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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.
Enough is enough. Let's move along now.
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On June 04 2014 22:24 Sufficiency wrote: Shouldn't Singed be coming back since he counters Jax? He really doesn't counter jax that much, particularly with tp on both. The hilarious singed strat I want to see tried is deep proxying behind the opposing duo lane at like lvl 2. I don't know if it would work, but I would cheer.
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On June 04 2014 22:41 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2014 22:24 Sufficiency wrote: Shouldn't Singed be coming back since he counters Jax? He really doesn't counter jax that much, particularly with tp on both. The hilarious singed strat I want to see tried is deep proxying behind the opposing duo lane at like lvl 2. I don't know if it would work, but I would cheer.
Actually I been thinking of a ridiculious funny strat that requires a specific team comp and a good team. Take Cait/Nami/Nidalee/Elise and for Toplane take Singed/Aatrox/Lee. Gank top and snowball. Then your toplane goes the enemy base to proxy 3 lanes at once. Meanwhile your team is sieging towers or taking drake. If enemy team responds with more than one people just suicide into fountain.
Thoughts guys??
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On June 04 2014 22:30 Capped wrote: How big does a max stacks cho gath get when lulu ults him? :O
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On June 04 2014 22:41 ParadeofMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2014 22:24 Sufficiency wrote: Shouldn't Singed be coming back since he counters Jax? He does but only in soloq. In competitive though a lane swap makes Singed complete shit
This is exactly it. Even if you watch the few solo queue singed specialists like sirchez or druidroid they admit that lane swaps basically make singed one of the worst champs in the game even though he has basically no real weaknesses 1v1.
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So, and I've been giving this some thought now, wouldn't it be stronger to just (if you're going ahead with a 4-0 push in competitive play) stack 4 outside their base, proxy farm the first 2 waves (middle and bot/top) then take away their jungle (buffs should spawn when both waves are kills with 4 man stacked) and then just kill the second wave in between inners and outers? Meanwhile adc still farms solo because he NEEDS to get stronk.
I do like the new top/jungle/support roaming strat that is out though, makes it much more dynamic, I do wonder howlong it is going to take before some tops start buying a jungle item at start (like jatt or kobe suggested), might not give them that big a disadvantage in the end.. or what about dubble smite, I mean it's one less combat summoner, but it's a lot more invested in shutting down a champion in its entirety.
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On June 04 2014 23:38 Uldridge wrote: So, and I've been giving this some thought now, wouldn't it be stronger to just (if you're going ahead with a 4-0 push in competitive play) stack 4 outside their base, proxy farm the first 2 waves (middle and bot/top) then take away their jungle (buffs should spawn when both waves are kills with 4 man stacked) and then just kill the second wave in between inners and outers? Meanwhile adc still farms solo because he NEEDS to get stronk.
I do like the new top/jungle/support roaming strat that is out though, makes it much more dynamic, I do wonder howlong it is going to take before some tops start buying a jungle item at start (like jatt or kobe suggested), might not give them that big a disadvantage in the end.. or what about dubble smite, I mean it's one less combat summoner, but it's a lot more invested in shutting down a champion in its entirety. Being down TP would be horrible.
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Also what if other team calls your swap and mirrors it?Then you get even more fucked cause you have a machete of all items.
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I think singed is shit right now they really should revert the tenacity nerf to his ult and reduce the mana cost of fling at lvl 1/2. Adc's and mids just have to much mobility and since tp is needed no more lvl 2 singed all in cheese because no ignite.
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I don't think starting with a machete would be any good. 2 machetes vs. 1 machete and 1 d blade doesn't seem like it would make a huge difference in clear speed. Even if it did i don't think you could do anything with the extra time that would be as impactful as having a doran's blade once you went to lane.
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On June 04 2014 23:54 IamPryda wrote: I think singed is shit right now they really should revert the tenacity nerf to his ult and reduce the mana cost of fling at lvl 1/2. Adc's and mids just have to much mobility and since tp is needed no more lvl 2 singed all in cheese because no ignite. No. He's a terribly unfun character to play against if you give him friggin tenacity + tons of CC + speed. He's fine were he is, and by that I mean in the gutter.
Seriously, fuck Singed. And Rumble.
(And he's not that weak : http://www.lolking.net/champions/singed®ion=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics )
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Tenacity is a bad mechanic, we have seen that with zac and singed, and irelia in the past. That said, I like singed, and imo they should buff the range on his goo.
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I think Riot has a thing against Tenacity too, since the majority of CC on new champions is knockups.
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On June 05 2014 00:20 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2014 23:54 IamPryda wrote: I think singed is shit right now they really should revert the tenacity nerf to his ult and reduce the mana cost of fling at lvl 1/2. Adc's and mids just have to much mobility and since tp is needed no more lvl 2 singed all in cheese because no ignite. No. He's a terribly unfun character to play against if you give him friggin tenacity + tons of CC + speed. He's fine were he is, and by that I mean in the gutter. Seriously, fuck Singed. And Rumble. (And he's not that weak : http://www.lolking.net/champions/singed®ion=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics ) Aren't you a Riven player or something like that?
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On June 05 2014 00:20 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2014 23:54 IamPryda wrote: I think singed is shit right now they really should revert the tenacity nerf to his ult and reduce the mana cost of fling at lvl 1/2. Adc's and mids just have to much mobility and since tp is needed no more lvl 2 singed all in cheese because no ignite. No. He's a terribly unfun character to play against if you give him friggin tenacity + tons of CC + speed. He's fine were he is, and by that I mean in the gutter. Seriously, fuck Singed. And Rumble. (And he's not that weak : http://www.lolking.net/champions/singed®ion=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics )
His pickrate is pretty low though, so I suppose the okay winrate is a result of people picking him who understand how he works and all that jazz. His pickrate in diamond and challenger is less that 2%. On the other hand, the sample size makes for some funny things like a 100% winrate on 5/26
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Pentakill's last song in the album is actually Classical Music, not Metal >.<.
I can't stand the rest of them, but that last one (Orb of Winter) is actually pretty good and good background music.
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TIME TO PUT EM ALL IN MY BOOK
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On June 04 2014 15:53 739 wrote: I mean, them World Cup skins are pretty meh to me at least, nothing special at all :\ Winter skins are the best ones, and I've had a break with LoL when they appeared and I regret that I don't own at least 2 of them.
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/node/16850
Two winter event skins, offer still good for a few more hours.
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On June 04 2014 23:54 IamPryda wrote: I think singed is shit right now they really should revert the tenacity nerf to his ult and reduce the mana cost of fling at lvl 1/2. Adc's and mids just have to much mobility and since tp is needed no more lvl 2 singed all in cheese because no ignite. Tenacity is a really powerful stat to give to champions. Virtually every single champion that had built-in tenacity has been broken/op at some point in time since it makes playing against them so much harder.
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