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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.

Enough is enough. Let's move along now.

-NeoIllusions
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 00:16:37
June 04 2014 00:16 GMT
#41
On June 04 2014 09:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 08:59 Fusilero wrote:
On June 04 2014 08:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 04 2014 08:55 Fusilero wrote:
On June 04 2014 08:34 wei2coolman wrote:
Not sure what riot wants to do with khaziks with these changes.

Utility jungle kha'zix, kha will soon go the way of elise you just wait.

I don't particularly care too much about changes. Personally I like the changes because I've always liked W max build a bit more. Just curious what Riot's vision for khaziks are.

Oh riot's vision with kha'zix is pretty simple "oh jesus why won't this champion ever be balanced"

W max khaziks will be pretty good imo. The increased monster damage will make his waveclear insanely strong. Could end up being decent pick for poke comp. Aoe 50% slow is nothing to scoff at.


That's a jungle only change. Monsters =|= minions. However, I still think khazix might find a niche with the new 50% slow on W.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 00:16:33
June 04 2014 00:16 GMT
#42
well the Khazix nerfs are absolutely brutal guess there's only 3 top level junglers now. wonder if any team is going to ban 2 and draft the third as a draft strategy
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
June 04 2014 00:16 GMT
#43
On June 04 2014 07:37 AsnSensation wrote:
maybe this patch might finally unleash rengar on the pro scene again, can't remember the last time he wasn't banned.

Well he went from 100% picked/banned to disabled for months to nerf to never played again.
I wonder we'll ever see Shen anymore as well, dunno if he's still disabled. He was good against Renek but since everyone gets TP now, I'm not really sure pros would pick him.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 00:17:44
June 04 2014 00:17 GMT
#44
On June 04 2014 09:16 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:37 AsnSensation wrote:
maybe this patch might finally unleash rengar on the pro scene again, can't remember the last time he wasn't banned.

Well he went from 100% picked/banned to disabled for months to nerf to never played again.
I wonder we'll ever see Shen anymore as well, dunno if he's still disabled. He was good against Renek but since everyone gets TP now, I'm not really sure pros would pick him.


run teleport shen. teles for days.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 04 2014 00:17 GMT
#45
On June 04 2014 09:16 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 09:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 04 2014 08:59 Fusilero wrote:
On June 04 2014 08:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 04 2014 08:55 Fusilero wrote:
On June 04 2014 08:34 wei2coolman wrote:
Not sure what riot wants to do with khaziks with these changes.

Utility jungle kha'zix, kha will soon go the way of elise you just wait.

I don't particularly care too much about changes. Personally I like the changes because I've always liked W max build a bit more. Just curious what Riot's vision for khaziks are.

Oh riot's vision with kha'zix is pretty simple "oh jesus why won't this champion ever be balanced"

W max khaziks will be pretty good imo. The increased monster damage will make his waveclear insanely strong. Could end up being decent pick for poke comp. Aoe 50% slow is nothing to scoff at.


That's a jungle only change. Monsters =|= minions. However, I still think khazix might find a niche with the new 50% slow on W.


Oh wtf. Lameeee.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
June 04 2014 00:19 GMT
#46
This just in: Lee, Eve, and Elise are playing rock paper scissors to decide who gets hit with the nerf bat next.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
June 04 2014 00:20 GMT
#47
On June 04 2014 09:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 09:16 zodde wrote:
On June 04 2014 09:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 04 2014 08:59 Fusilero wrote:
On June 04 2014 08:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 04 2014 08:55 Fusilero wrote:
On June 04 2014 08:34 wei2coolman wrote:
Not sure what riot wants to do with khaziks with these changes.

Utility jungle kha'zix, kha will soon go the way of elise you just wait.

I don't particularly care too much about changes. Personally I like the changes because I've always liked W max build a bit more. Just curious what Riot's vision for khaziks are.

Oh riot's vision with kha'zix is pretty simple "oh jesus why won't this champion ever be balanced"

W max khaziks will be pretty good imo. The increased monster damage will make his waveclear insanely strong. Could end up being decent pick for poke comp. Aoe 50% slow is nothing to scoff at.


That's a jungle only change. Monsters =|= minions. However, I still think khazix might find a niche with the new 50% slow on W.


Oh wtf. Lameeee.

I would have been back to the original Kha'zix play if it worked on creeps. Riot sure avoids that.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 00:23:42
June 04 2014 00:23 GMT
#48
On June 04 2014 09:16 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:37 AsnSensation wrote:
maybe this patch might finally unleash rengar on the pro scene again, can't remember the last time he wasn't banned.

Well he went from 100% picked/banned to disabled for months to nerf to never played again.
I wonder we'll ever see Shen anymore as well, dunno if he's still disabled. He was good against Renek but since everyone gets TP now, I'm not really sure pros would pick him.

Shen and rango are still disabled in 4.8 for competitive.
On June 04 2014 09:19 Gahlo wrote:
This just in: Lee, Eve, and Elise are playing rock paper scissors to decide who gets hit with the nerf bat next.

J4's time to shine (by default)
Glorious SEA doto
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 00:27:47
June 04 2014 00:24 GMT
#49
On June 04 2014 09:19 Gahlo wrote:
This just in: Lee, Eve, and Elise are playing rock paper scissors to decide who gets hit with the nerf bat next.


well hopefully it's not eve cause I just bought her. here's a question. I started playing draft normals for like the past week after playing months of nothing but arams and was wondering if/how long I should keep doing that before I do ranked. anyone have any advice about it? btw I'm pretty terrible
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
June 04 2014 00:28 GMT
#50
On June 04 2014 09:24 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 09:19 Gahlo wrote:
This just in: Lee, Eve, and Elise are playing rock paper scissors to decide who gets hit with the nerf bat next.


well hopefully it's not eve cause I just bought her. here's a question. I started playing draft normals for like the past week after playing months of nothing but arams and was wondering if/how long I should keep doing that before I do ranked. anyone have any advice about it? btw I'm pretty terrible

You should be fine now.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
June 04 2014 00:33 GMT
#51
Without the jungle xp scale, I think the lane minion xp will surpass jungle xp by 9 minute or something.
A minion wave will give more xp than wraith+wolf camp, and that is 30sec spawn vs 1min spawn.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 04 2014 00:33 GMT
#52
On June 04 2014 09:11 JazzVortical wrote:
They should have removed the damage reduction a loooooooong time ago. The execute damage on Q was also stupid, considering its low cost and cooldown. I still think leap getting a full reset on assist only is dumb, but just have to wait and see how kha'34576 works out.

If only they took this sort of love of getting an evolving champion with different paths to work to Viktor and his augments...


I think it was a lot more manageable when pink wards were invisible.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 04 2014 00:38 GMT
#53
soo anyone played on the PBE? only change that sounds massive is that jungle thing. seems like it really lays down the hammer on the few feral junglers that were getting a little play in solo queue like yi. Im also interested in how it will affect junglers that rely being on solos level to be effective (eve comes to mind), elise and lee can still be pretty effective without being high level. Is this change big enough to bring back slower junglers or is it a meaningless change?
I come in for the scraps
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 04 2014 00:39 GMT
#54
On June 04 2014 09:24 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 09:19 Gahlo wrote:
This just in: Lee, Eve, and Elise are playing rock paper scissors to decide who gets hit with the nerf bat next.


well hopefully it's not eve cause I just bought her. here's a question. I started playing draft normals for like the past week after playing months of nothing but arams and was wondering if/how long I should keep doing that before I do ranked. anyone have any advice about it? btw I'm pretty terrible


Whenever you want to.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
June 04 2014 00:42 GMT
#55
On June 04 2014 09:23 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 09:16 -Zoda- wrote:
On June 04 2014 07:37 AsnSensation wrote:
maybe this patch might finally unleash rengar on the pro scene again, can't remember the last time he wasn't banned.

Well he went from 100% picked/banned to disabled for months to nerf to never played again.
I wonder we'll ever see Shen anymore as well, dunno if he's still disabled. He was good against Renek but since everyone gets TP now, I'm not really sure pros would pick him.

Shen and rango are still disabled in 4.8 for competitive.
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 09:19 Gahlo wrote:
This just in: Lee, Eve, and Elise are playing rock paper scissors to decide who gets hit with the nerf bat next.

J4's time to shine (by default)


J4 is a really good support actually

Free Tank Stats? Check

Good Initiate? Check

Has tenacity proof CC? Check

Bonus damage for your AD? Check

Functionally Immune to Roots? Check

So long as you're smart about ulting in team fights (ult their divers to prevent them from killing your AD and use your bonus pen to shred faster than the enemy rather than ulting the AD who has a dash) you're going to be fine.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 04 2014 00:44 GMT
#56
On June 04 2014 09:20 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 09:17 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 04 2014 09:16 zodde wrote:
On June 04 2014 09:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 04 2014 08:59 Fusilero wrote:
On June 04 2014 08:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 04 2014 08:55 Fusilero wrote:
On June 04 2014 08:34 wei2coolman wrote:
Not sure what riot wants to do with khaziks with these changes.

Utility jungle kha'zix, kha will soon go the way of elise you just wait.

I don't particularly care too much about changes. Personally I like the changes because I've always liked W max build a bit more. Just curious what Riot's vision for khaziks are.

Oh riot's vision with kha'zix is pretty simple "oh jesus why won't this champion ever be balanced"

W max khaziks will be pretty good imo. The increased monster damage will make his waveclear insanely strong. Could end up being decent pick for poke comp. Aoe 50% slow is nothing to scoff at.


That's a jungle only change. Monsters =|= minions. However, I still think khazix might find a niche with the new 50% slow on W.


Oh wtf. Lameeee.

I would have been back to the original Kha'zix play if it worked on creeps. Riot sure avoids that.

Well
Wouldn't work quite the same. Before he would reck with double isolation damage along with his ridiculous leap burst. Now he can't burst as hard
liftlift > tsm
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 04 2014 00:45 GMT
#57
RIP in Khasix you will be missed
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
June 04 2014 00:50 GMT
#58
On June 04 2014 09:45 MooMooMugi wrote:
RIP in Khasix you will be missed

he was banned in pretty much every game anyway
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 04 2014 00:54 GMT
#59
Man now that I got my smurf to plat 5 now I have totally lost all motivations to play this game. Unfortunately I don't have any other games to play either...

+ Show Spoiler +

Truth be told, I still got Assassin's Creed 2, The Witcher 2, Tomb Raider, Amnesia, Left 4 Dead 2, and HoMM6 on my Steam library.... but fuck it I'm just going to play more Skyrim lol.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
iremnant3847
Profile Joined June 2012
Taiwan269 Posts
June 04 2014 01:22 GMT
#60
The bug has been squashed...and its corpse has been wrapped up in tissue paper and flushed down the toilet.
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