EPT[Patch 4.11] Maokai Rework General Discussion - Page 35
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On July 07 2014 03:23 wei2coolman wrote: A lot of vlads problems would be solved if they boosted his base AD and AS so last hitting wasn't so painful. i've never had a problem with his animation, his ad is painfully low so he cant last hit under tower well though. but to be fair you have E to lower them into 1 shot range in early levels | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 07 2014 03:31 Nos- wrote: without revolver if you use E to prep creeps at low levels you're gonna run yourself dangerously low This is pretty much the reason playing him at early levels is a fucking pain. If he could reliably last hit under turret without killing himself it wouldn't be so bad. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On July 07 2014 03:31 Nos- wrote: without revolver if you use E to prep creeps at low levels you're gonna run yourself dangerously low Rank 1 E costs 30 health, if you use it once to prep creeps under tower if youre getting pushed in(not uncommon till lvl 7 or so without a huge lead) Q will always heal back the damage you took past lvl 2(lvl 3 its 100% sure) but once you get revolvers health costs on him are pretty trivial i agree since they removed health cost on his ult its alot better also | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 07 2014 03:47 gtrsrs wrote: all this talk has made me want to play vlad Me too. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Why did people stop playing Tanky junglers? More importantly why did I stop playing Tanks... Man I am good at playing tanks. lol. Nothing quite like showing up at the 10 minute mark with 100 armor and 2500 health and tanking 15 turret shots. Everyone used to the Squshy jungles. I having fun. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On July 07 2014 05:22 obesechicken13 wrote: I haven't been able to play the vs Vlad matchup much but wouldn't spectre's cowl kind of weaken his laning phase? Making it so he beats like no one in lane. Since most people can wreck vlad in a fight, it's better to build damage and just fight vlad. He can't stack E if he's low on health, and Q can only do so much for sustaining if you've lost 2/3 of your health in a trade. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 07 2014 07:51 YouGotNothin wrote: I'm no Vlad expert but I don't really like revolver on him, unless I am up against another laner with inherent sustain it just seems overkill, I already have an ability that heals me. It is decent if you get behind because you can't get shoved out of lane easily, but if ahead/even I really like going guise+sorcs->zhonyas/rylais->rylais/zhonyas->liandries. It gives him some nice early game power into utility and tankiness and the liandries works well with his focus on sustained damage. The problem with guise first is majority of matchups for Vlad end up with early spectres against him, making guise shit. (obviously, if against matchups that don't build spectres, it's good). All his first item buys sorta suck. The idea behind revolver is pretty nice though, just split equal as hard as possible for as long as possible so he can eventually outscale. | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
On July 07 2014 07:51 YouGotNothin wrote: I'm no Vlad expert but I don't really like revolver on him, unless I am up against another laner with inherent sustain it just seems overkill, I already have an ability that heals me. It is decent if you get behind because you can't get shoved out of lane easily, but if ahead/even I really like going guise+sorcs->zhonyas/rylais->rylais/zhonyas->liandries. It gives him some nice early game power into utility and tankiness and the liandries works well with his focus on sustained damage. the best vlad players would agree that going some pen into a fast zhonyas is the way to go on Vlad, | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22169 Posts
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
On July 07 2014 08:25 GhandiEAGLE wrote: The whole thing about revolver on Vlad is that it helps you control the lane much better with Tides of Blood, but it still wasn't all that worth it. I miss when you could go Spectral Wraith, that item gave Vlad an easy early option to go for but didn't completely suck like WotA. wota is actually kind of nice now, its like the same thing as spectral but with worse jungle farming for an extra 30 ap | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/pr0lly here's prolly's. | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
im too nervous for my challenger promos hold me ;-; | ||
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