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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35144 Posts
August 14 2014 05:23 GMT
#261
On August 14 2014 14:12 Amui wrote:
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10k IP, who do I buy?

The clear answer is Gnar. Adorable as all hell and once you get him down, freelo for at least 2 patches.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 14 2014 05:24 GMT
#262
Velkoz is pretty fun to play, tons of damage
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
August 14 2014 05:38 GMT
#263
I'm inclined to agree Gnar's free stats are bonkers. Not sure how I feel about his mega form being automatic- seems like more of a hindrance than a help, but that's probably intentional?

Probably going to shove out most bruisers without sustain or range out of top lane though. If there were any left.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
August 14 2014 05:45 GMT
#264
mf, fizz, and nami are in pretty good spots right now. all are strong and only nami is any danger of being nerfed.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35144 Posts
August 14 2014 05:47 GMT
#265
On August 14 2014 14:38 zer0das wrote:
I'm inclined to agree Gnar's free stats are bonkers. Not sure how I feel about his mega form being automatic- seems like more of a hindrance than a help, but that's probably intentional?

Probably going to shove out most bruisers without sustain or range out of top lane though. If there were any left.

Considering Mega Gnar is comparable to Nautilus with damage, yes, it is supposed to be a hindrance.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
August 14 2014 06:08 GMT
#266
Thats pretty much the idea, Gnar can get a ton of shit on both forms because he can't really control which one he's in. Its not like Jayce or nid.

whether or not this works as planned has yet to be seen
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 14 2014 06:11 GMT
#267
Every second game of mine in solo queue, someone picks Zed. Damn that fix actually buffed him pretty much.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 14 2014 06:34 GMT
#268
On August 14 2014 15:11 739 wrote:
Every second game of mine in solo queue, someone picks Zed. Damn that fix actually buffed him pretty much.

People call it a buff, I call it a QoL change. Ulting should place you behind your target considering its your main "assassin" play and the creep blocking is just annoying in general(God bless Fizz). Good change nonetheless.
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JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 14 2014 07:33 GMT
#269
On August 14 2014 15:11 739 wrote:
Every second game of mine in solo queue, someone picks Zed. Damn that fix actually buffed him pretty much.

My Lissandra is happy.

Also @ 10k IP:
Brand and Vel'Koz without contest (save up a bit). Both fun, both different play styles and you get a few hipster points.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 14 2014 07:40 GMT
#270
Brand is such a hit or miss champ unfortunately. Land full combo or get rekt.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
August 14 2014 08:06 GMT
#271
@10kip Amui

Aatrox: boring
Brand: kinda fun but actually retardedly unreliable. I don't recommend.
Braum: fun but pretty passive after they nerfed his damage
Draven: I think you would know if you wanted to play Draven at this point.
Fiora: hard to play and actually pretty one note and uninteresting
Fizz: Fun and cool, recommended
Galio: absolutely no, boring and weak
Gnar: No idea
Jinx: eh ok
Kat: I don't like Kat.
Khazix: not a bad buy, flexible and pretty fun
Lucian: if you play ADC yeah he is one of the most fun ADC IMO
Malz: sucks shit
MF: boooring
Nami: pretty cool, not as much a fan in soloQ
Quinn: alright, I wouldn't buy over Lucian, he's cooler and fills many of same niches.
Rammus: boring, ram people thats it
Rengar: boring, mash all the keys
Shaco: fucking hard to play, pretty fun though
Thresh: You should probably own him if you ever play support
Twitch: booooring
Varus: boring since they nerfed BT and caster sniper builds
Velkoz: Immobile but pretty interesting and feels strong to me, highly recommend over Brand.
Viktor: Fun Fun fun once you master the laser, I might wait for buff /rework
Voli: boring but pretty strong
Zyra: dunno really

I recommend Fizz, Gnar, Lucian, Thresh, Velkoz, Viktor personally.
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4116 Posts
August 14 2014 08:23 GMT
#272
Can someone explain to me what made Nami strong lately, I main support and trying to be up to date, but somehow I cannot understand what is different with Nami in comparison to several patches before? Still if you hit your bubbles you own and if your dont things usually go bad, still if your adc is good Nami enhances it pretty good and if the adc is bad Nami can hardly make plays on her own like Thresh/Leona/Lulu/Annie etc
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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
August 14 2014 08:31 GMT
#273
On August 14 2014 17:23 M2 wrote:
Can someone explain to me what made Nami strong lately, I main support and trying to be up to date, but somehow I cannot understand what is different with Nami in comparison to several patches before? Still if you hit your bubbles you own and if your dont things usually go bad, still if your adc is good Nami enhances it pretty good and if the adc is bad Nami can hardly make plays on her own like Thresh/Leona/Lulu/Annie etc


Metagame shifts and nerfs to other supports from early this year made Nami become a top support again, due to her attack steroid, sustain + damage, the skill shot CC and a nice disengage for team fights. She didn't really change from when she was last popular (basically end of Worlds last year), its just people forgot about her because she's a boom/bust support; land bubble, get kills. Miss bubble, get no kills.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 14 2014 08:36 GMT
#274
On August 14 2014 16:40 Osmoses wrote:
Brand is such a hit or miss champ unfortunately. Land full combo or get rekt.

It's weird because between the pass-through Q and the short range on E it's so hard to land your stuff and get to one-shot someone (you probably won't, depending on ult bounces), but his long-ish cooldowns make it so you can't really poke or just kite the way Orianna/Ziggs/Syndra can.

That means the window in which he can send one rotation out, try to kite/stall and get another one off or at least get back his stun so he can keep spacing and getting his passive going, is rather short (midgame, and influenced by how fed/farmed the others are, before that there aren't relly fights and you go oom fast, past that either you don't do enough damage anymore or you get 3-shotted so there's no kiting to do once you get in E range), but damn if it isn't fun.
I've been having to play against several Ziggs on my smurf though, and even though I can tell they're bad (missing most of their Qs or even ults, taking free hits despite the range advantage and low cost Q to laugh if I try to zone, etc.) the match-up is so infuriating because he just doesn't get punished for mindlessly pushing and spamming since his mana bar doesn't deplete even pre-6 and he can't hide behind his minions using the wave advantage. ><
At least during early skirmishes if you manage to catch out the fucker he's dead.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 14 2014 08:50 GMT
#275
Brand definitely needs a little buff (E range is a pretty good start. I know it has been nerfed, but 625 is damn short - go for 650 pls Riot), but I just find him really fun to play. I really like the interaction with his abilities and passive. I also kinda like the reliance on landing stuns, feels really rewarding. I know fun is subjective, but he's definitely up there for me. Vel'Koz is the same. Great interaction with his abilities and passive, plus the reliance on skill shots makes him really rewarding when you are smashing it. I also like their beastly team fighting ults. I know Brand has a degree of RNG, but by god it's powerful if it comes off just right. Of course if you want to play 'strong' or 'meta' champs, you wouldn't be playing them, but that's your prerogative.

You should note Amui that if you decide to pick up Fizz and start playing him regularly, you will cop a lot of hate from other players. He's definitely one of the most hated champs
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 14 2014 09:04 GMT
#276
Well Brand was initially a champion designed around skillshots to be "rewarding" and more difficult than most at the time, with his passive use to incite combos, and low utility so he could be packed on damage.

However outside of his ult (and even then at level 6 2 hits isn't that great in terms of base damage, it's mostly the ratio and he can't do that to more than 2 people) his damage isn't that great, and his utility (the stun) is conditional while other champions release since have similar damage but more (and unconditional) utility.
He's a burst mage without 1k range so he falls off later in the game, especially when his ult doesn't damage tanks and bruisers that much anymore, and he's stronger against 2-3 people than 5 because of his ult anyway. However, considering his kit for him to have enough damage to make up for this he'd have to be broken since the bar for damage has gone higher and higher. I like his kit and the combo idea, it's just that the power creep has made it so others get similar power to him without the unreliability/added difficulty of chaining abilities, or they're more mobile, etc. and it'd prob be hard to adjust him because there aren't that many levers on his kit, it's not practical to adjust.

His passive does have a lot of power (especially at early levels because the base damage on each spell isn't that low, and late in the game when he has void staff and people won't get 100-0'd so it has time to tick, even though he can't really apply it via poke either), it's just that it's not very obvious at first (and building stuff like Rylai to synergise with it can be awkward since these items aren't great for burst).
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 09:26:47
August 14 2014 09:26 GMT
#277
Okay bought fizz, probably not gonna play him any time soon, but that's one champ closer to owning them all. I'm pretty fine with my champ pool for this season TBH, around 15-20 different picks for top/mid/jungle/support(I don't play ADC).

I figure I can get all the champs in a couple more years of playing. Roughly 140kIP remaining.
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 14 2014 09:27 GMT
#278
I have every single champion bought while playing this game 3 years and having 1 year break for DotA2 :\ does this make me a goddamn nerd?
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35144 Posts
August 14 2014 09:29 GMT
#279
On August 14 2014 18:27 739 wrote:
I have every single champion bought while playing this game 3 years and having 1 year break for DotA2 :\ does this make me a goddamn nerd?

Not really. I'm pretty close too and I don't play this game nearly as much as I could considering it's the main game I've played since the Talon patch.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 14 2014 09:32 GMT
#280
How about having 101 skins bought?
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