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Turrets select targets slightly faster
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[Patch 4.11] Maokai Rework General Discussion - Page 3
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On July 02 2014 08:32 IMoperator wrote: nid has been bottom 3 winrate since she got changed, idk why everyone is so against these buffs it's not like she was dominating everyone her winrate was crap because she got a massive rework. Lots of people were still playing her the old way and needed to adjust. Nid's winrate has been steadily increasing since the rework and it's only been two weeks. Riot did the exact same thing with Kassadin and they've basically reverted every buff they've given him and he's still incredibly strong. Nid's kit is quite strong right now. Riot should've given more time for people to adjust to it before rolling out buffs. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
I remember IE being one of the items in kayle's kit back then. Don't remember the build up though. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On July 02 2014 08:41 Djin)ftw( wrote: Yeah well, people need time to adapt. hotshot was doing more than alright even before the buff. jax nerfs are hilarious though, he loses ~200 hp and 9 armor at lvl 18. RIP t.t meh. Jax should be fine still imo. He probably can't rush both Triforce and Bork consecutively now, but otherwise I imagine he'll still be pretty highly contested. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On July 02 2014 08:40 obesechicken13 wrote: No one did IE rush back in S2 iirc. The hitbox nerfs are interesting. I wasn't aware of them either and they definitely contribute to the strength of a champ. Yes they did.The standart was ie>zeal kayle top lane. Look at tournament games here https://elobuff.com/summoners/tr3-tsmdyrus/champions/kayle | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
now we get old Dblade and old Kayle E back 2 patches one after the next, that said I think the gamestate has changed a lot since then and I'm not sure if it would be a good build now. damn all of Rincent's guides on solo mid have been deleted,  he's just a lost relic of history now. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
Vladimir can now cast summoner spells and use items while in his troll pool We are seeing far more comments like this in the patch notes and it's really grating on my nerves. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On July 02 2014 09:06 layabout wrote: We are seeing far more comments like this in the patch notes and it's really grating on my nerves. eh why? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 02 2014 08:41 Djin)ftw( wrote: Yeah well, people need time to adapt. hotshot was doing more than alright even before the buff. jax nerfs are hilarious though, he loses ~200 hp and 9 armor at lvl 18. RIP t.t With 4.10 changes he was pretty good since randuins got nerfed. Woulda liked to see him played a bit more in competitive before this nerf... | ||
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phathom321
United States1730 Posts
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On July 02 2014 09:06 layabout wrote: We are seeing far more comments like this in the patch notes and it's really grating on my nerves. Although I somewhat understand why it would annoy some people, I think it's mostly there to give the patch notes some flavor. Pretend they don't exist, and you still get the information you want out of them. I also don't enjoy them, but it's not that big of a deal that I will worry about them continuing the trend. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 02 2014 08:06 Ryuu314 wrote: how much you guys wanna bet Riot just overbuffed Nid and they're gonna have to pull a post-rework Kassadin in a few weeks and revert all (or most) of the changes. IMO Feral Flare is an awful item that should never have been made because it completely contradicts the role of the jungler. Either it's OP (like on release) cause it's too easy to stack/scales too well so you can afford to let your team get buttfucked for 10 minutes while you afk farm OR it never gets stacked because it doesn't stack/scale well enough for you to justify afk farming. Its not a Feral Flare problem though, its a jungle item problem. The entire Machete class never should have been made. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On July 02 2014 09:21 GolemMadness wrote: Kayle just got wrecked. E AP ratio reduced by 50%, ult cooldown increased by 33% at max rank and attack speed per level nerfed. Probably warranted, given that her win rate has topped 56%. especially considering they are balancing at 2 week intervals there is no reason to nerf more than 1 of these at once. | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
It's comes off as really fake. Calling Vlad's pool a "troll pool" is the kind of thing that member if the community might do, if they thought it was funny. It's the kind of thing one of your friends might say if they were that type of person. Riot is not your friend. Riot's decision's have been straying from "lets design an alternative to dota" to "how do we keep people playing/ monetize the crap out of them" for a long time. So if they try to act like my friend it pisses me off because it's disingenuous and it's within the context of them telling us how they are trying to change the game to appease people rather than improve it. It's also not funny and coming from riot makes it even less so. Be a decent person, show respect for humour. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On July 02 2014 09:14 wei2coolman wrote: With 4.10 changes he was pretty good since randuins got nerfed. Woulda liked to see him played a bit more in competitive before this nerf... If anything nerfing Randuin's played against him. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 02 2014 09:21 GolemMadness wrote: Kayle just got wrecked. E AP ratio reduced by 50%, ult cooldown increased by 33% at max rank and attack speed per level nerfed. Probably warranted, given that her win rate has topped 56%. The AS nerfs, IMO, are the dumb ones. They really affect play in bad ways (AKA reduce skill) and have bad unintended consequences. AS, and range (cast times if more champs had them) are like the worst ways to balance. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35160 Posts
On July 02 2014 09:35 Alaric wrote: If anything nerfing Randuin's played against him. Nah mang, pop on the heart more frozen than your ex'es. Fool takes a step back just cuz you around. | ||
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