EPTOn June 04 2014 11:27 Slusher wrote:
first glance, seems too good.
first glance, seems too good.
He lost a huge chunk of his damage and his old passive only works on his Q now. I am not convinced that his new passive is ground breaking.
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Sufficiency
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He lost a huge chunk of his damage and his old passive only works on his Q now. I am not convinced that his new passive is ground breaking. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + lissandra support is really bad | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On June 04 2014 11:37 Sufficiency wrote: He lost a huge chunk of his damage and his old passive only works on his Q now. I am not convinced that his new passive is ground breaking. you can combo E into a stun, or if you have flash ult you should be able to combo it into chain cc, he suffers from Rammus syndrome, (wants to max everything) idk, giving him a stun in addition to his ult just seems really really powerful even if he contributes little damage | ||
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iremnant3847
Taiwan269 Posts
On June 04 2014 11:37 Slusher wrote: sounds like my "don't you n00bs read lolcounter.com???" secret jinx counter pick, Teemo support. What does that even mean? Someone just wanted a few fun supports and I was suggesting some. | ||
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iremnant3847
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On June 04 2014 11:43 Slusher wrote: thats what I play for fun in normals. is that too far for you? No but I don't understand your hostility. Is there something I did? | ||
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sob3k
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maokai is actually pretty dangerous support in some matchups great base damages Powerful slow and directional knockback on 6s! cd One of the best gap closer lockdowns in the game Brush scouting saplings with highest base damage of any non-dot spell in game and 1.0 ap always useful 20% AOE damage reduction field that can also do stupid AOE base damage passive that gives % health lane sustain on every nearby spell use, synergy with relic shield | ||
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 Warding Totems will now use your selected Ward Skin! You can now proudly display your ward skin in game, even if you primarily rely on yellow trinkets to contribute to team vision (but you should totally be buying green and pink wards to help your poor support) The only one, good change I like in this patch, damn. Kha'zix nerfs too hard I guess. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On June 04 2014 11:42 Slusher wrote: you can combo E into a stun, or if you have flash ult you should be able to combo it into chain cc, he suffers from Rammus syndrome, (wants to max everything) idk, giving him a stun in addition to his ult just seems really really powerful even if he contributes little damage It's pretty hard to E into a stun, because to do that you need to E first (slows), then Q the target twice, and THEN you need to auto him. Also his E range isn't too good to begin with. | ||
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iremnant3847
Taiwan269 Posts
On June 04 2014 11:46 Slusher wrote: none intended, I think we started off on a misunderstanding because you mentioned Gragas and Velkoz, who are legit supports in the same paragraph as Liss so I didn't understand you meant clowny game stuff, I was just trying to relate with the Teemo thing understood, sorry for misunderstanding | ||
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Slusher
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On June 04 2014 12:01 Sufficiency wrote: It's pretty hard to E into a stun, because to do that you need to E first (slows), then Q the target twice, and THEN you need to auto him. Also his E range isn't too good to begin with. Yea I read that wrong, I was thinking E > Q > Q would stun. OH and ult puts his passive on cd ok, yea this isn't amazing | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On June 04 2014 12:05 Slusher wrote: Yea I read that wrong, I was thinking E > Q > Q would stun. OH and ult puts his passive on cd ok, yea this isn't amazing I don't think ult puts his passive on CD, but if it does what I think it does, it'll force you to choose between stunning and ulting for bonus damage. In almost all cases, that .5/.75/1sec stun will cause the person to take much, much more than the ult bonus. Also, they shifted WAY too much of his damage out of Q. 5 per level physical, and 2+2 perlevel magic off his Q. His passive in no way shape or form will make up for that. + Show Spoiler + Skar is up on PBE with a few gameplay and art changes. We're increasing Skarner's power with more CC and stickiness without creating the old gameplay problems. Additionally, he will be able to consistently bring value to his team, even when behind. He also has upgraded character textures and some new particles for his passive and W. Also I don't quite get their reasoning. Old skarner simply punished people really fucking hard for overextending without wards. Vi does the same exact same thing, with more damage. How is skarner going to provide value for his team when the CD buffs to W/E don't even make up for the passive change. At 40%CDR, that "buff" is worth less than 2 autos in 8 secs on champs. I know skarner can get kited, but that's just ridiculous. Even best cases scenario with zero CDR, I'd be really surprised if you couldn't get 3 autos in 16 seconds of a fight if you lived that long, or 2 in 14. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On June 04 2014 12:05 Slusher wrote: Yea I read that wrong, I was thinking E > Q > Q would stun. OH and ult puts his passive on cd ok, yea this isn't amazing Not 100% sure how his ult interacts with his passive stun. If R resets the stacks to 0 that would be hilariously bad. I am going to assume, on good faith, that Riot is not that stupid. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35117 Posts
Oh right, diversifying champ pool... right. | ||
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Canada2041 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35117 Posts
On June 04 2014 12:54 Sunaj wrote: Can you decay out of leagues? Like from Gold to Silver? Yes. | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
On June 04 2014 12:20 Sufficiency wrote: Not 100% sure how his ult interacts with his passive stun. If R resets the stacks to 0 that would be hilariously bad. I am going to assume, on good faith, that Riot is not that stupid. of course it resets it to 0, the whole point of the ult consuming stacks is so that you can't stun when your ult finishes. | ||
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