EPT[Patch 4.13] Sona Update General Discussion - Page 61
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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Uldridge
Belgium4936 Posts
On August 10 2014 22:40 nafta wrote: Its too risky.If you lose control of the wave and start getting shoved into tower the enemy mid won't let you farm the jungle and if you do you'll just lose the lane creeps.You are still going to need a mana item anyway so seems kind of a waste to me. Losing control of a wave with AP Kog'maw or Orianna or Ziggs? | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On August 10 2014 17:28 Kinie wrote: I don't think the issue is that we're pissed at the Tree or the Cow for being viable in top lane, it's that we're disappointed in that possible counterpicks were nerfed in prior patches or don't fit the expected role/meta anymore. Like I honestly want to see what happens if a couple nerfs were reverted to any of the prior FotM top laners in this season, if they'd be good options due to just doing more early game damage and forcing the Cow or Tree out of lane. Like what're they gonna do pre-6 when Renekton's slicing through the minions and creeps and just chunking them whenever they go to last hit, or Riven comboing them between level 2-6 and making them blow their mana pool (or even teleport) to remain in lane against her. Heck, Shyvana can probably come back now, get BotRK first against them and just watch them burn alive to her. Hell, Diana can probably come back now in the AP top lane meta, like imagine her with RoA + Lich Bane in any team fight in the level 8-13 range, she'd wreck all these squishy ADCs with her dive. I can imagine it now: RoA > Lich Bane > Zhonyas > Randuins > BV with CDR or M.Pen boots. And if the mid laner's Yasuo or Ori? Free knockup or sweet ball delivery system. I don't think zed does well against ori, if anything yasuo should be a better matchup in this than zed | ||
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Gahlo
United States35160 Posts
On August 10 2014 23:57 Nos- wrote: I don't think zed does well against ori, if anything yasuo should be a better matchup in this than zed Doesn't help that Zed's ult gets double shield-blocked. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On August 11 2014 00:29 Numy wrote: Zed vs ori used to be a skill matchup in season 3 they're both skill match ups but ori has slimmer margin for error against yasuo imo | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On August 10 2014 23:57 Uldridge wrote: Losing control of a wave with AP Kog'maw or Orianna or Ziggs? Unless your enemy has no waveclear it's pretty easy to happen yes.Keep in mind this is a 2k cost item that gives you no mana regen and you have to get it first.A lot of things need to happen to make it a safe buy. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Or she can go balls to the walls offensive. Puns so intended. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35160 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On August 11 2014 01:17 Gahlo wrote: Somebody explain how to mid to me like I'm 5. Shove waves hard safely, then when you finally outshove your opponent, roam like a boss. TLDR: Kill creeps faster than other guy kills creeps from safety of tower better than other guy. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On August 11 2014 01:25 Fusilero wrote: Or just pick zed/TF into everything, it'll go fine I promise. step 1: be faker | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On August 11 2014 01:25 Fusilero wrote: Or just pick zed/TF into everything, it'll go fine I promise. everytime i pick tf i feed  | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Laning against Mao, Graga, Nid, etc is ridiculous. All my favorite champions just get rolled. lol. these three so safe, scale well, have ridiculous sustain, and bully the crap out of everyone else. Its dumb. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 11 2014 01:17 Gahlo wrote: Somebody explain how to mid to me like I'm 5. How to instantly be better at mid lane: Place a ward in the middle of your lane. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
You need to avoid fighting 100%, particularly after 6. Hide somewhere and let him shove if you think you can't out trade him or you will get all-in'ed and die. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2396 Posts
On August 10 2014 17:28 Kinie wrote: Hell, Diana can probably come back now in the AP top lane meta, like imagine her with RoA + Lich Bane in any team fight in the level 8-13 range, she'd wreck all these squishy ADCs with her dive. I can imagine it now: RoA > Lich Bane > Zhonyas > Randuins > BV with CDR or M.Pen boots. And if the mid laner's Yasuo or Ori? Free knockup or sweet ball delivery system. RoA Diana? She scales infinitely better off resistances than health and you REALLY want Zhonyas to start teamfighting. | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
<3 In that load screen, got swapped it. | ||
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