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his rank 1 ult needs range extention not mana reduction.
the range after the nerf makes it extremely hard to use
I'm not trying to say they should do it, but if are going to try to bring him back into play thru buffing his ult, the rank 1 range is the only way. Q mana reduction also won't help him much unless someone finds a good build that for him that does not involve tear, Urgot probly about the same as before.
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I don't really ever want to play against urgot botlane
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On August 14 2014 05:20 Fildun wrote: Ok guys where do I post awesome chatlogs? I'm not quite sure because it isn't me QQ'ing but the LoCicero thread also seems kinda inappropriate
just post our convo here or in OT in spoiler or smth i have a collection in teutparty too but its just a.txt file
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On August 14 2014 02:02 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2014 01:39 Dark_Chill wrote: I don't see a problem with being around a lot. If she hasn't been dominant, then I don't know why there's a problem. Having staple picks is pretty good for a game. Because she's the staple "I crowd out all the other utility mages." When utility mages are desirable, she's the #1 pick of them and stays that way until the meta changes. There is no reason to pick a utility mage that isn't Orianna. This is just untrue. People picked Lulu all the time for a utility mage until she was nerfed out of mid lane. Its true that Orianna is currently the #1 utility mage, but that is because she is the only worthwhile utility mage.
Its not like this nerf is bringing Lulu mid back, nor does Riot appear to have plans to bring back Anivia, Morgana, or Zyra to midlane. At this moment, and at most moments since S2 ended Orianna has represented champion diversity, because she was the only champion that Riot let be viable at a useful and core midlane niche.
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nerfing Ori's ad as opposed to anything else has a lot more to do with assasins than anything else
I'm not really sure what the argument is here, her nerf fits riots balance padagrim of most played = op so considering she's been a safe blind pick for like 2 years I'm not surprised, once again this falls into more of a disagreement with riot balance in general where strong pick =/= op
but in my personal opinion you can say the morg nerf in this same patch is guilty of the same shit, thats just how Riot does and has done things for a long time now
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Don't know if it's a bug or Rito did that on purpose but Jarvan's models is bugged or they made him smaller... I've played 2 games with him with different skins and damn, he's smaller, I swear !
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Lubu looks as tall as always oO
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Every single taunt from the new Veigar skin is a direct quote from another game.
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On August 14 2014 06:53 Sufficiency wrote: Every single taunt from the new Veigar skin is a direct quote from another game. Not a direct quote but everything is a reference to something yeah.
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According to lol wiki they are direct quote word by word. Maybe it is wrong.
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I miss the high pitched voice , small qualm though it's really good.
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"What is a champion?A miserable little pile of pixels" the one I remember from the video with all quotes.Could be the only exception though I wasn't listening that carefully.
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I really wish that when new champion/skins came out Riot would set their recommended (spectate) games script to look for them, I really like to use spectate to preview the new stuff but it can take a lot of effort some days.
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On August 14 2014 05:42 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2014 02:02 Gahlo wrote:On August 14 2014 01:39 Dark_Chill wrote: I don't see a problem with being around a lot. If she hasn't been dominant, then I don't know why there's a problem. Having staple picks is pretty good for a game. Because she's the staple "I crowd out all the other utility mages." When utility mages are desirable, she's the #1 pick of them and stays that way until the meta changes. There is no reason to pick a utility mage that isn't Orianna. This is just untrue. People picked Lulu all the time for a utility mage until she was nerfed out of mid lane. Its true that Orianna is currently the #1 utility mage, but that is because she is the only worthwhile utility mage. Its not like this nerf is bringing Lulu mid back, nor does Riot appear to have plans to bring back Anivia, Morgana, or Zyra to midlane. At this moment, and at most moments since S2 ended Orianna has represented champion diversity, because she was the only champion that Riot let be viable at a useful and core midlane niche. That's because Lulu was clearly OP. Yet Riot has let Orianna skate by for a long, long time.
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On August 14 2014 07:13 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2014 05:42 cLutZ wrote:On August 14 2014 02:02 Gahlo wrote:On August 14 2014 01:39 Dark_Chill wrote: I don't see a problem with being around a lot. If she hasn't been dominant, then I don't know why there's a problem. Having staple picks is pretty good for a game. Because she's the staple "I crowd out all the other utility mages." When utility mages are desirable, she's the #1 pick of them and stays that way until the meta changes. There is no reason to pick a utility mage that isn't Orianna. This is just untrue. People picked Lulu all the time for a utility mage until she was nerfed out of mid lane. Its true that Orianna is currently the #1 utility mage, but that is because she is the only worthwhile utility mage. Its not like this nerf is bringing Lulu mid back, nor does Riot appear to have plans to bring back Anivia, Morgana, or Zyra to midlane. At this moment, and at most moments since S2 ended Orianna has represented champion diversity, because she was the only champion that Riot let be viable at a useful and core midlane niche. That's because Lulu was clearly OP. Yet Riot has let Orianna skate by for a long, long time. You keep dodging the question of what utility mages this is going to let shine.
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On August 14 2014 07:16 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2014 07:13 Gahlo wrote:On August 14 2014 05:42 cLutZ wrote:On August 14 2014 02:02 Gahlo wrote:On August 14 2014 01:39 Dark_Chill wrote: I don't see a problem with being around a lot. If she hasn't been dominant, then I don't know why there's a problem. Having staple picks is pretty good for a game. Because she's the staple "I crowd out all the other utility mages." When utility mages are desirable, she's the #1 pick of them and stays that way until the meta changes. There is no reason to pick a utility mage that isn't Orianna. This is just untrue. People picked Lulu all the time for a utility mage until she was nerfed out of mid lane. Its true that Orianna is currently the #1 utility mage, but that is because she is the only worthwhile utility mage. Its not like this nerf is bringing Lulu mid back, nor does Riot appear to have plans to bring back Anivia, Morgana, or Zyra to midlane. At this moment, and at most moments since S2 ended Orianna has represented champion diversity, because she was the only champion that Riot let be viable at a useful and core midlane niche. That's because Lulu was clearly OP. Yet Riot has let Orianna skate by for a long, long time. You keep dodging the question of what utility mages this is going to let shine. Nor was I asked it.
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On August 14 2014 07:30 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2014 07:16 cLutZ wrote:On August 14 2014 07:13 Gahlo wrote:On August 14 2014 05:42 cLutZ wrote:On August 14 2014 02:02 Gahlo wrote:On August 14 2014 01:39 Dark_Chill wrote: I don't see a problem with being around a lot. If she hasn't been dominant, then I don't know why there's a problem. Having staple picks is pretty good for a game. Because she's the staple "I crowd out all the other utility mages." When utility mages are desirable, she's the #1 pick of them and stays that way until the meta changes. There is no reason to pick a utility mage that isn't Orianna. This is just untrue. People picked Lulu all the time for a utility mage until she was nerfed out of mid lane. Its true that Orianna is currently the #1 utility mage, but that is because she is the only worthwhile utility mage. Its not like this nerf is bringing Lulu mid back, nor does Riot appear to have plans to bring back Anivia, Morgana, or Zyra to midlane. At this moment, and at most moments since S2 ended Orianna has represented champion diversity, because she was the only champion that Riot let be viable at a useful and core midlane niche. That's because Lulu was clearly OP. Yet Riot has let Orianna skate by for a long, long time. You keep dodging the question of what utility mages this is going to let shine. Nor was I asked it.
You are being obstinate, because the question was implied in all of the replies. Maybe you just don't like utility mages in the midlane.
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Is Garen vs Nidalee all but hopeless?
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