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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 13 2014 22:47 GMT
#221
--- Nuked ---
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 22:50:37
August 13 2014 22:48 GMT
#222
That's not "western", that's (north) american.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 23:18:15
August 13 2014 23:17 GMT
#223
Upon consideration I am going for the following champion pool for my alt account. The goal here is to play some (obscure?) champions I would not normally play. Furthermore, I wan to try to play more aggressive early game champions and/or splitpushers when possible.

Top lane:

Garen, Tryndamere.

Jungle:

Nocturne (I am like 31-38 right now. Meh.), Yi. Also considering one of Sejuani/Pony/Fiddle/Nautilus/Rammus/Udyr

Mid:

Annie, Swain? (still need IP to buy him)

ADC:

Ashe

Support:

Taric, Blitzcrank
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 13 2014 23:25 GMT
#224
New Veigar skin.

Best skin ever.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6182 Posts
August 13 2014 23:25 GMT
#225
if you want to paly agressive early, u can try fiora top.
n_n
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
August 13 2014 23:30 GMT
#226
Jarvan is pretty beastly right now.

On August 14 2014 07:35 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 07:30 Gahlo wrote:
On August 14 2014 07:16 cLutZ wrote:
On August 14 2014 07:13 Gahlo wrote:
On August 14 2014 05:42 cLutZ wrote:
On August 14 2014 02:02 Gahlo wrote:
On August 14 2014 01:39 Dark_Chill wrote:
I don't see a problem with being around a lot. If she hasn't been dominant, then I don't know why there's a problem. Having staple picks is pretty good for a game.

Because she's the staple "I crowd out all the other utility mages." When utility mages are desirable, she's the #1 pick of them and stays that way until the meta changes. There is no reason to pick a utility mage that isn't Orianna.

This is just untrue. People picked Lulu all the time for a utility mage until she was nerfed out of mid lane. Its true that Orianna is currently the #1 utility mage, but that is because she is the only worthwhile utility mage.

Its not like this nerf is bringing Lulu mid back, nor does Riot appear to have plans to bring back Anivia, Morgana, or Zyra to midlane. At this moment, and at most moments since S2 ended Orianna has represented champion diversity, because she was the only champion that Riot let be viable at a useful and core midlane niche.

That's because Lulu was clearly OP. Yet Riot has let Orianna skate by for a long, long time.

You keep dodging the question of what utility mages this is going to let shine.

Nor was I asked it.


You are being obstinate, because the question was implied in all of the replies. Maybe you just don't like utility mages in the midlane.

I just don't like when "utility mages" are strong in a meta and the only one that gets picked is Orianna. At that point, saying utility mages are strong is a misnomer, it's just Orianna. As an aside, I do think that Orianna is one of the better balanced champions in the game.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 13 2014 23:31 GMT
#227
On August 14 2014 08:25 FaCE_1 wrote:
if you want to paly agressive early, u can try fiora top.


To be honest I do, but:

1. 6300 IP is kind of pricy.
2. She has a rework Soon(tm).
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
August 13 2014 23:32 GMT
#228
Here's the only champion pool you ever need, buddy:

Quinn
:3
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 13 2014 23:37 GMT
#229
Top: Poppy
Mid: victor
support: velkoz
jungle: poppy
adc: quinn



how is that for obscure.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
August 13 2014 23:40 GMT
#230
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/upcoming-pando-media-booster-removal

Why would Riot bother developing their own P2P solution when Bittorrent works just fine?
@miicah88
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 23:47:43
August 13 2014 23:47 GMT
#231
On August 14 2014 08:37 LaNague wrote:
Top: Poppy
Mid: victor
support: velkoz
jungle: poppy
adc: quinn



how is that for obscure.


To be honest, I am not convinced that Poppy is even remotely good. I could try it (because she is 450 IP) but I am not getting my hopes up. The other ones are too pricy.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 13 2014 23:48 GMT
#232
By the way, I think NA died.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 13 2014 23:49 GMT
#233
is ranked disabled right now
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 00:03:10
August 13 2014 23:51 GMT
#234
On August 14 2014 08:30 Gahlo wrote:
Jarvan is pretty beastly right now.

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 07:35 cLutZ wrote:
On August 14 2014 07:30 Gahlo wrote:
On August 14 2014 07:16 cLutZ wrote:
On August 14 2014 07:13 Gahlo wrote:
On August 14 2014 05:42 cLutZ wrote:
On August 14 2014 02:02 Gahlo wrote:
On August 14 2014 01:39 Dark_Chill wrote:
I don't see a problem with being around a lot. If she hasn't been dominant, then I don't know why there's a problem. Having staple picks is pretty good for a game.

Because she's the staple "I crowd out all the other utility mages." When utility mages are desirable, she's the #1 pick of them and stays that way until the meta changes. There is no reason to pick a utility mage that isn't Orianna.

This is just untrue. People picked Lulu all the time for a utility mage until she was nerfed out of mid lane. Its true that Orianna is currently the #1 utility mage, but that is because she is the only worthwhile utility mage.

Its not like this nerf is bringing Lulu mid back, nor does Riot appear to have plans to bring back Anivia, Morgana, or Zyra to midlane. At this moment, and at most moments since S2 ended Orianna has represented champion diversity, because she was the only champion that Riot let be viable at a useful and core midlane niche.

That's because Lulu was clearly OP. Yet Riot has let Orianna skate by for a long, long time.

You keep dodging the question of what utility mages this is going to let shine.

Nor was I asked it.


You are being obstinate, because the question was implied in all of the replies. Maybe you just don't like utility mages in the midlane.

I just don't like when "utility mages" are strong in a meta and the only one that gets picked is Orianna. At that point, saying utility mages are strong is a misnomer, it's just Orianna. As an aside, I do think that Orianna is one of the better balanced champions in the game.

That is because riot don't want utility focused mages to be mid laners.Lulu is the only they left(soraka,janna got nerfed very fast after starting to see play in mid).Orianna isn't the only one right now but the only other one is zilean.

Lol forgot lux existed.Guess she is good but not top tier.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
August 14 2014 00:10 GMT
#235
On August 14 2014 08:25 Ketara wrote:
New Veigar skin.

Best skin ever.


I think my favorite part of the new Veigar skin is his recall animation is the Konami code.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 14 2014 00:24 GMT
#236
On August 14 2014 08:40 miicah wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/upcoming-pando-media-booster-removal

Why would Riot bother developing their own P2P solution when Bittorrent works just fine?




pride basically.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 14 2014 00:32 GMT
#237
On August 14 2014 08:49 FinestHour wrote:
is ranked disabled right now


No. After waiting in lobby for like 3 minutes, everyone got in.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
August 14 2014 00:42 GMT
#238
On August 14 2014 08:40 miicah wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/upcoming-pando-media-booster-removal

Why would Riot bother developing their own P2P solution when Bittorrent works just fine?

Can they add Bittorrent in a way where all it can do is get patches and not put in the entire program, thus avoiding attracting anti-piracy hatred?
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 01:15:40
August 14 2014 01:10 GMT
#239
gnar gonna be op as hell >_> mega gnar has wayyyyy too many stats. and he only needs two tank items and then go full offense and still be really tanky. he has a dash/creep jump ability that will make him really stupid strong to run away/gank, is manaless and on top of that, he has range so he'll wreck a lot of tops.
BW -> League -> CSGO
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 01:12:01
August 14 2014 01:11 GMT
#240
and he wrecked top figures
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
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