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On June 26 2014 07:52 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 07:43 zer0das wrote:
They're really not. More realistically the silver is probably like diamond 3 and is just on his smurf.
Then there is the scummy, dodging your placements to stay at a rating. if you are a diamond 1 player who has an account locked at silver 5 you can carry a bronze 5 friend from b5 to G5.
They actually implemented some sort of feature to avoid this, if you're that much better than your current tier you can be advanced without a promo. It's how Zdra got out of Bronze.
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On June 26 2014 08:15 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 03:56 PrinceXizor wrote:On June 26 2014 03:51 Goumindong wrote:2 Years work experience and a Bachelors for 40-50k(lets be less than generous and suggest that the value of the rent is only 500 dollars/month)? Not too bad. 40k annually for doing the entirety of CLGs actual functional backend. all of the finances all of communication with legal teams and store personel. and then being expected to help with promo stuff and managing the team in addition to that. is a lot of work. that's not much. people with that much responsibility are executives in other companies. It is going to be hard to find someone willing to take the job unless they really, really love eSports. Sounds approximately as much as my work load at my internship (pays about the same amount too).
you haven an internship that pays 40k a year? damn...
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On June 26 2014 08:17 Nemireck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 07:52 PrinceXizor wrote:On June 26 2014 07:43 zer0das wrote:
They're really not. More realistically the silver is probably like diamond 3 and is just on his smurf.
Then there is the scummy, dodging your placements to stay at a rating. if you are a diamond 1 player who has an account locked at silver 5 you can carry a bronze 5 friend from b5 to G5. They actually implemented some sort of feature to avoid this, if you're that much better than your current tier you can be advanced without a promo. It's how Zdra got out of Bronze.
good. that kind of stuff is silly. and a demonstration of how odd the ranking system is that it doesn't matter but matters.
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On June 26 2014 08:17 Nemireck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 07:52 PrinceXizor wrote:On June 26 2014 07:43 zer0das wrote:
They're really not. More realistically the silver is probably like diamond 3 and is just on his smurf.
Then there is the scummy, dodging your placements to stay at a rating. if you are a diamond 1 player who has an account locked at silver 5 you can carry a bronze 5 friend from b5 to G5. They actually implemented some sort of feature to avoid this, if you're that much better than your current tier you can be advanced without a promo. It's how Zdra got out of Bronze.
Yeah sadly I can't continue my bronze crusade anymore. I'll miss being in the best division ever. *sniff*
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On June 26 2014 08:19 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 08:15 ticklishmusic wrote:On June 26 2014 03:56 PrinceXizor wrote:On June 26 2014 03:51 Goumindong wrote:2 Years work experience and a Bachelors for 40-50k(lets be less than generous and suggest that the value of the rent is only 500 dollars/month)? Not too bad. 40k annually for doing the entirety of CLGs actual functional backend. all of the finances all of communication with legal teams and store personel. and then being expected to help with promo stuff and managing the team in addition to that. is a lot of work. that's not much. people with that much responsibility are executives in other companies. It is going to be hard to find someone willing to take the job unless they really, really love eSports. Sounds approximately as much as my work load at my internship (pays about the same amount too). you haven an internship that pays 40k a year? damn...
I'm paid $18 an hour, which works out to 37K annually, but 30K take home after taxes and other fees. I'm paid for 40 hrs/wk, but I end up working quite a bit more than that-- I was in the office until 11pm yesterday, and I'm working from home right now.
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On June 26 2014 08:26 ticklishmusic wrote:
I'm paid $18 an hour, which works out to 37K annually, but 30K take home after taxes and other fees. I'm paid for 40 hrs/wk, but I end up working quite a bit more than that-- I was in the office until 11pm yesterday, and I'm working from home right now.
shit im jealous. i work for 8/hour trying to get the last 2 semesters of college paid for so i can get a 12/hour job in a museum.
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Riot releasing some information about Season 4 Worlds.
Most important part though.
...our brand new event format that now includes a sixteen team group stage arranged from our global leagues. Three top teams from NA, EU, Korea, and China will join two teams from Taiwan and SEA and two wild card winners to fight on the global battlefield. The teams will be placed into four groups and battle it out in the group stages before the top two teams from each group move on to the quarter-finals.
Edit:
Also, entire bracket stage confirmed to be BO5
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On June 26 2014 08:32 onlywonderboy wrote:Riot releasing some information about Season 4 Worlds.Most important part though. Show nested quote +...our brand new event format that now includes a sixteen team group stage arranged from our global leagues. Three top teams from NA, EU, Korea, and China will join two teams from Taiwan and SEA and two wild card winners to fight on the global battlefield. The teams will be placed into four groups and battle it out in the group stages before the top two teams from each group move on to the quarter-finals.
Incoming all eastern semifinal.
I'd expect both wildcard to be epic feeders as usual though.
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On June 26 2014 08:35 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 08:32 onlywonderboy wrote:Riot releasing some information about Season 4 Worlds.Most important part though. ...our brand new event format that now includes a sixteen team group stage arranged from our global leagues. Three top teams from NA, EU, Korea, and China will join two teams from Taiwan and SEA and two wild card winners to fight on the global battlefield. The teams will be placed into four groups and battle it out in the group stages before the top two teams from each group move on to the quarter-finals. Incoming all eastern semifinal. I'd expect both wildcard to be epic feeders as usual though.
put a brazillian team and 4 NA teams and 3 EU teams in two groups, and guarantee a western team in the semis for the viewers + western hype. i want to think groups will be random with top 4 teams seeded into different groups. but. who knows.
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On June 26 2014 08:28 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 08:26 ticklishmusic wrote:
I'm paid $18 an hour, which works out to 37K annually, but 30K take home after taxes and other fees. I'm paid for 40 hrs/wk, but I end up working quite a bit more than that-- I was in the office until 11pm yesterday, and I'm working from home right now. shit im jealous. i work for 8/hour trying to get the last 2 semesters of college paid for so i can get a 12/hour job in a museum.
Join the dark side, business jobs pay well. Nah I kid, do what you love, but avoid STD's.
I'm doing some valuation for a company, my contact there (he's an exec and pulls almost 200K a year and has a team of accountants) is arguably doing worse work than I am as a solo intern. It kind of hurts. But basically that illustrates how doing finance/operations for an organization generally pays pretty well.
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On June 26 2014 08:38 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 08:35 Amui wrote:On June 26 2014 08:32 onlywonderboy wrote:Riot releasing some information about Season 4 Worlds.Most important part though. ...our brand new event format that now includes a sixteen team group stage arranged from our global leagues. Three top teams from NA, EU, Korea, and China will join two teams from Taiwan and SEA and two wild card winners to fight on the global battlefield. The teams will be placed into four groups and battle it out in the group stages before the top two teams from each group move on to the quarter-finals. Incoming all eastern semifinal. I'd expect both wildcard to be epic feeders as usual though. put a brazillian team and 4 NA teams and 3 EU teams in two groups, and guarantee a western team in the semis for the viewers + western hype. i want to think groups will be random with top 4 teams seeded into different groups. but. who knows.
Yeah, the way they decide groups could break the whole thing, but on paper this format already seems way better than last year. No byes at least.
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On June 26 2014 08:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
Join the dark side, business jobs pay well. Nah I kid, do what you love, but avoid STD's.
I'm doing some valuation for a company, my contact there (he's an exec and pulls almost 200K a year and has a team of accountants) is arguably doing worse work than I am as a solo intern. It kind of hurts. But basically that illustrates how doing finance/operations for an organization generally pays pretty well.
Im studying cultural anthropology because its interesting and i like learning about it. doesn't give many options for high paying jobs unless you get a masters or above though. My passion is writing and you don't need a degree to get jobs in that field anyway, but its worse than a struggle to get paid trying to break in the field. Maybe i'll get a drone data entry job to help pay for college instead of baking goods in a bakery.
Still for everything they are asking from a CLG employee they deserves a bit more at least.
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On June 26 2014 08:43 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 08:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
Join the dark side, business jobs pay well. Nah I kid, do what you love, but avoid STD's.
I'm doing some valuation for a company, my contact there (he's an exec and pulls almost 200K a year and has a team of accountants) is arguably doing worse work than I am as a solo intern. It kind of hurts. But basically that illustrates how doing finance/operations for an organization generally pays pretty well. Im studying cultural anthropology because its interesting and i like learning about it. doesn't give many options for high paying jobs unless you get a masters or above though. My passion is writing and you don't need a degree to get jobs in that field anyway, but its worse than a struggle to get paid trying to break in the field. Maybe i'll get a drone data entry job to help pay for college instead of baking goods in a bakery. Still for everything they are asking from a CLG employee they deserves a bit more at least.
The story behind how I chose my majors/ career is kind of long, but I'm dual-majoring in Biology and Business with a minor in something public health-y. I love writing and reading as well, but I figure the priority for college is to try and set myself up for steady income.
Honestly with the exception of hardcore finance or accounting, you can probably find a business job that pays pretty well. What really matters is that you know how to present yourself and your experiences in an interview, and that you network.
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It's not about what you know. It's about who you know.
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On June 26 2014 09:50 Shelke14 wrote:
It's not about what you know. It's about who you know.
It's what you're worth, which fluctuates based on what you know, who you know, what you can do, what you've done, how you market yourself, etc.
Two identical people could be worth vastly different amounts based on circumstantial factors. Knowing people only helps if they know you're worth something.
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On June 26 2014 07:15 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 06:56 nafta wrote:On June 26 2014 06:54 JimmiC wrote:On June 26 2014 06:47 Nemireck wrote:On June 26 2014 06:16 TheYango wrote:On June 26 2014 06:07 JimmiC wrote:
Most of the complaining about duos is the same as the complaining about everything. People seam to forget that the same thing happens on the other team too, and they also forget all the duos that do well.
Duo blaming is just another unfounded excuse to why a persons elo is lower then they think it should be without having to consider their own play and decisions as the reason. There was a similar discussion with regard to wide MMR variance in stacks in DotA, and honestly, the biggest argument against stacks with a wide rating difference isn't how they affect winrate--but how they affect game quality. Regardless of whether or not they make you win or lose, having one player that's far above everyone else's level and one that's far below has a higher likelihood of creating stompy games--either because the player who is way better does exceptionally well, or because the player who is way worse does exceptionally poorly. It doesn't matter if it happens to both sides--having games be really stompy because one player carries really hard or because one player feeds sucks regardless of the outcome. Having the duo on the enemy team is just as bad as having it on your team because a bad, stompy game is a bad, stompy game regardless of which team won. It's just not fun to be in a game like that, even if you're the winner. Exactly. It's not about winning or losing because of Duos. The games are just toxic shitfests. I think the toxicity has nothing to do with the duo. It's more to do with he attitudes of the people in the game. I do think that when people lolnexus or whatever and see a duo they often let these preconceived notions effect the way they play and there attitudes. I'm played lots of games where the duos are fine, medium and normal. In fact way more then the other way. And I'm sure if you did some real statistical analysis you would find the same. Real problem with duo is it exists.It really shouldn't.Also you should have the option to not have duos in your games.It is pretty retarded that the only way for me to not have duos on my team is to duo myself. The option to not allow duos would be fine, but in reality people like to play ranked with there buddies and can't always get 5 together for a ranked team. If your diamond 1 and your getting some crazy situations keeping you from challenger I get the frustration. If your gold 4 and you think duo's are messing up your games, you need to look into the mirror and figure out what you can control instead of blaming outside influences that you can't. Not to mention it's a game, for fun, enjoy it. And you are in control of your own enjoyment, so don't blame others if you're not having a good time.
Well actually these others do ruin my enjoyment.I am a supp/ad player.So I would rather play those 2.So when you consider the fact that most duos are duo bots and I can't get to play what I want and I watch them either 2v8 or play for enemy team that ruins my enjoyment.Generally I don't mind if I am lower pick to just go somewhere else but when some random people who just clicked invite before play start telling me that I should let them bot and if I don't the endless whine is just too much.
Like literally the only reason I have started playing mostly duoq myself is so I don't have to deal with one on my team which is pretty ridiculous.
Don't see how is my division relevant at all.
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roffles didn't write it though.
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On June 26 2014 10:24 PrinceXizor wrote:roffles didn't write it though.
Can't write in hell.
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