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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 06 2014 18:23 GMT
#681
A lot of vlads problems would be solved if they boosted his base AD and AS so last hitting wasn't so painful.
liftlift > tsm
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 06 2014 18:27 GMT
#682
On July 07 2014 03:23 wei2coolman wrote:
A lot of vlads problems would be solved if they boosted his base AD and AS so last hitting wasn't so painful.

i've never had a problem with his animation, his ad is painfully low so he cant last hit under tower well though. but to be fair you have E to lower them into 1 shot range in early levels
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 06 2014 18:31 GMT
#683
without revolver if you use E to prep creeps at low levels you're gonna run yourself dangerously low
Bronze player stuck in platinum
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 06 2014 18:37 GMT
#684
On July 07 2014 03:31 Nos- wrote:
without revolver if you use E to prep creeps at low levels you're gonna run yourself dangerously low

This is pretty much the reason playing him at early levels is a fucking pain. If he could reliably last hit under turret without killing himself it wouldn't be so bad.
liftlift > tsm
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 06 2014 18:47 GMT
#685
all this talk has made me want to play vlad
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 06 2014 18:50 GMT
#686
On July 07 2014 03:31 Nos- wrote:
without revolver if you use E to prep creeps at low levels you're gonna run yourself dangerously low

Rank 1 E costs 30 health, if you use it once to prep creeps under tower if youre getting pushed in(not uncommon till lvl 7 or so without a huge lead) Q will always heal back the damage you took past lvl 2(lvl 3 its 100% sure) but once you get revolvers health costs on him are pretty trivial i agree

since they removed health cost on his ult its alot better also
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 06 2014 18:59 GMT
#687
On July 07 2014 03:47 gtrsrs wrote:
all this talk has made me want to play vlad


Me too.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 06 2014 19:05 GMT
#688
God damn sejuani is good.

Why did people stop playing Tanky junglers? More importantly why did I stop playing Tanks... Man I am good at playing tanks.

lol. Nothing quite like showing up at the 10 minute mark with 100 armor and 2500 health and tanking 15 turret shots. Everyone used to the Squshy jungles. I having fun.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 20:23:20
July 06 2014 20:22 GMT
#689
I haven't been able to play the vs Vlad matchup much but wouldn't spectre's cowl kind of weaken his laning phase? Making it so he beats like no one in lane.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 06 2014 20:36 GMT
#690
On July 07 2014 05:22 obesechicken13 wrote:
I haven't been able to play the vs Vlad matchup much but wouldn't spectre's cowl kind of weaken his laning phase? Making it so he beats like no one in lane.

Since most people can wreck vlad in a fight, it's better to build damage and just fight vlad. He can't stack E if he's low on health, and Q can only do so much for sustaining if you've lost 2/3 of your health in a trade.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 06 2014 22:28 GMT
#691
I just realized today how outdated my rune pages are...
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
July 06 2014 22:51 GMT
#692
I'm no Vlad expert but I don't really like revolver on him, unless I am up against another laner with inherent sustain it just seems overkill, I already have an ability that heals me. It is decent if you get behind because you can't get shoved out of lane easily, but if ahead/even I really like going guise+sorcs->zhonyas/rylais->rylais/zhonyas->liandries. It gives him some nice early game power into utility and tankiness and the liandries works well with his focus on sustained damage.
I got nothin'...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 23:00:24
July 06 2014 22:56 GMT
#693
On July 07 2014 07:51 YouGotNothin wrote:
I'm no Vlad expert but I don't really like revolver on him, unless I am up against another laner with inherent sustain it just seems overkill, I already have an ability that heals me. It is decent if you get behind because you can't get shoved out of lane easily, but if ahead/even I really like going guise+sorcs->zhonyas/rylais->rylais/zhonyas->liandries. It gives him some nice early game power into utility and tankiness and the liandries works well with his focus on sustained damage.

The problem with guise first is majority of matchups for Vlad end up with early spectres against him, making guise shit. (obviously, if against matchups that don't build spectres, it's good).

All his first item buys sorta suck. The idea behind revolver is pretty nice though, just split equal as hard as possible for as long as possible so he can eventually outscale.
liftlift > tsm
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
July 06 2014 22:58 GMT
#694
On July 07 2014 07:51 YouGotNothin wrote:
I'm no Vlad expert but I don't really like revolver on him, unless I am up against another laner with inherent sustain it just seems overkill, I already have an ability that heals me. It is decent if you get behind because you can't get shoved out of lane easily, but if ahead/even I really like going guise+sorcs->zhonyas/rylais->rylais/zhonyas->liandries. It gives him some nice early game power into utility and tankiness and the liandries works well with his focus on sustained damage.


the best vlad players would agree that going some pen into a fast zhonyas is the way to go on Vlad,
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 06 2014 23:25 GMT
#695
The whole thing about revolver on Vlad is that it helps you control the lane much better with Tides of Blood, but it still wasn't all that worth it. I miss when you could go Spectral Wraith, that item gave Vlad an easy early option to go for but didn't completely suck like WotA.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21950 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 23:26:42
July 06 2014 23:26 GMT
#696
wrong thread
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
July 07 2014 00:07 GMT
#697
On July 07 2014 08:25 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
The whole thing about revolver on Vlad is that it helps you control the lane much better with Tides of Blood, but it still wasn't all that worth it. I miss when you could go Spectral Wraith, that item gave Vlad an easy early option to go for but didn't completely suck like WotA.


wota is actually kind of nice now, its like the same thing as spectral but with worse jungle farming for an extra 30 ap
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 00:24:30
July 07 2014 00:24 GMT
#698
Wrong thread.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 07 2014 02:06 GMT
#699
I know coL sucks and stuff, would still be cool if whoever is in charge of streams could put their stream on sidebar list.

http://www.twitch.tv/pr0lly

here's prolly's.
liftlift > tsm
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
July 07 2014 02:09 GMT
#700
aghhh +0 at 99lp

im too nervous for my challenger promos hold me ;-;
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