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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 01 2014 23:44 GMT
#41
TURRET APM
Turrets select targets slightly faster

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NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate this change so much and you all should to
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 01 2014 23:44 GMT
#42
On July 02 2014 08:32 IMoperator wrote:
nid has been bottom 3 winrate since she got changed, idk why everyone is so against these buffs it's not like she was dominating everyone

her winrate was crap because she got a massive rework. Lots of people were still playing her the old way and needed to adjust. Nid's winrate has been steadily increasing since the rework and it's only been two weeks.

Riot did the exact same thing with Kassadin and they've basically reverted every buff they've given him and he's still incredibly strong. Nid's kit is quite strong right now. Riot should've given more time for people to adjust to it before rolling out buffs.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 01 2014 23:44 GMT
#43
On July 02 2014 08:40 obesechicken13 wrote:
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On July 02 2014 08:14 Slusher wrote:
On July 02 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
Kayle's E is back to its old levels right?


if by old you mean s2 when IE rush top lane kayle was the build, yes

No one did IE rush back in S2 iirc.

I remember IE being one of the items in kayle's kit back then. Don't remember the build up though.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 01 2014 23:46 GMT
#44
On July 02 2014 08:41 Djin)ftw( wrote:
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On July 02 2014 08:32 IMoperator wrote:
nid has been bottom 3 winrate since she got changed, idk why everyone is so against these buffs it's not like she was dominating everyone


Yeah well, people need time to adapt. hotshot was doing more than alright even before the buff.
jax nerfs are hilarious though, he loses ~200 hp and 9 armor at lvl 18. RIP t.t

meh. Jax should be fine still imo. He probably can't rush both Triforce and Bork consecutively now, but otherwise I imagine he'll still be pretty highly contested.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 23:53:41
July 01 2014 23:49 GMT
#45
On July 02 2014 08:40 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 08:14 Slusher wrote:
On July 02 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
Kayle's E is back to its old levels right?


if by old you mean s2 when IE rush top lane kayle was the build, yes

No one did IE rush back in S2 iirc.

The hitbox nerfs are interesting. I wasn't aware of them either and they definitely contribute to the strength of a champ.

Yes they did.The standart was ie>zeal kayle top lane.

Look at tournament games here https://elobuff.com/summoners/tr3-tsmdyrus/champions/kayle
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
July 02 2014 00:01 GMT
#46
I thought Nid could use some small buffs like just her base hp and base armor going up would've been fine. All that other stuff pushes it into wtf territory
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-02 00:10:37
July 02 2014 00:06 GMT
#47
ironically back then dblades had 3% lifesteal, so you could do the 2 dblade into ie build that adcs used back then.

now we get old Dblade and old Kayle E back 2 patches one after the next, that said I think the gamestate has changed a lot since then and I'm not sure if it would be a good build now.

damn all of Rincent's guides on solo mid have been deleted, he's just a lost relic of history now.
Carrilord has arrived.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 02 2014 00:06 GMT
#48
Vladimir can now cast summoner spells and use items while in his troll pool
We are seeing far more comments like this in the patch notes and it's really grating on my nerves.
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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 02 2014 00:12 GMT
#49
On July 02 2014 09:06 layabout wrote:
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Vladimir can now cast summoner spells and use items while in his troll pool
We are seeing far more comments like this in the patch notes and it's really grating on my nerves.

eh why?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 02 2014 00:14 GMT
#50
On July 02 2014 08:41 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 08:32 IMoperator wrote:
nid has been bottom 3 winrate since she got changed, idk why everyone is so against these buffs it's not like she was dominating everyone


Yeah well, people need time to adapt. hotshot was doing more than alright even before the buff.
jax nerfs are hilarious though, he loses ~200 hp and 9 armor at lvl 18. RIP t.t

With 4.10 changes he was pretty good since randuins got nerfed. Woulda liked to see him played a bit more in competitive before this nerf...
liftlift > tsm
phathom321
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1730 Posts
July 02 2014 00:16 GMT
#51
All these changes just seem so random to me :< Like it's only been about 2 or 3 weeks since 4.10, let the game settle a bit before changing everything up again
"Dying in the line of duty is heroic, but dying while unemployed is just stupid." -L
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
July 02 2014 00:17 GMT
#52
On July 02 2014 09:06 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
Vladimir can now cast summoner spells and use items while in his troll pool
We are seeing far more comments like this in the patch notes and it's really grating on my nerves.


Although I somewhat understand why it would annoy some people, I think it's mostly there to give the patch notes some flavor. Pretend they don't exist, and you still get the information you want out of them. I also don't enjoy them, but it's not that big of a deal that I will worry about them continuing the trend.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 02 2014 00:20 GMT
#53
On July 02 2014 08:06 Ryuu314 wrote:
how much you guys wanna bet Riot just overbuffed Nid and they're gonna have to pull a post-rework Kassadin in a few weeks and revert all (or most) of the changes.
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On July 02 2014 08:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
LOL they actually went through with the machete change? as if feral flare wasn't gutted enough. they should seriously remove that item from the game in the state it will be in after this patch. probably the new worst noob trap item

IMO Feral Flare is an awful item that should never have been made because it completely contradicts the role of the jungler. Either it's OP (like on release) cause it's too easy to stack/scales too well so you can afford to let your team get buttfucked for 10 minutes while you afk farm OR it never gets stacked because it doesn't stack/scale well enough for you to justify afk farming.


Its not a Feral Flare problem though, its a jungle item problem. The entire Machete class never should have been made.
Freeeeeeedom
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 02 2014 00:21 GMT
#54
Kayle just got wrecked. E AP ratio reduced by 50%, ult cooldown increased by 33% at max rank and attack speed per level nerfed. Probably warranted, given that her win rate has topped 56%.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-02 00:24:37
July 02 2014 00:24 GMT
#55
On July 02 2014 09:21 GolemMadness wrote:
Kayle just got wrecked. E AP ratio reduced by 50%, ult cooldown increased by 33% at max rank and attack speed per level nerfed. Probably warranted, given that her win rate has topped 56%.


especially considering they are balancing at 2 week intervals there is no reason to nerf more than 1 of these at once.
Carrilord has arrived.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
July 02 2014 00:31 GMT
#56
wow just wow are these transformers??

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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 02 2014 00:34 GMT
#57
On July 02 2014 09:12 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 09:06 layabout wrote:
Vladimir can now cast summoner spells and use items while in his troll pool
We are seeing far more comments like this in the patch notes and it's really grating on my nerves.

eh why?

It's comes off as really fake. Calling Vlad's pool a "troll pool" is the kind of thing that member if the community might do, if they thought it was funny. It's the kind of thing one of your friends might say if they were that type of person.

Riot is not your friend. Riot's decision's have been straying from "lets design an alternative to dota" to "how do we keep people playing/ monetize the crap out of them" for a long time. So if they try to act like my friend it pisses me off because it's disingenuous and it's within the context of them telling us how they are trying to change the game to appease people rather than improve it.

It's also not funny and coming from riot makes it even less so. Be a decent person, show respect for humour.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 02 2014 00:35 GMT
#58
On July 02 2014 09:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 08:41 Djin)ftw( wrote:
On July 02 2014 08:32 IMoperator wrote:
nid has been bottom 3 winrate since she got changed, idk why everyone is so against these buffs it's not like she was dominating everyone


Yeah well, people need time to adapt. hotshot was doing more than alright even before the buff.
jax nerfs are hilarious though, he loses ~200 hp and 9 armor at lvl 18. RIP t.t

With 4.10 changes he was pretty good since randuins got nerfed. Woulda liked to see him played a bit more in competitive before this nerf...

If anything nerfing Randuin's played against him.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 02 2014 00:36 GMT
#59
On July 02 2014 09:21 GolemMadness wrote:
Kayle just got wrecked. E AP ratio reduced by 50%, ult cooldown increased by 33% at max rank and attack speed per level nerfed. Probably warranted, given that her win rate has topped 56%.

The AS nerfs, IMO, are the dumb ones. They really affect play in bad ways (AKA reduce skill) and have bad unintended consequences. AS, and range (cast times if more champs had them) are like the worst ways to balance.
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 02 2014 00:37 GMT
#60
On July 02 2014 09:35 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2014 09:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 02 2014 08:41 Djin)ftw( wrote:
On July 02 2014 08:32 IMoperator wrote:
nid has been bottom 3 winrate since she got changed, idk why everyone is so against these buffs it's not like she was dominating everyone


Yeah well, people need time to adapt. hotshot was doing more than alright even before the buff.
jax nerfs are hilarious though, he loses ~200 hp and 9 armor at lvl 18. RIP t.t

With 4.10 changes he was pretty good since randuins got nerfed. Woulda liked to see him played a bit more in competitive before this nerf...

If anything nerfing Randuin's played against him.

Nah mang, pop on the heart more frozen than your ex'es. Fool takes a step back just cuz you around.
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