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On July 11 2014 04:20 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 04:10 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:08 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:04 kongoline wrote:
lol just realized all the meaningless vlad changes riot did recently is because of the new skin, i always thought they are greedy but deep inside hoped maybe im wrong, sad eh. vlad does need some buffs/changes though. He hasn't been relevant since what? season 2? None of the changes will make him relevant though? 4.7 was a bunch of bug fixes, which were reasonably significant. The pool-Zhonya change is also imo more of a fix than anything, since Vlad's pool was (I think) the only skill in the game that locks you out of using Zhonyas. If you guys are suggesting Riot should just not fix anything or that fixes are only done as cash grabs then I really don't know what to say.
Would be cool if they made changes that did help him be relevant though. This stuff has been wrong with vlad for quite some time so dunno timing is pretty strange. Then again Liss/Shen have been bugged for what years? Either takes them really really long to fix champion bugs or they only really do it when they have an incentive
Anyway it's cool for vlad whatever the reasoning behind it.
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On July 11 2014 04:25 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 04:20 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:10 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:08 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:04 kongoline wrote:
lol just realized all the meaningless vlad changes riot did recently is because of the new skin, i always thought they are greedy but deep inside hoped maybe im wrong, sad eh. vlad does need some buffs/changes though. He hasn't been relevant since what? season 2? None of the changes will make him relevant though? 4.7 was a bunch of bug fixes, which were reasonably significant. The pool-Zhonya change is also imo more of a fix than anything, since Vlad's pool was (I think) the only skill in the game that locks you out of using Zhonyas. If you guys are suggesting Riot should just not fix anything or that fixes are only done as cash grabs then I really don't know what to say. Would be cool if they made changes that did help him be relevant though. This stuff has been wrong with vlad for quite some time so dunno timing is pretty strange. Then again Liss/Shen have been bugged for what years? Either takes them really really long to fix champion bugs or they only really do it when they have an incentive Anyway it's cool for vlad whatever the reasoning behind it.
They either can't fix it or they don't care.Not sure which one I prefer honestly.
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On July 11 2014 04:24 kongoline wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 04:20 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:10 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:08 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:04 kongoline wrote:
lol just realized all the meaningless vlad changes riot did recently is because of the new skin, i always thought they are greedy but deep inside hoped maybe im wrong, sad eh. vlad does need some buffs/changes though. He hasn't been relevant since what? season 2? None of the changes will make him relevant though? 4.7 was a bunch of bug fixes, which were reasonably significant. The pool-Zhonya change is also imo more of a fix than anything, since Vlad's pool was (I think) the only skill in the game that locks you out of using Zhonyas. If you guys are suggesting Riot should just not fix anything or that fixes are only done as cash grabs then I really don't know what to say. its not the first time they did random meaningless changes to champion before they released new skin just to nerf it 2 months later
yes. Riot is totally going to nerf an unplayed champion whose only changes in almost TWO years are bug fixes/consistency changes because once they get the money they can fuck Vlad players all they want. amirite
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I think Riot has Vlad in intentional "too toxic to be top tier", I'm pretty sure Morello has called the hero a "mistake"
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On July 11 2014 04:29 Slusher wrote:
I think Riot has Vlad in intentional "too toxic to be top tier", I'm pretty sure Morello has called the hero a "mistake"
Don't think what Morello says matters lol. He said that manaless sustain(vlad) is a mistake then Rengar was released. He's also said Irelia is toxic and she's being played now.
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On July 11 2014 04:25 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 04:20 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:10 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:08 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:04 kongoline wrote:
lol just realized all the meaningless vlad changes riot did recently is because of the new skin, i always thought they are greedy but deep inside hoped maybe im wrong, sad eh. vlad does need some buffs/changes though. He hasn't been relevant since what? season 2? None of the changes will make him relevant though? 4.7 was a bunch of bug fixes, which were reasonably significant. The pool-Zhonya change is also imo more of a fix than anything, since Vlad's pool was (I think) the only skill in the game that locks you out of using Zhonyas. If you guys are suggesting Riot should just not fix anything or that fixes are only done as cash grabs then I really don't know what to say. Would be cool if they made changes that did help him be relevant though. This stuff has been wrong with vlad for quite some time so dunno timing is pretty strange. Then again Liss/Shen have been bugged for what years? Either takes them really really long to fix champion bugs or they only really do it when they have an incentive Anyway it's cool for vlad whatever the reasoning behind it.
I'm willing to bet the Shen bug is like the minimap bug where people would randomly appear in odd places. It's been around for over two years and Shen is a reasonably high tier pick. Riot probably just has no idea how to reproduce the bug reliably and thus dunno how to fix.
Lissandra is likely low on the priority list since she's never really been relevant since her release. Granted, the bug doesn't help, but I think she has more problems with her kit than just an unreliable ult.
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I also don't think Vlad is too weak for solo, and I don't mean that in a "you can play anything in solo que LOL" way. In solo Q you can pick him safely if the other top has already picked without having to worry about the other team punishing you with swaps and what not. He's a strong late game hero that can also fill pretty diverse rolls within a team just by altering his build.
but unfortunately for Vlad LCS viable is required for fotm status
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On July 11 2014 04:32 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 04:25 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:20 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:10 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:08 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:04 kongoline wrote:
lol just realized all the meaningless vlad changes riot did recently is because of the new skin, i always thought they are greedy but deep inside hoped maybe im wrong, sad eh. vlad does need some buffs/changes though. He hasn't been relevant since what? season 2? None of the changes will make him relevant though? 4.7 was a bunch of bug fixes, which were reasonably significant. The pool-Zhonya change is also imo more of a fix than anything, since Vlad's pool was (I think) the only skill in the game that locks you out of using Zhonyas. If you guys are suggesting Riot should just not fix anything or that fixes are only done as cash grabs then I really don't know what to say. Would be cool if they made changes that did help him be relevant though. This stuff has been wrong with vlad for quite some time so dunno timing is pretty strange. Then again Liss/Shen have been bugged for what years? Either takes them really really long to fix champion bugs or they only really do it when they have an incentive Anyway it's cool for vlad whatever the reasoning behind it. I'm willing to bet the Shen bug is like the minimap bug where people would randomly appear in odd places. It's been around for over two years and Shen is a reasonably high tier pick. Riot probably just has no idea how to reproduce the bug reliably and thus dunno how to fix. Lissandra is likely low on the priority list since she's never really been relevant since her release. Granted, the bug doesn't help, but I think she has more problems with her kit than just an unreliable ult.
Yea think Liss would be strong if you could chain CC in league. As is her kit just isn't good enough. There's just been quite a few heroes that have had bugs in their kits for a very long time and it gets fixed very slowly. Rengar is another prime example. I'm guessing it's just really hard to fix things in League, conspiracy theories don't make too much sense to me.
Just to talk about slow to fix things. As you mentioned you got minimap bug but you also got all the vision issues in brushes which seems will only get fixed when new map comes out. Honestly not really sure how many people in Riot are actively working on the game versus people working on future plans. Feels as if not a lot of the companies resources are on the game currently.
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On July 11 2014 04:35 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 04:32 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:25 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:20 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:10 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:08 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:04 kongoline wrote:
lol just realized all the meaningless vlad changes riot did recently is because of the new skin, i always thought they are greedy but deep inside hoped maybe im wrong, sad eh. vlad does need some buffs/changes though. He hasn't been relevant since what? season 2? None of the changes will make him relevant though? 4.7 was a bunch of bug fixes, which were reasonably significant. The pool-Zhonya change is also imo more of a fix than anything, since Vlad's pool was (I think) the only skill in the game that locks you out of using Zhonyas. If you guys are suggesting Riot should just not fix anything or that fixes are only done as cash grabs then I really don't know what to say. Would be cool if they made changes that did help him be relevant though. This stuff has been wrong with vlad for quite some time so dunno timing is pretty strange. Then again Liss/Shen have been bugged for what years? Either takes them really really long to fix champion bugs or they only really do it when they have an incentive Anyway it's cool for vlad whatever the reasoning behind it. I'm willing to bet the Shen bug is like the minimap bug where people would randomly appear in odd places. It's been around for over two years and Shen is a reasonably high tier pick. Riot probably just has no idea how to reproduce the bug reliably and thus dunno how to fix. Lissandra is likely low on the priority list since she's never really been relevant since her release. Granted, the bug doesn't help, but I think she has more problems with her kit than just an unreliable ult. Yea think Liss would be strong if you could chain CC in league. As is her kit just isn't good enough. There's just been quite a few heroes that have had bugs in their kits for a very long time and it gets fixed very slowly. Rengar is another prime example. I'm guessing it's just really hard to fix things in League, conspiracy theories don't make too much sense to me. Just to talk about slow to fix things. As you mentioned you got minimap bug but you also got all the vision issues in brushes which seems will only get fixed when new map comes out. Honestly not really sure how many people in Riot are actively working on the game versus people working on future plans. Feels as if not a lot of the companies resources are on the game currently.
Yea, not being able to really chain cc is a huge problem. Another is the fact that her engage is shit, which is really really problematic considering how she virtually has to be in melee range to get full use out of her kit. If Riot makes her E faster or longer range, she could be a top tier pick.
I think it's also the fact that the code base for League is just really really really really really shit. Then you add that for the first two or so years of League's lifetime before League really exploded, all fixes were just band-aid fixes rather than fixes that actually solve the problem, creating more shit Riot's current coders have to wade through. Add up all that crap and you get a big mess that's incredibly hard to deal with.
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Honestly the minimap bug is the least ridiculous thing compared to what happened to me in a game last night.
Im sitting in mid minding my own business. Sejuani WALKS IN FRONT OF ME IN MID(enemy team) no icon on the map or anything,then pops out of a bush top.
like
i have never in my life seen anything like that before it was so god damn weird
On July 11 2014 04:32 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 04:25 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:20 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:10 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:08 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:04 kongoline wrote:
lol just realized all the meaningless vlad changes riot did recently is because of the new skin, i always thought they are greedy but deep inside hoped maybe im wrong, sad eh. vlad does need some buffs/changes though. He hasn't been relevant since what? season 2? None of the changes will make him relevant though? 4.7 was a bunch of bug fixes, which were reasonably significant. The pool-Zhonya change is also imo more of a fix than anything, since Vlad's pool was (I think) the only skill in the game that locks you out of using Zhonyas. If you guys are suggesting Riot should just not fix anything or that fixes are only done as cash grabs then I really don't know what to say. Would be cool if they made changes that did help him be relevant though. This stuff has been wrong with vlad for quite some time so dunno timing is pretty strange. Then again Liss/Shen have been bugged for what years? Either takes them really really long to fix champion bugs or they only really do it when they have an incentive Anyway it's cool for vlad whatever the reasoning behind it. I'm willing to bet the Shen bug is like the minimap bug where people would randomly appear in odd places. It's been around for over two years and Shen is a reasonably high tier pick. Riot probably just has no idea how to reproduce the bug reliably and thus dunno how to fix. Lissandra is likely low on the priority list since she's never really been relevant since her release. Granted, the bug doesn't help, but I think she has more problems with her kit than just an unreliable ult.
Lissandra was picked for a while in lcs or something by some korean team i think, cant remember. but i know she was picked for a while, her kit is pretty good too tbh.
Saying she has shitty initiate is pretty stupid too imo.
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The guy working on Shen talked about it, just roam the redtracker about a week or two ago. For one it's hard to reproduce it, he says, so he put some code that reports whenever he can detect it, that they shipped live so he'd get more data. Then he more or less found where it's from, and there's a ugly fix he could do that would run the risk of being a liability later (and as a developer: you don't want that when your logiciel isn't going to sit there unupdated) or he can try to find the root cause and fix it instead.
He also said that he's not full time on the bugfix, and it's not even his main task, he does it whenever he got spare time in whatever he's assigned to.
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On July 11 2014 04:04 miicah wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 17:55 obesechicken13 wrote:On July 10 2014 17:27 Alaric wrote:On July 10 2014 13:14 wei2coolman wrote:On July 10 2014 13:11 Sufficiency wrote:
His animation was only bad at release. I played him yesterday. Both his melee and ranged animation in early levels felt really clunky. His spell animation for his q and e in melee also have that clunky feel too. It's so he can knock you back towards his tower even if you flash on the opposite side of him, for an extra 400 distance knock-back. This was fixed. I can't find it in the league patch notes on Jayce's wiki but it was in one patch. I can still do it to some slow jumps like Trist's W but Jayce will never be able to waste people's flash with melee E again. Haven't been able to do it in ages. I played Jayce mid the other day vs Lee and he Q'd into me and instantly W back to one of his minions. However I cast my E at some point during his W animation and he was knocked back regardless.
Lee's W has an animation but flash doesn't. I think it was the patch that made skarner unable to ult flashed targets. I specifically said some slower animations can be knocked back by Jayce's E. If you flash during Jayce's E, Jayce's E doesn't go on cooldown but he still does the animation. Nothing happens to the flashed target.
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On July 11 2014 04:29 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 04:24 kongoline wrote:On July 11 2014 04:20 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:10 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:08 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:04 kongoline wrote:
lol just realized all the meaningless vlad changes riot did recently is because of the new skin, i always thought they are greedy but deep inside hoped maybe im wrong, sad eh. vlad does need some buffs/changes though. He hasn't been relevant since what? season 2? None of the changes will make him relevant though? 4.7 was a bunch of bug fixes, which were reasonably significant. The pool-Zhonya change is also imo more of a fix than anything, since Vlad's pool was (I think) the only skill in the game that locks you out of using Zhonyas. If you guys are suggesting Riot should just not fix anything or that fixes are only done as cash grabs then I really don't know what to say. its not the first time they did random meaningless changes to champion before they released new skin just to nerf it 2 months later yes. Riot is totally going to nerf an unplayed champion whose only changes in almost TWO years are bug fixes/consistency changes because once they get the money they can fuck Vlad players all they want. amirite
even as vlad main i agree his design is flawed sustain,manaless,ranged poke etc but i feel he is fine right now (maybe not tier 1 but still sees competitive play from time to time) and im 100% sure if he ever becomes popular he will be nerfed or reworked pretty fast, thats why i dont want them to touch him in fear of ending like xerath
idk how can u defend them at this point when its pretty clear money grab, they did the same with rumble when they buffed him just before legendary skin release meanwhile dozen of champions need help a lot more
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On July 11 2014 04:48 kongoline wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 04:29 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:24 kongoline wrote:On July 11 2014 04:20 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:10 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:08 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:04 kongoline wrote:
lol just realized all the meaningless vlad changes riot did recently is because of the new skin, i always thought they are greedy but deep inside hoped maybe im wrong, sad eh. vlad does need some buffs/changes though. He hasn't been relevant since what? season 2? None of the changes will make him relevant though? 4.7 was a bunch of bug fixes, which were reasonably significant. The pool-Zhonya change is also imo more of a fix than anything, since Vlad's pool was (I think) the only skill in the game that locks you out of using Zhonyas. If you guys are suggesting Riot should just not fix anything or that fixes are only done as cash grabs then I really don't know what to say. its not the first time they did random meaningless changes to champion before they released new skin just to nerf it 2 months later yes. Riot is totally going to nerf an unplayed champion whose only changes in almost TWO years are bug fixes/consistency changes because once they get the money they can fuck Vlad players all they want. amirite even as vlad main i agree his design is flawed sustain,manaless,ranged poke etc etc, but i feel he is fine right now (maybe not tier 1 but still sees competitive play from time to time) and im 100% sure if he ever becomes popular he will be nerfed or reworked pretty fast, thats why i dont want them touch him in fear of ending like xerath idk how can u be defending them at this point when its pretty clear money grab, they did the same with rumble when they buffed him just before legendary skin release meanwhile dozen of champions need help a lot more
Funny thing is Xerath wasn't even about him not being viable or being too good. It seemed like a rioter basically decided he didn't like Xerath so he went and reworked him. The most bizarre design decision I've seen in a game in awhile.
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On July 11 2014 04:51 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 04:48 kongoline wrote:On July 11 2014 04:29 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:24 kongoline wrote:On July 11 2014 04:20 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:10 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:08 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:04 kongoline wrote:
lol just realized all the meaningless vlad changes riot did recently is because of the new skin, i always thought they are greedy but deep inside hoped maybe im wrong, sad eh. vlad does need some buffs/changes though. He hasn't been relevant since what? season 2? None of the changes will make him relevant though? 4.7 was a bunch of bug fixes, which were reasonably significant. The pool-Zhonya change is also imo more of a fix than anything, since Vlad's pool was (I think) the only skill in the game that locks you out of using Zhonyas. If you guys are suggesting Riot should just not fix anything or that fixes are only done as cash grabs then I really don't know what to say. its not the first time they did random meaningless changes to champion before they released new skin just to nerf it 2 months later yes. Riot is totally going to nerf an unplayed champion whose only changes in almost TWO years are bug fixes/consistency changes because once they get the money they can fuck Vlad players all they want. amirite even as vlad main i agree his design is flawed sustain,manaless,ranged poke etc etc, but i feel he is fine right now (maybe not tier 1 but still sees competitive play from time to time) and im 100% sure if he ever becomes popular he will be nerfed or reworked pretty fast, thats why i dont want them touch him in fear of ending like xerath idk how can u be defending them at this point when its pretty clear money grab, they did the same with rumble when they buffed him just before legendary skin release meanwhile dozen of champions need help a lot more Funny thing is Xerath wasn't even about him not being viable or being too good. It seemed like a rioter basically decided he didn't like Xerath so he went and reworked him. The most bizarre design decision I've seen in a game in awhile.
they reworked him because he was boring an unable to play tbh.
if they changed his current ult to what it was before i.e not raindrops he'd be pretty sweet imo.
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On July 11 2014 04:48 kongoline wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 04:29 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:24 kongoline wrote:On July 11 2014 04:20 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:10 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:08 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:04 kongoline wrote:
lol just realized all the meaningless vlad changes riot did recently is because of the new skin, i always thought they are greedy but deep inside hoped maybe im wrong, sad eh. vlad does need some buffs/changes though. He hasn't been relevant since what? season 2? None of the changes will make him relevant though? 4.7 was a bunch of bug fixes, which were reasonably significant. The pool-Zhonya change is also imo more of a fix than anything, since Vlad's pool was (I think) the only skill in the game that locks you out of using Zhonyas. If you guys are suggesting Riot should just not fix anything or that fixes are only done as cash grabs then I really don't know what to say. its not the first time they did random meaningless changes to champion before they released new skin just to nerf it 2 months later yes. Riot is totally going to nerf an unplayed champion whose only changes in almost TWO years are bug fixes/consistency changes because once they get the money they can fuck Vlad players all they want. amirite even as vlad main i agree his design is flawed sustain,manaless,ranged poke etc but i feel he is fine right now (maybe not tier 1 but still sees competitive play from time to time) and im 100% sure if he ever becomes popular he will be nerfed or reworked pretty fast, thats why i dont want them to touch him in fear of ending like xerath idk how can u defend them at this point when its pretty clear money grab, they did the same with rumble when they buffed him just before legendary skin release meanwhile dozen of champions need help a lot more
erm. Rumble's most recent buff was 4.6, which was after the skin release. The only buff before that was 3.7, which was almost a year before the release.
The only change they made to Rumble before the skin release was making the flames look better.
On July 11 2014 04:45 arb wrote:
Lissandra was picked for a while in lcs or something by some korean team i think, cant remember. but i know she was picked for a while, her kit is pretty good too tbh.
Saying she has shitty initiate is pretty stupid too imo.
She was picked for like one or two weeks in LCS a couple weeks after her release. Did pretty poorly, then was never picked again.
Her initiate is pretty terrible when compared to other champions that do similar things. For example, in terms of long range initiation, Zac has longer range and has a faster initiation. In terms of single-target lock down, Skarner's lockdown is arguably stronger. Her kill potential is also intentionally not as good as other assassins.
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On July 11 2014 04:57 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 04:51 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:48 kongoline wrote:On July 11 2014 04:29 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:24 kongoline wrote:On July 11 2014 04:20 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:10 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:08 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:04 kongoline wrote:
lol just realized all the meaningless vlad changes riot did recently is because of the new skin, i always thought they are greedy but deep inside hoped maybe im wrong, sad eh. vlad does need some buffs/changes though. He hasn't been relevant since what? season 2? None of the changes will make him relevant though? 4.7 was a bunch of bug fixes, which were reasonably significant. The pool-Zhonya change is also imo more of a fix than anything, since Vlad's pool was (I think) the only skill in the game that locks you out of using Zhonyas. If you guys are suggesting Riot should just not fix anything or that fixes are only done as cash grabs then I really don't know what to say. its not the first time they did random meaningless changes to champion before they released new skin just to nerf it 2 months later yes. Riot is totally going to nerf an unplayed champion whose only changes in almost TWO years are bug fixes/consistency changes because once they get the money they can fuck Vlad players all they want. amirite even as vlad main i agree his design is flawed sustain,manaless,ranged poke etc etc, but i feel he is fine right now (maybe not tier 1 but still sees competitive play from time to time) and im 100% sure if he ever becomes popular he will be nerfed or reworked pretty fast, thats why i dont want them touch him in fear of ending like xerath idk how can u be defending them at this point when its pretty clear money grab, they did the same with rumble when they buffed him just before legendary skin release meanwhile dozen of champions need help a lot more Funny thing is Xerath wasn't even about him not being viable or being too good. It seemed like a rioter basically decided he didn't like Xerath so he went and reworked him. The most bizarre design decision I've seen in a game in awhile. they reworked him because he was boring an unable to play tbh. if they changed his current ult to what it was before i.e not raindrops he'd be pretty sweet imo.
Doesn't make much sense. He was seeing some competitive picks and had a decent winrate. There's a ton of champs that are boring to play while having poor winrates. Why on earth would you rework someone like Xerath over them lol. Think a Rioter just got a bee in their bonnet.
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On July 11 2014 04:59 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 04:57 arb wrote:On July 11 2014 04:51 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:48 kongoline wrote:On July 11 2014 04:29 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:24 kongoline wrote:On July 11 2014 04:20 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:10 Numy wrote:On July 11 2014 04:08 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 11 2014 04:04 kongoline wrote:
lol just realized all the meaningless vlad changes riot did recently is because of the new skin, i always thought they are greedy but deep inside hoped maybe im wrong, sad eh. vlad does need some buffs/changes though. He hasn't been relevant since what? season 2? None of the changes will make him relevant though? 4.7 was a bunch of bug fixes, which were reasonably significant. The pool-Zhonya change is also imo more of a fix than anything, since Vlad's pool was (I think) the only skill in the game that locks you out of using Zhonyas. If you guys are suggesting Riot should just not fix anything or that fixes are only done as cash grabs then I really don't know what to say. its not the first time they did random meaningless changes to champion before they released new skin just to nerf it 2 months later yes. Riot is totally going to nerf an unplayed champion whose only changes in almost TWO years are bug fixes/consistency changes because once they get the money they can fuck Vlad players all they want. amirite even as vlad main i agree his design is flawed sustain,manaless,ranged poke etc etc, but i feel he is fine right now (maybe not tier 1 but still sees competitive play from time to time) and im 100% sure if he ever becomes popular he will be nerfed or reworked pretty fast, thats why i dont want them touch him in fear of ending like xerath idk how can u be defending them at this point when its pretty clear money grab, they did the same with rumble when they buffed him just before legendary skin release meanwhile dozen of champions need help a lot more Funny thing is Xerath wasn't even about him not being viable or being too good. It seemed like a rioter basically decided he didn't like Xerath so he went and reworked him. The most bizarre design decision I've seen in a game in awhile. they reworked him because he was boring an unable to play tbh. if they changed his current ult to what it was before i.e not raindrops he'd be pretty sweet imo. Doesn't make much sense. He was seeing some competitive picks and had a decent winrate. There's a ton of champs that are boring to play while having poor winrates. Why on earth would you rework someone like Xerath over them lol. Think a Rioter just got a bee in their bonnet.
er not unable
uninteresting i mean lolol.
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I liked the old xerath, he was a bit boring but there are a lot of boring champs
I actually really (partially) like the new xerath, his QWE are really fun and have good synergy....its just his ult has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of his kit and cannot be comboed with any of his other skills. Its basically like you are playing without an ult, but if someone escapes with a sliver of health you can maybe pick them off.
Also its just a fucking frustrating skill. You know its damage potential if you land all three plinks, but is basically impossible unless you enemy is braindead, so you're actually lucky to land two and usually only get around one, so you get frustrated every time you use it because you can't ever land the whole thing.
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