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[Patch 4.14] Gnar General Discussion - Page 16

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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
August 14 2014 12:25 GMT
#301
On August 14 2014 18:27 739 wrote:
I have every single champion bought while playing this game 3 years and having 1 year break for DotA2 :\ does this make me a goddamn nerd?


Are you really asking this question on teamliquid?
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
August 14 2014 12:44 GMT
#302
Fuck that site, I compared myself with some of the Jannas and lol, this ain't fair. How am I losing out to someone who has 1/3 as many games, 10% worse win rate and a worse kda. I should check back how much my lolskill goes up if I jump a division.

Also, a plat 5 guy is in the top 10, having 16% worse winrate (which almost puts him at 50%), and his saving grace is the 0.8 deaths per game. I mean, that's impressive in 40+ games, but man, if in my next 10 J games I go über-pussy mode, probably losing most of the games, but not dying at all I would probably get a much higher lolskill points. Fuck this, I'm salty.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 12:50:42
August 14 2014 12:50 GMT
#303
Yea I was wondering a while back when someone linked it about how they calculate because while it did seem random there was a lot of rankings that I would agree with though.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 14 2014 12:54 GMT
#304
My Lulu has an awful score because I spam support games with her, having low farm and a way less favourable kda (I die more, and even if I get a bunch of assists I have no kills).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 14 2014 12:55 GMT
#305
The site has the small issue of apparently only counting players who's summoner name has been previously searched for.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
August 14 2014 12:59 GMT
#306
This says i'm currently #427 Karma in the world while playing her only as support. Better than expected.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
August 14 2014 15:34 GMT
#307
On August 14 2014 21:44 Volband wrote:
Fuck that site, I compared myself with some of the Jannas and lol, this ain't fair. How am I losing out to someone who has 1/3 as many games, 10% worse win rate and a worse kda. I should check back how much my lolskill goes up if I jump a division.

Also, a plat 5 guy is in the top 10, having 16% worse winrate (which almost puts him at 50%), and his saving grace is the 0.8 deaths per game. I mean, that's impressive in 40+ games, but man, if in my next 10 J games I go über-pussy mode, probably losing most of the games, but not dying at all I would probably get a much higher lolskill points. Fuck this, I'm salty.

Here is how you tell if you're the best Janna main in the game.

1) get a list of all the Janna's

2) rank them by MMR

lol skill and every other site that tries to give you a rating that isn't just your MMR is dumb.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
August 14 2014 15:44 GMT
#308
On August 15 2014 00:34 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2014 21:44 Volband wrote:
Fuck that site, I compared myself with some of the Jannas and lol, this ain't fair. How am I losing out to someone who has 1/3 as many games, 10% worse win rate and a worse kda. I should check back how much my lolskill goes up if I jump a division.

Also, a plat 5 guy is in the top 10, having 16% worse winrate (which almost puts him at 50%), and his saving grace is the 0.8 deaths per game. I mean, that's impressive in 40+ games, but man, if in my next 10 J games I go über-pussy mode, probably losing most of the games, but not dying at all I would probably get a much higher lolskill points. Fuck this, I'm salty.

Here is how you tell if you're the best Janna main in the game.

1) get a list of all the Janna's

2) rank them by MMR

lol skill and every other site that tries to give you a rating that isn't just your MMR is dumb.

Wouldn't that just list every challanger player who ever played at least 1 game with Janna?
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
August 14 2014 15:54 GMT
#309
On August 15 2014 00:44 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 00:34 Goumindong wrote:
On August 14 2014 21:44 Volband wrote:
Fuck that site, I compared myself with some of the Jannas and lol, this ain't fair. How am I losing out to someone who has 1/3 as many games, 10% worse win rate and a worse kda. I should check back how much my lolskill goes up if I jump a division.

Also, a plat 5 guy is in the top 10, having 16% worse winrate (which almost puts him at 50%), and his saving grace is the 0.8 deaths per game. I mean, that's impressive in 40+ games, but man, if in my next 10 J games I go über-pussy mode, probably losing most of the games, but not dying at all I would probably get a much higher lolskill points. Fuck this, I'm salty.

Here is how you tell if you're the best Janna main in the game.

1) get a list of all the Janna's

2) rank them by MMR

lol skill and every other site that tries to give you a rating that isn't just your MMR is dumb.

Wouldn't that just list every challanger player who ever played at least 1 game with Janna?



Maybe there's a way to look only at the most played champion, I don't know (no irony, I really don't).
Other than that, looking only at MMR makes little sense for cross-server comparisons imo. But then again, the site doesn't even look at Korea, so...

If you really want to know who's the best in the world at a champion, your best bet is still to go through the challenger/high diamond kr ladder (using op.gg for example) and find the one trick pony using the champ you're looking for. There is always one. That guy is most likely top 10 world on that champ.
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
August 14 2014 16:31 GMT
#310
Played Gnar vs Jax owned him pretty hard

Played Gnar vs Vayne and got shat on
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
August 14 2014 16:35 GMT
#311
So have you played thr new kassa? The ridiculous long time it takes to reset the mana cost on R basically means that you cant really use it to roam and in TF that you basically only have 4 riftwalks (75, 150, 300, 600, at 1200 your are prolly oom).

Seriously, I think they finally killed him. I dont see in what team comp you would ever want to play a melee AP assassin that needs 4items+ to be relevant and that cant really chase/clean up because his mobility is severly limited. Like, what are you supposed to do in a tf? You stand there, waiting for the initiation, then you RQWE one damage dealer, pop Zhonyas when you get focussed and hope that somehow you will win the tf.

Sounds like fizz, only with SO MUCH LESS BURST. fuck this, I'll get fizz asap
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 14 2014 16:39 GMT
#312
Kass still has decent mobility considering he'll build Lichbane. He's a bit slow for a melee but the %MS will help, so nothing stops you from walking back till you get your cooldowns, instead of rifting out.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
August 14 2014 16:52 GMT
#313
On August 15 2014 01:39 Alaric wrote:
Kass still has decent mobility considering he'll build Lichbane. He's a bit slow for a melee but the %MS will help, so nothing stops you from walking back till you get your cooldowns, instead of rifting out.


Ehm, when exactly are you supposed to go lichbane lol? The reason it works on fizz as first item is cause he doesnt need mana.

Then again, maybe the ROA first build sucks. Maybe maxing W and going lichbane first is the way to go, I dont know. But if you go RoA your early game sucks cause you dont have dmg, and after that + boots you prolly want to get zhonyas (as you prolly would on fizz).

Again, imho he needs to many items to be relevant
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4132 Posts
August 14 2014 17:08 GMT
#314
Since this is Gnar patch, any thoughts on Gnar? It doesnt look op to me, in yordle form he can't do much, mostly farm and run away abilities, however, when he is big he does shit, but I am not sure it does more than the other tanks/bruisers, meaning that you can be easily caught off-guard while being small, and being big does not compensate for that. Fun to play though no question about this and viable pick for soloQ
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35164 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 17:10:11
August 14 2014 17:09 GMT
#315
On August 15 2014 02:08 M2 wrote:
Since this is Gnar patch, any thoughts on Gnar? It doesnt look op to me, in yordle form he can't do much, mostly farm and run away abilities, however, when he is big he does shit, but I am not sure it does more than the other tanks/bruisers, meaning that you can be easily caught off-guard while being small, and being big does not compensate for that. Fun to play though no question about this and viable pick for soloQ

Adorable. At least a moderate skill floor that most people haven't adjusted to. I think he's going to be really strong in competent hands.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 17:26:15
August 14 2014 17:25 GMT
#316
i dont see him being a competitive lcs pick though he just seems too funky, so much goes in to building team comps i dont even know what you would bring to assist him? i could imagine him being a split push god though.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 14 2014 17:39 GMT
#317
just after trying him and facing him a couple times i think the boomerang is too strong for such a low cooldown manaless move, he is really hard to gank with his jump and speed boosts. split pushing doesn't feel that good though because your rage builds up so fast pushing a wave its often wasted and you feel vulnerable after. super fun though. feels so good when you bounce onto your lane opponent and stun them right as you go mega! i still have no idea what to build on him though.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
August 14 2014 17:41 GMT
#318
On August 15 2014 02:39 ComaDose wrote:
just after trying him and facing him a couple times i think the boomerang is too strong for such a low cooldown manaless move, he is really hard to gank with his jump and speed boosts. split pushing doesn't feel that good though because your rage builds up so fast pushing a wave its often wasted and you feel vulnerable after. super fun though. feels so good when you bounce onto your lane opponent and stun them right as you go mega! i still have no idea what to build on him though.


super low cd ranged slow (that also wave clears) and tons of movement speed and he isnt a split push champ?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21989 Posts
August 14 2014 17:46 GMT
#319
Botrk into tank. Works on anyone I guess so why not Gnar.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 14 2014 17:47 GMT
#320
On August 15 2014 02:41 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 02:39 ComaDose wrote:
just after trying him and facing him a couple times i think the boomerang is too strong for such a low cooldown manaless move, he is really hard to gank with his jump and speed boosts. split pushing doesn't feel that good though because your rage builds up so fast pushing a wave its often wasted and you feel vulnerable after. super fun though. feels so good when you bounce onto your lane opponent and stun them right as you go mega! i still have no idea what to build on him though.


super low cd ranged slow (that also wave clears) and tons of movement speed and he isnt a split push champ?

I mean im bad and i tried it twice but it just felt like when anyone showed up to the lane you were pushing your mega was already wasted on the last wave and you couldn't really stick around on their side of the map. of course that's not required to split push and he could just get away with great escapes and come back later. the uncontrollable form changing is a pretty interesting and difficult to manage mechanic in general.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
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