• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:45
CET 06:45
KST 14:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival12TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!9BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams7Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest3Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou22
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" The New Patch Killed Mech! Could we add "Avoid Matchup" Feature for rankgame Smart servos says it affects liberators as well Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou
Tourneys
2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival BSL Season 21 BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking!
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION ASL final tickets help [ASL20] Semifinal A
Strategy
PvZ map balance Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Sabrina was soooo lame on S…
Peanutsc
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1375 users

[Patch 4.14] Gnar General Discussion - Page 14

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 82 Next
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
August 14 2014 05:23 GMT
#261
On August 14 2014 14:12 Amui wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

10k IP, who do I buy?

The clear answer is Gnar. Adorable as all hell and once you get him down, freelo for at least 2 patches.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 14 2014 05:24 GMT
#262
Velkoz is pretty fun to play, tons of damage
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
August 14 2014 05:38 GMT
#263
I'm inclined to agree Gnar's free stats are bonkers. Not sure how I feel about his mega form being automatic- seems like more of a hindrance than a help, but that's probably intentional?

Probably going to shove out most bruisers without sustain or range out of top lane though. If there were any left.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
August 14 2014 05:45 GMT
#264
mf, fizz, and nami are in pretty good spots right now. all are strong and only nami is any danger of being nerfed.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
August 14 2014 05:47 GMT
#265
On August 14 2014 14:38 zer0das wrote:
I'm inclined to agree Gnar's free stats are bonkers. Not sure how I feel about his mega form being automatic- seems like more of a hindrance than a help, but that's probably intentional?

Probably going to shove out most bruisers without sustain or range out of top lane though. If there were any left.

Considering Mega Gnar is comparable to Nautilus with damage, yes, it is supposed to be a hindrance.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
August 14 2014 06:08 GMT
#266
Thats pretty much the idea, Gnar can get a ton of shit on both forms because he can't really control which one he's in. Its not like Jayce or nid.

whether or not this works as planned has yet to be seen
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 14 2014 06:11 GMT
#267
Every second game of mine in solo queue, someone picks Zed. Damn that fix actually buffed him pretty much.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 14 2014 06:34 GMT
#268
On August 14 2014 15:11 739 wrote:
Every second game of mine in solo queue, someone picks Zed. Damn that fix actually buffed him pretty much.

People call it a buff, I call it a QoL change. Ulting should place you behind your target considering its your main "assassin" play and the creep blocking is just annoying in general(God bless Fizz). Good change nonetheless.
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 14 2014 07:33 GMT
#269
On August 14 2014 15:11 739 wrote:
Every second game of mine in solo queue, someone picks Zed. Damn that fix actually buffed him pretty much.

My Lissandra is happy.

Also @ 10k IP:
Brand and Vel'Koz without contest (save up a bit). Both fun, both different play styles and you get a few hipster points.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 14 2014 07:40 GMT
#270
Brand is such a hit or miss champ unfortunately. Land full combo or get rekt.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
August 14 2014 08:06 GMT
#271
@10kip Amui

Aatrox: boring
Brand: kinda fun but actually retardedly unreliable. I don't recommend.
Braum: fun but pretty passive after they nerfed his damage
Draven: I think you would know if you wanted to play Draven at this point.
Fiora: hard to play and actually pretty one note and uninteresting
Fizz: Fun and cool, recommended
Galio: absolutely no, boring and weak
Gnar: No idea
Jinx: eh ok
Kat: I don't like Kat.
Khazix: not a bad buy, flexible and pretty fun
Lucian: if you play ADC yeah he is one of the most fun ADC IMO
Malz: sucks shit
MF: boooring
Nami: pretty cool, not as much a fan in soloQ
Quinn: alright, I wouldn't buy over Lucian, he's cooler and fills many of same niches.
Rammus: boring, ram people thats it
Rengar: boring, mash all the keys
Shaco: fucking hard to play, pretty fun though
Thresh: You should probably own him if you ever play support
Twitch: booooring
Varus: boring since they nerfed BT and caster sniper builds
Velkoz: Immobile but pretty interesting and feels strong to me, highly recommend over Brand.
Viktor: Fun Fun fun once you master the laser, I might wait for buff /rework
Voli: boring but pretty strong
Zyra: dunno really

I recommend Fizz, Gnar, Lucian, Thresh, Velkoz, Viktor personally.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4129 Posts
August 14 2014 08:23 GMT
#272
Can someone explain to me what made Nami strong lately, I main support and trying to be up to date, but somehow I cannot understand what is different with Nami in comparison to several patches before? Still if you hit your bubbles you own and if your dont things usually go bad, still if your adc is good Nami enhances it pretty good and if the adc is bad Nami can hardly make plays on her own like Thresh/Leona/Lulu/Annie etc
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
August 14 2014 08:31 GMT
#273
On August 14 2014 17:23 M2 wrote:
Can someone explain to me what made Nami strong lately, I main support and trying to be up to date, but somehow I cannot understand what is different with Nami in comparison to several patches before? Still if you hit your bubbles you own and if your dont things usually go bad, still if your adc is good Nami enhances it pretty good and if the adc is bad Nami can hardly make plays on her own like Thresh/Leona/Lulu/Annie etc


Metagame shifts and nerfs to other supports from early this year made Nami become a top support again, due to her attack steroid, sustain + damage, the skill shot CC and a nice disengage for team fights. She didn't really change from when she was last popular (basically end of Worlds last year), its just people forgot about her because she's a boom/bust support; land bubble, get kills. Miss bubble, get no kills.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 14 2014 08:36 GMT
#274
On August 14 2014 16:40 Osmoses wrote:
Brand is such a hit or miss champ unfortunately. Land full combo or get rekt.

It's weird because between the pass-through Q and the short range on E it's so hard to land your stuff and get to one-shot someone (you probably won't, depending on ult bounces), but his long-ish cooldowns make it so you can't really poke or just kite the way Orianna/Ziggs/Syndra can.

That means the window in which he can send one rotation out, try to kite/stall and get another one off or at least get back his stun so he can keep spacing and getting his passive going, is rather short (midgame, and influenced by how fed/farmed the others are, before that there aren't relly fights and you go oom fast, past that either you don't do enough damage anymore or you get 3-shotted so there's no kiting to do once you get in E range), but damn if it isn't fun.
I've been having to play against several Ziggs on my smurf though, and even though I can tell they're bad (missing most of their Qs or even ults, taking free hits despite the range advantage and low cost Q to laugh if I try to zone, etc.) the match-up is so infuriating because he just doesn't get punished for mindlessly pushing and spamming since his mana bar doesn't deplete even pre-6 and he can't hide behind his minions using the wave advantage. ><
At least during early skirmishes if you manage to catch out the fucker he's dead.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 14 2014 08:50 GMT
#275
Brand definitely needs a little buff (E range is a pretty good start. I know it has been nerfed, but 625 is damn short - go for 650 pls Riot), but I just find him really fun to play. I really like the interaction with his abilities and passive. I also kinda like the reliance on landing stuns, feels really rewarding. I know fun is subjective, but he's definitely up there for me. Vel'Koz is the same. Great interaction with his abilities and passive, plus the reliance on skill shots makes him really rewarding when you are smashing it. I also like their beastly team fighting ults. I know Brand has a degree of RNG, but by god it's powerful if it comes off just right. Of course if you want to play 'strong' or 'meta' champs, you wouldn't be playing them, but that's your prerogative.

You should note Amui that if you decide to pick up Fizz and start playing him regularly, you will cop a lot of hate from other players. He's definitely one of the most hated champs
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 14 2014 09:04 GMT
#276
Well Brand was initially a champion designed around skillshots to be "rewarding" and more difficult than most at the time, with his passive use to incite combos, and low utility so he could be packed on damage.

However outside of his ult (and even then at level 6 2 hits isn't that great in terms of base damage, it's mostly the ratio and he can't do that to more than 2 people) his damage isn't that great, and his utility (the stun) is conditional while other champions release since have similar damage but more (and unconditional) utility.
He's a burst mage without 1k range so he falls off later in the game, especially when his ult doesn't damage tanks and bruisers that much anymore, and he's stronger against 2-3 people than 5 because of his ult anyway. However, considering his kit for him to have enough damage to make up for this he'd have to be broken since the bar for damage has gone higher and higher. I like his kit and the combo idea, it's just that the power creep has made it so others get similar power to him without the unreliability/added difficulty of chaining abilities, or they're more mobile, etc. and it'd prob be hard to adjust him because there aren't that many levers on his kit, it's not practical to adjust.

His passive does have a lot of power (especially at early levels because the base damage on each spell isn't that low, and late in the game when he has void staff and people won't get 100-0'd so it has time to tick, even though he can't really apply it via poke either), it's just that it's not very obvious at first (and building stuff like Rylai to synergise with it can be awkward since these items aren't great for burst).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 09:26:47
August 14 2014 09:26 GMT
#277
Okay bought fizz, probably not gonna play him any time soon, but that's one champ closer to owning them all. I'm pretty fine with my champ pool for this season TBH, around 15-20 different picks for top/mid/jungle/support(I don't play ADC).

I figure I can get all the champs in a couple more years of playing. Roughly 140kIP remaining.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 14 2014 09:27 GMT
#278
I have every single champion bought while playing this game 3 years and having 1 year break for DotA2 :\ does this make me a goddamn nerd?
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
August 14 2014 09:29 GMT
#279
On August 14 2014 18:27 739 wrote:
I have every single champion bought while playing this game 3 years and having 1 year break for DotA2 :\ does this make me a goddamn nerd?

Not really. I'm pretty close too and I don't play this game nearly as much as I could considering it's the main game I've played since the Talon patch.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 14 2014 09:32 GMT
#280
How about having 101 skins bought?
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 82 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 21
01:00
Open Quali #1
LiquipediaDiscussion
The PiG Daily
22:10
Best Games of SC
Rogue vs herO
MaxPax vs Clem
MaxPax vs Lambo
Clem vs herO
Reynor vs Classic
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Bale 76
ZZZero.O 50
Icarus 13
Dota 2
monkeys_forever913
XaKoH 837
PGG 525
NeuroSwarm91
League of Legends
JimRising 776
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0635
Other Games
summit1g7334
WinterStarcraft458
Tasteless317
Hui .127
Maynarde103
Mew2King65
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick771
BasetradeTV43
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH117
• practicex 30
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1234
• Lourlo899
• Stunt742
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 15m
Streamerzone vs Shopify Rebellion
Streamerzone vs Team Vitality
Shopify Rebellion vs Team Vitality
WardiTV Invitational
6h 15m
CrankTV Team League
7h 15m
BASILISK vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
BSL 21
19h 15m
Replay Cast
1d 4h
BASILISK vs TBD
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
OSC
1d 6h
CrankTV Team League
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
The PondCast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
4 days
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
BSL 21
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
5 days
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.