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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 20:26:39
July 15 2014 20:23 GMT
#1381
so who said the 50 range wouldn't go through.

shen still bugg'd, k.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35171 Posts
July 15 2014 20:24 GMT
#1382
On July 16 2014 05:23 wei2coolman wrote:
so who said the 50 range wouldn't go through.

I thought Riot knew better. I was wrong.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 15 2014 20:25 GMT
#1383
Riot is just shuffling the champion pool. Nothing to see here.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 15 2014 20:27 GMT
#1384
On July 16 2014 05:25 Sufficiency wrote:
Riot is just shuffling the champion pool. Nothing to see here.

the funny part, was the champ pool was already shuffled so lucian was no longer top pick.
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 15 2014 20:29 GMT
#1385
He was definitrly a top pick still, because pros are used to him.

Riot decided it is time to nail the coffin.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 15 2014 20:31 GMT
#1386
On July 16 2014 05:29 Sufficiency wrote:
He was definitrly a top pick still, because pros are used to him.

Riot decided it is time to nail the coffin.

top pick, but hardly alone.
liftlift > tsm
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
July 15 2014 20:41 GMT
#1387
On July 16 2014 05:19 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 05:15 Amui wrote:
On July 16 2014 05:09 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On July 16 2014 05:04 Gahlo wrote:
Padge Nauts
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-412-notes

Inc "[Patch 4.12] RIP Lucian General Discussion"


Was just going to say something to that effect.

ADC -50 range PEACE

Dunno about that, the dash changes seem really strong.

Holy shit that essence reaver buff. Welcome back to competitive play Jayce. You now have an item to build after manamune.

probably just the usual over reaction , im sure he'll still be played

5 more ad on manamune for 100moreg is pretty sweet

-50 aa range is a really really big deal. Remember when ryze got range nerfed? And this is an ad not a tank caster
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
July 15 2014 20:43 GMT
#1388
Caitlyn vs lucian is going to be such a hilarious matchup now
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 15 2014 20:43 GMT
#1389
On July 16 2014 05:19 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 05:15 Amui wrote:
On July 16 2014 05:09 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On July 16 2014 05:04 Gahlo wrote:
Padge Nauts
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-412-notes

Inc "[Patch 4.12] RIP Lucian General Discussion"


Was just going to say something to that effect.

ADC -50 range PEACE

Dunno about that, the dash changes seem really strong.

Holy shit that essence reaver buff. Welcome back to competitive play Jayce. You now have an item to build after manamune.

probably just the usual over reaction , im sure he'll still be played

5 more ad on manamune for 100moreg is pretty sweet

Kennen literally stopped seeing play due to 25 range, and all his matchups are against melee, and his range was still 550 after nerfs.

50 range nerfs to 500, that shit is huge.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 15 2014 20:49 GMT
#1390
The only thing it "helps" for Ahri is her early laning... which was already super annoying because her Q was super cheap for what it did, and now she can just spam it at will and push you in however she wants. Sure she'll get more kill potential at 6 anyway, unless you eat a bunch of the additional Qs she'll thow around, but if it's to play the same as against release Diana who'd just Q the wave and ignore you without much AP or mp5... :/

Won't necessarily make her played more. But when she'll be played, she's gonna be annoying pre-6.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 15 2014 20:49 GMT
#1391
Just saying, but how is a humongous nerf to a popular ADC "this close to world championships" so different? Not that it matters, just you know, consistency.
Freeeeeeedom
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 15 2014 20:53 GMT
#1392
On July 16 2014 05:49 cLutZ wrote:
Just saying, but how is a humongous nerf to a popular ADC "this close to world championships" so different? Not that it matters, just you know, consistency.

Don't use logic with riot.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 15 2014 21:02 GMT
#1393
kinda sad they didn't go with the BTcap iteration, BT still looks like the least interesting adc item out there, but at least now it has some definitive times to buy it. Graves and MF still weep though.
Carrilord has arrived.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 15 2014 21:03 GMT
#1394
OK I have to say though. This new Lucian may be even more broken.

An 2x auto after a spell reduces his E cooldown by 4 seconds. With some CDR he will be Eing indefinitely.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 21:08:46
July 15 2014 21:07 GMT
#1395
Patch Notes are up.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/18986

E - Vault

LOOK VAL, SNACKS Now always causes Valor to immediately mark the target, even if Valor is in the process of marking another nearby enemy
PROPER FORM Fixed a bug where Quinn would sometimes propel herself in the wrong direction


Best part of the patch.

EDIT: Hehe I'm way late to the party.
Hagen0
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany765 Posts
July 15 2014 21:09 GMT
#1396
Reading these threads I always get the impression that LoL champion balance is incredibly fickle. Minor nerfs seem to render powerful champions unplayable and slight itemization changes make previously rarely used champions into first picks. Is my impression wrong?
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
July 15 2014 21:13 GMT
#1397
The Lucian range nerf will wreck him, even if E can potentially be up almost constantly if he gets 40% CDR. I thought people tried to find a "blue build Lucian" when he was released and it just wasn't as strong as BT > Triforce > LW (at that time). Maybe after the ADC item changes and changes to Manamune, it can be worth it?

Also, the changes to the items they introduced is not enough, the BTcap would've made people want to buy the BT again. Though the overall buff to Manamune might mean Jayce comes back to competitive play.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 15 2014 21:13 GMT
#1398
Lucian 500range LoL
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 15 2014 21:15 GMT
#1399
On July 16 2014 06:09 Hagen0 wrote:
Reading these threads I always get the impression that LoL champion balance is incredibly fickle. Minor nerfs seem to render powerful champions unplayable and slight itemization changes make previously rarely used champions into first picks. Is my impression wrong?

People over react, the league community is especially bad for it.

-2 damage could kill a champion permanently in their eyes.
Always wait till a while after patch notes and see what the pros/koreans are doing before making any sort of "hurr this champion is dead" call
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-15 21:25:50
July 15 2014 21:18 GMT
#1400
On July 16 2014 06:09 Hagen0 wrote:
Reading these threads I always get the impression that LoL champion balance is incredibly fickle. Minor nerfs seem to render powerful champions unplayable and slight itemization changes make previously rarely used champions into first picks. Is my impression wrong?


50 range auto attack nerf on a champion played in a role dependant on auto attacks doesn't even approach the word Minor.

not sure what the 2nd part is about, mabye the guy that said the essence reaver is good for Jayce, don't think it matters much personally his biggest problem that I see is his cds in ranged form are horrendous which reaver does not fix.

or perhaps about what I said about Graves and MF, neither were really played much before the BT nerf, but BT was definitively their best rush item because their skills had high ad ratios, this rebuff does nothing to address the issue that there isn't a great "I want a shitload of AD for spells" item, but it's a decent buff.
Carrilord has arrived.
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