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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
the range after the nerf makes it extremely hard to use I'm not trying to say they should do it, but if are going to try to bring him back into play thru buffing his ult, the rank 1 range is the only way. Q mana reduction also won't help him much unless someone finds a good build that for him that does not involve tear, Urgot probly about the same as before. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On August 14 2014 05:20 Fildun wrote: Ok guys where do I post awesome chatlogs? I'm not quite sure because it isn't me QQ'ing but the LoCicero thread also seems kinda inappropriate just post our convo here or in OT in spoiler or smth i have a collection in teutparty too but its just a.txt file | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On August 14 2014 02:02 Gahlo wrote: Because she's the staple "I crowd out all the other utility mages." When utility mages are desirable, she's the #1 pick of them and stays that way until the meta changes. There is no reason to pick a utility mage that isn't Orianna. This is just untrue. People picked Lulu all the time for a utility mage until she was nerfed out of mid lane. Its true that Orianna is currently the #1 utility mage, but that is because she is the only worthwhile utility mage. Its not like this nerf is bringing Lulu mid back, nor does Riot appear to have plans to bring back Anivia, Morgana, or Zyra to midlane. At this moment, and at most moments since S2 ended Orianna has represented champion diversity, because she was the only champion that Riot let be viable at a useful and core midlane niche. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
I'm not really sure what the argument is here, her nerf fits riots balance padagrim of most played = op so considering she's been a safe blind pick for like 2 years I'm not surprised, once again this falls into more of a disagreement with riot balance in general where strong pick =/= op but in my personal opinion you can say the morg nerf in this same patch is guilty of the same shit, thats just how Riot does and has done things for a long time now | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
On August 14 2014 05:20 Fildun wrote: Ok guys where do I post awesome chatlogs? I'm not quite sure because it isn't me QQ'ing but the LoCicero thread also seems kinda inappropriate i feel like http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/league-of-legends/199350-lol-sfw-random-pics-and-vids?page=286 would work | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On August 14 2014 06:53 Sufficiency wrote: Every single taunt from the new Veigar skin is a direct quote from another game. Not a direct quote but everything is a reference to something yeah. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
 , small qualm though it's really good. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On August 14 2014 05:42 cLutZ wrote: This is just untrue. People picked Lulu all the time for a utility mage until she was nerfed out of mid lane. Its true that Orianna is currently the #1 utility mage, but that is because she is the only worthwhile utility mage. Its not like this nerf is bringing Lulu mid back, nor does Riot appear to have plans to bring back Anivia, Morgana, or Zyra to midlane. At this moment, and at most moments since S2 ended Orianna has represented champion diversity, because she was the only champion that Riot let be viable at a useful and core midlane niche. That's because Lulu was clearly OP. Yet Riot has let Orianna skate by for a long, long time. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On August 14 2014 07:13 Gahlo wrote: That's because Lulu was clearly OP. Yet Riot has let Orianna skate by for a long, long time. You keep dodging the question of what utility mages this is going to let shine. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/TuK00Es7-towards-a-better-balancing-paradigm | ||
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On August 14 2014 07:16 cLutZ wrote: You keep dodging the question of what utility mages this is going to let shine. Nor was I asked it. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
You are being obstinate, because the question was implied in all of the replies. Maybe you just don't like utility mages in the midlane. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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