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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.

Enough is enough. Let's move along now.

-NeoIllusions
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 04 2014 13:41 GMT
#141
On June 04 2014 22:24 Sufficiency wrote:
Shouldn't Singed be coming back since he counters Jax?

He really doesn't counter jax that much, particularly with tp on both. The hilarious singed strat I want to see tried is deep proxying behind the opposing duo lane at like lvl 2. I don't know if it would work, but I would cheer.
Freeeeeeedom
ParadeofMadness
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom1027 Posts
June 04 2014 13:46 GMT
#142
On June 04 2014 22:41 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 22:24 Sufficiency wrote:
Shouldn't Singed be coming back since he counters Jax?

He really doesn't counter jax that much, particularly with tp on both. The hilarious singed strat I want to see tried is deep proxying behind the opposing duo lane at like lvl 2. I don't know if it would work, but I would cheer.


Actually I been thinking of a ridiculious funny strat that requires a specific team comp and a good team. Take Cait/Nami/Nidalee/Elise and for Toplane take Singed/Aatrox/Lee.
Gank top and snowball. Then your toplane goes the enemy base to proxy 3 lanes at once. Meanwhile your team is sieging towers or taking drake. If enemy team responds with more than one people just suicide into fountain.

Thoughts guys??
See Noob, Flame Noob. Top Lane main. 120ping master race Aspire to be one man rape train : choo-choo- yamedie~ mothafucka
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
June 04 2014 13:56 GMT
#143
On June 04 2014 22:30 Capped wrote:
How big does a max stacks cho gath get when lulu ults him? :O


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WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
June 04 2014 14:29 GMT
#144
On June 04 2014 22:41 ParadeofMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 22:24 Sufficiency wrote:
Shouldn't Singed be coming back since he counters Jax?


He does but only in soloq. In competitive though a lane swap makes Singed complete shit


This is exactly it. Even if you watch the few solo queue singed specialists like sirchez or druidroid they admit that lane swaps basically make singed one of the worst champs in the game even though he has basically no real weaknesses 1v1.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4832 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 14:39:22
June 04 2014 14:38 GMT
#145
So, and I've been giving this some thought now, wouldn't it be stronger to just (if you're going ahead with a 4-0 push in competitive play) stack 4 outside their base, proxy farm the first 2 waves (middle and bot/top) then take away their jungle (buffs should spawn when both waves are kills with 4 man stacked) and then just kill the second wave in between inners and outers? Meanwhile adc still farms solo because he NEEDS to get stronk.

I do like the new top/jungle/support roaming strat that is out though, makes it much more dynamic, I do wonder howlong it is going to take before some tops start buying a jungle item at start (like jatt or kobe suggested), might not give them that big a disadvantage in the end.. or what about dubble smite, I mean it's one less combat summoner, but it's a lot more invested in shutting down a champion in its entirety.
Taxes are for Terrans
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35158 Posts
June 04 2014 14:41 GMT
#146
On June 04 2014 23:38 Uldridge wrote:
So, and I've been giving this some thought now, wouldn't it be stronger to just (if you're going ahead with a 4-0 push in competitive play) stack 4 outside their base, proxy farm the first 2 waves (middle and bot/top) then take away their jungle (buffs should spawn when both waves are kills with 4 man stacked) and then just kill the second wave in between inners and outers? Meanwhile adc still farms solo because he NEEDS to get stronk.

I do like the new top/jungle/support roaming strat that is out though, makes it much more dynamic, I do wonder howlong it is going to take before some tops start buying a jungle item at start (like jatt or kobe suggested), might not give them that big a disadvantage in the end.. or what about dubble smite, I mean it's one less combat summoner, but it's a lot more invested in shutting down a champion in its entirety.

Being down TP would be horrible.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 04 2014 14:43 GMT
#147
Also what if other team calls your swap and mirrors it?Then you get even more fucked cause you have a machete of all items.
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
June 04 2014 14:54 GMT
#148
I think singed is shit right now they really should revert the tenacity nerf to his ult and reduce the mana cost of fling at lvl 1/2. Adc's and mids just have to much mobility and since tp is needed no more lvl 2 singed all in cheese because no ignite.
Moar banelings less qq
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
June 04 2014 15:17 GMT
#149
I don't think starting with a machete would be any good. 2 machetes vs. 1 machete and 1 d blade doesn't seem like it would make a huge difference in clear speed. Even if it did i don't think you could do anything with the extra time that would be as impactful as having a doran's blade once you went to lane.
KwanROLLLLLLLED
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 15:22:49
June 04 2014 15:20 GMT
#150
On June 04 2014 23:54 IamPryda wrote:
I think singed is shit right now they really should revert the tenacity nerf to his ult and reduce the mana cost of fling at lvl 1/2. Adc's and mids just have to much mobility and since tp is needed no more lvl 2 singed all in cheese because no ignite.

No. He's a terribly unfun character to play against if you give him friggin tenacity + tons of CC + speed. He's fine were he is, and by that I mean in the gutter.

Seriously, fuck Singed. And Rumble.

(And he's not that weak : http://www.lolking.net/champions/singed&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics )
The legend of Darien lives on
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 04 2014 15:31 GMT
#151
Tenacity is a bad mechanic, we have seen that with zac and singed, and irelia in the past. That said, I like singed, and imo they should buff the range on his goo.
Freeeeeeedom
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
June 04 2014 15:32 GMT
#152
I think Riot has a thing against Tenacity too, since the majority of CC on new champions is knockups.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 04 2014 15:36 GMT
#153
On June 05 2014 00:20 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 23:54 IamPryda wrote:
I think singed is shit right now they really should revert the tenacity nerf to his ult and reduce the mana cost of fling at lvl 1/2. Adc's and mids just have to much mobility and since tp is needed no more lvl 2 singed all in cheese because no ignite.

No. He's a terribly unfun character to play against if you give him friggin tenacity + tons of CC + speed. He's fine were he is, and by that I mean in the gutter.

Seriously, fuck Singed. And Rumble.

(And he's not that weak : http://www.lolking.net/champions/singed&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics )

Aren't you a Riven player or something like that?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 04 2014 15:53 GMT
#154
Riven >>>>>>>> Rumble?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 04 2014 16:06 GMT
#155
On June 05 2014 00:20 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 23:54 IamPryda wrote:
I think singed is shit right now they really should revert the tenacity nerf to his ult and reduce the mana cost of fling at lvl 1/2. Adc's and mids just have to much mobility and since tp is needed no more lvl 2 singed all in cheese because no ignite.

No. He's a terribly unfun character to play against if you give him friggin tenacity + tons of CC + speed. He's fine were he is, and by that I mean in the gutter.

Seriously, fuck Singed. And Rumble.

(And he's not that weak : http://www.lolking.net/champions/singed&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics )


His pickrate is pretty low though, so I suppose the okay winrate is a result of people picking him who understand how he works and all that jazz. His pickrate in diamond and challenger is less that 2%. On the other hand, the sample size makes for some funny things like a 100% winrate on 5/26
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
June 04 2014 16:21 GMT
#156
Pentakill's last song in the album is actually Classical Music, not Metal >.<.

I can't stand the rest of them, but that last one (Orb of Winter) is actually pretty good and good background music.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 04 2014 16:23 GMT
#157
TIME TO PUT EM ALL IN MY BOOK
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 04 2014 16:27 GMT
#158
Teutonica told me about one of VayneAuthority's posts yesterday on stream, I thought I should make a highlight of my reaction


User was warned for this post
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
June 04 2014 16:27 GMT
#159
On June 04 2014 15:53 739 wrote:
I mean, them World Cup skins are pretty meh to me at least, nothing special at all :\ Winter skins are the best ones, and I've had a break with LoL when they appeared and I regret that I don't own at least 2 of them.


http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/node/16850

Two winter event skins, offer still good for a few more hours.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 04 2014 16:31 GMT
#160
On June 04 2014 23:54 IamPryda wrote:
I think singed is shit right now they really should revert the tenacity nerf to his ult and reduce the mana cost of fling at lvl 1/2. Adc's and mids just have to much mobility and since tp is needed no more lvl 2 singed all in cheese because no ignite.

Tenacity is a really powerful stat to give to champions. Virtually every single champion that had built-in tenacity has been broken/op at some point in time since it makes playing against them so much harder.
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