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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 11 2014 08:28 nafta wrote: Zoomhack is literally useless.Why would you use it? It doesn't matter if you think it's useless. Assuming this is true, then someone chose to use it because HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS. And it is a third-party software. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
That tiny difference in view is 5% difference in performance on average, so a unlocked zoom would probably be 10% or more performance boost. When i played age of empires 2 cometitively, we all used the highest resolution because it gave the biggest vision. My monitor wasnt even build for that resolution and it looked really bad. SC2 and dota2/LoL lock the vision at the same for everyone. They dont do that to torture you, they do this to create equal playing fields. Dont underestimate vision. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On August 11 2014 09:48 LaNague wrote: Didnt some people parse all games played and discover a 5% difference in winrate on isometric maps that go from top to bottom? That tiny difference in view is 5% difference in performance on average, so a unlocked zoom would probably be 10% or more performance boost. And a dumb hack is still a hack. The grand general we used Sufficiency's very large data set to see that before riot changed their MMR handicap for purple side on SR blue won about 55% of the time. On ARAM as well, blue also won about 55% of the time. So about 10% win differential from just the viewing angle making the vision more effective. Something like that vision hack would be huge. (though an aside, letting purple side zoom out more may be a way to counteract the blue side vision advantage) | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
But i guess the technology just isnt there yet, maybe after replays. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On August 11 2014 04:19 Alaric wrote: W level 1, dunno level 2, a point in each at 3, R > W > Q > E, Triforce + Ionan boots into full tank (FH first is nice if you can do it). Abuse how ridiculously strong your ult makes you for the duration during early fights. Use W+auto for harass, or denying last hits (like on siege minions) with the knock-back, rush sheen to abuse the free aa without retaliation, abuse your very strong gank assist too if the jungler comes. Impact actually took E at level 1 during NLB finals. He went R>W>Q>E both games. The first solo top ali game he went Triforce into tank. The second one he went tanky AP with RoA into abyssal | ||
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Gahlo
United States35091 Posts
On August 11 2014 08:40 nafta wrote: It also makes it much harder to target stuff in lane.I'm not saying it is fine to cheat but this thing really doesn't do much.You can see enough of the screen just by setting the resolution to the maximum.You would have to play 100% of the time with this and if you get to a point you can't use it you would just get crushed. As a jungler, I doubt he really cares. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Game 1: opposing laners were retarded. Press R and win. Game 2: we were losing really hard due to the other team's smurf. But someone else from the other team DC'ed, so I won. Game 3: my jungler went AFK, but every lane was winning so hard that the other team did not even notice the AFK. Jungler went back after 15 minutes and won. User was warned for this post | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 11 2014 11:35 FinestHour wrote: win some lose some True, but sometimes it certainly feels like winning and losing is outside of my control (esp. when I am at the MMR bracket I belong to). Everything is up to match making - up to random chance. I am powerless to change it. Just a minor rant. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On August 11 2014 02:47 Ethelis wrote: RoA Diana? She scales infinitely better off resistances than health and you REALLY want Zhonyas to start teamfighting. To follow up, Diana is absolutely shit top. Loses to bruisers and sustain AP bruisers are even worse. RoA is pretty crummy with her. No reason not to go lichbane => Zhonyas as soon as you can. Actually in most cases you want zhonyas before lichbane if your job is initiating instead of assassin. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2396 Posts
Most of my losses after that even while tilting weren't really due to "omfg i can't stand laning vs X champ." Except Yasuo, im not sure how to grade that matchup since i improved a lot on it after getting wrecked once and the rest of the Yasuo's i've laned against after that have been garbage. | ||
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On August 11 2014 12:10 Ethelis wrote: I've had pretty good success with Diana top in high plat, something like 9-2 before i went on a massive tilting spree. I didn't feel that laning was unbearable or anything of the sort. Q is so mana lite that resorting to Q farming (with or without a flask) is not bad. Post-6 your gank support is great since Diana chases so well and has enough frontloaded damage to tower dive if needed. Most of my losses after that even while tilting weren't really due to "omfg i can't stand laning vs X champ." Except Yasuo, im not sure how to grade that matchup since i improved a lot on it after getting wrecked once and the rest of the Yasuo's i've laned against after that have been garbage. I'm well aware of Q's ability to farm. But the issue is, who the heck cares about that? Most meta top laners can farm AND sustain well. If you want to fight more aggressively, you need the W against top laners in trades to come out ahead. Without blue, you can't keep those up and your kill threat against top will always be worse than kill threat versus mids. You also give up her roam ability and top coming to gank for you post 6 always means free dragons etc. Winning with Diana top just meant either your opponent was unfamiliar with the matchup or you were just better than your opponent. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2396 Posts
On August 11 2014 12:19 KissBlade wrote: I'm well aware of Q's ability to farm. But the issue is, who the heck cares about that? Most meta top laners can farm AND sustain well. If you want to fight more aggressively, you need the W against top laners in trades to come out ahead. Without blue, you can't keep those up and your kill threat against top will always be worse than kill threat versus mids. You also give up her roam ability and top coming to gank for you post 6 always means free dragons etc. Winning with Diana top just meant either your opponent was unfamiliar with the matchup or you were just better than your opponent. 1 kill+tier 1 top is okay for a drag tbh. You should have a sheen by lvl 6 if you've been farming well even without a kill, odds are you're likely to get a kill. Unless you manage your wave really awfully, there are plenty of chances for a favorable gank (cept vs Renekton, screw his Q in your huge wave). Diana is also okay to make plays at their top side buff, i mean yeah your roaming is limited compared to being mid but let's not just say 'gg, i'm top Diana i can't roam.' | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35091 Posts
On August 11 2014 13:24 IMoperator wrote: Did something happen with Bjergsen being toxic or something? There was a thread on reddit that I saw that mentioned him but it was deleted before I got the chance to check it out. I didn't see it nor watch his stream lately, but people like to call streamers toxic if they verbalize discontent with their teammates on the stream. Even when it's completely valid shit like "This Vayne is so dumb, just ran right into that 1v3." | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On August 11 2014 12:47 Ethelis wrote: 1 kill+tier 1 top is okay for a drag tbh. You should have a sheen by lvl 6 if you've been farming well even without a kill, odds are you're likely to get a kill. Unless you manage your wave really awfully, there are plenty of chances for a favorable gank (cept vs Renekton, screw his Q in your huge wave). Diana is also okay to make plays at their top side buff, i mean yeah your roaming is limited compared to being mid but let's not just say 'gg, i'm top Diana i can't roam.' True. Though another thing to keep in mind is that while Diana is quite good at enabling ganks, she's also quite bad at escaping them, especially compared to say Lulu/Gragas/Maokai (the AP trifecta of toplane) It was an exaggeration to say "Diana is absolute shit top" because I played her top with tele a few times. It's however safer to say, she is probably not likely to return to the meta anytime soon as a top lane. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On August 11 2014 13:28 Gahlo wrote: I didn't see it nor watch his stream lately, but people like to call streamers toxic if they verbalize discontent with their teammates on the stream. Even when it's completely valid shit like "This Vayne is so dumb, just ran right into that 1v3." Or he said "GG", or failed to say GG, or was feeding, or was shitting on some one, or one of the thousands of random things that internet people get all butthurt over. Plus Riot, they encourage the trolls by enforcing the policy most vigorously against ticky-tack BM and not at all against real bad actors. | ||
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padfoota
Taiwan1571 Posts
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
On August 11 2014 13:24 IMoperator wrote: Did something happen with Bjergsen being toxic or something? There was a thread on reddit that I saw that mentioned him but it was deleted before I got the chance to check it out. i wouldn't say toxic. i've watched his stream on the side when doing other stuff and he comes off as "im holier then thou" rather then toxic. I remember one game he went off at the jungler because he felt entitled to blue buff because "he could make it worth it". of course everything would be toned up a notch for entertainment value of the stream, reddit just making a fuss for the sake of a fuss. | ||
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