone want to try-hard with me and play a perfect ascension game?

I think easiest way to do it is either get like Akali Ascended, and then have like Raka or something. But like... Man this seems hard to do. With no smite its silly easy to get Xerath stolen.

Or just play enough for the inevitable 4v5 easy win.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
September 11 2014 21:46 GMT
#326
On September 12 2014 06:44 iCanada wrote:
I thought I earned the perfect ascension Icon, but I guess I didn't, and my enemy team got ascended a few times.

So, does anyone want to try-hard with me and play a perfect ascension game?

I think easiest way to do it is either get like Akali Ascended, and then have like Raka or something. But like... Man this seems hard to do. With no smite its silly easy to get Xerath stolen.

You have to go to the site to redeem icons.

On September 12 2014 05:40 Terranasaur wrote:
Those skins are garbage.


All Championship skins are imo.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 11 2014 21:54 GMT
#327
On September 12 2014 06:46 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 06:44 iCanada wrote:
I thought I earned the perfect ascension Icon, but I guess I didn't, and my enemy team got ascended a few times.

So, does anyone want to try-hard with me and play a perfect ascension game?

I think easiest way to do it is either get like Akali Ascended, and then have like Raka or something. But like... Man this seems hard to do. With no smite its silly easy to get Xerath stolen.

You have to go to the site to redeem icons.

Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 05:40 Terranasaur wrote:
Those skins are garbage.


All Championship skins are imo.


Still need the perfect ascension one. QQ
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
September 11 2014 22:05 GMT
#328
Perfect ascension seems pretty straightforward with a 5 stack since all you need is reasonable draft and coordination.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 22:06:46
September 11 2014 22:05 GMT
#329
I'm telling you dudes, Morde is THE BEST ascended champion in the game, kill someone with ult = 2 heros doing ascended damage, cast w on youself and walk at people you will out damage them whist gaining shield faster than they can damage you

everyone is spamming assasins too, so it's super easy to get a ghost that does a shitload of damage.
Carrilord has arrived.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 11 2014 22:07 GMT
#330
On September 12 2014 07:05 xes wrote:
Perfect ascension seems pretty straightforward with a 5 stack since all you need is reasonable draft and coordination.


See, the problem here is I dont have friends. lol.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
September 11 2014 22:07 GMT
#331
Kayle is pretty beast too.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 22:17:50
September 11 2014 22:15 GMT
#332
the thing about Morde is his heal mechanic is a shield so it isn't reduced by the buff, making it bonkers
also the mode has a ton of objectives with brush nearby so you don't get kited nearly as bad as SR, and if you get the ascended buff you are the objective.
Carrilord has arrived.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 11 2014 22:17 GMT
#333
Ascension is pretty fast and fun.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 22:34:46
September 11 2014 22:33 GMT
#334
Do you need to get all the members on your team ascended, and no one on other team, or just one member on your team?

Because I feel like it should have worked last game but it didn't.

EDIT: JK, it just lagged.

Just pick Raka, and in any game which your team gets ascended, heal them forever so they never die.

:D
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 23:05:49
September 11 2014 23:05 GMT
#335
Ascension is just mini dominion. If I want fast and fun I think I would play it over dominon. If I don't want fast and fun I would just play SR. Dominion is just stuck in mediocrity between SR and Ascension.

In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 11 2014 23:09 GMT
#336
I just ascended as Fizz. This seemed to do almost nothing for me, but I guess it was late and Fizzing everyone before...
Freeeeeeedom
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 23:16:46
September 11 2014 23:12 GMT
#337
On September 12 2014 03:59 FinestHour wrote:
never ever max spirit fire over other two abilities
like ever
period


http://www.probuilds.net/guide/NA/1276091586/25289733

Im using this build for Nasus

I also don't understand Siphoning Strike a bit, can anyone explain it?

or this one? http://www.probuilds.net/guide/NA/1532384713/19674238

I don't want to fight early, I want to farm.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-11 23:28:17
September 11 2014 23:26 GMT
#338
On September 12 2014 08:09 cLutZ wrote:
I just ascended as Fizz. This seemed to do almost nothing for me, but I guess it was late and Fizzing everyone before...


Ascension gives you like:

25% CDR
250 AD
250 AP
500 HP
Infinite Mana
30% Armor Pen
30% Magic Pen

Anyone that likes Gunblade is OP as fuck when Ascended. Akali, Jax, Kat, Kayle, Warwick, etc. These guys just become absurd with Ascension. Hecarim I bet too is probably scary. Never seen it though.

On September 12 2014 08:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 03:59 FinestHour wrote:
never ever max spirit fire over other two abilities
like ever
period


http://www.probuilds.net/guide/NA/1276091586/25289733

Im using this build for Nasus

I also don't understand Siphoning Strike a bit, can anyone explain it?

or this one? http://www.probuilds.net/guide/NA/1532384713/19674238

I don't want to fight early, I want to farm.


When you kill stuff with your Q, it does more damage for the rest of the game, basically.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 11 2014 23:28 GMT
#339
On September 12 2014 08:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 03:59 FinestHour wrote:
never ever max spirit fire over other two abilities
like ever
period


http://www.probuilds.net/guide/NA/1276091586/25289733

Im using this build for Nasus

I also don't understand Siphoning Strike a bit, can anyone explain it?

or this one? http://www.probuilds.net/guide/NA/1532384713/19674238

I don't want to fight early, I want to farm.

You gain permanent stacks whenever you kill something with Q, including structures. Q adds these stacks to the base damage and the ratio whenever it deals damage, so it effectively scales through farming as long as you use it to last hit minions. During the midgame you can almost one-shot people if you farmed your Q well enough.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 11 2014 23:32 GMT
#340
On September 12 2014 08:28 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 08:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 12 2014 03:59 FinestHour wrote:
never ever max spirit fire over other two abilities
like ever
period


http://www.probuilds.net/guide/NA/1276091586/25289733

Im using this build for Nasus

I also don't understand Siphoning Strike a bit, can anyone explain it?

or this one? http://www.probuilds.net/guide/NA/1532384713/19674238

I don't want to fight early, I want to farm.

You gain permanent stacks whenever you kill something with Q, including structures. Q adds these stacks to the base damage and the ratio whenever it deals damage, so it effectively scales through farming as long as you use it to last hit minions. During the midgame you can almost one-shot people if you farmed your Q well enough.


How much CS is considered good?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
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