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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.
Enough is enough. Let's move along now.
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On June 17 2014 11:02 Sufficiency wrote:
They were forced to. Brokenshard was basically out for at leadt 4 weeks.
Poor guy. Tried so hard to get in LCS and got kicked in this fashion.
Now pleasssssseeeee replace westrice. CoL has to be retarded to keep him playing. Look. Cris is available. Even grabbiing him will be a huge upgrade.
I wonder if Cris will sit at the tower and cry for ganks like he does in normal games
he is like Hashinshin 1.0.
Or used to be atleast
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On June 17 2014 11:33 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 11:02 Sufficiency wrote:
They were forced to. Brokenshard was basically out for at leadt 4 weeks.
Poor guy. Tried so hard to get in LCS and got kicked in this fashion.
Now pleasssssseeeee replace westrice. CoL has to be retarded to keep him playing. Look. Cris is available. Even grabbiing him will be a huge upgrade. I wonder if Cris will sit at the tower and cry for ganks like he does in normal games he is like Hashinshin 1.0. Or used to be atleast
I hear a lot about Cris's altitude problems. Probably true. But seriously westrice is:
1. Mechanically, not good at all; he loses lane by himself. Every. Single. Time.
2. He plays on tilt when he is behind.
Cris will be a HUGE upgrade over Westrice. Simple as that.
Alternatives:
Benny - IMO pretty decent while at XDG.
MegaZero - if he still wants to play
Californiatrolol - pretty solid as far as I can tell
Cruzer - still a huge upgrade over westrice
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On June 17 2014 11:43 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 11:33 arb wrote:On June 17 2014 11:02 Sufficiency wrote:
They were forced to. Brokenshard was basically out for at leadt 4 weeks.
Poor guy. Tried so hard to get in LCS and got kicked in this fashion.
Now pleasssssseeeee replace westrice. CoL has to be retarded to keep him playing. Look. Cris is available. Even grabbiing him will be a huge upgrade. I wonder if Cris will sit at the tower and cry for ganks like he does in normal games he is like Hashinshin 1.0. Or used to be atleast I hear a lot about Cris's altitude problems. Probably true. But seriously westrice is: 1. Mechanically, not good at all; he loses lane by himself. Every. Single. Time. 2. He plays on tilt when he is behind. Cris will be a HUGE upgrade over Westrice. Simple as that. Alternatives: Benny - IMO pretty decent while at XDG. MegaZero - if he still wants to play Californiatrolol - pretty solid as far as I can tell Cruzer - still a huge upgrade over westrice
i do not have any insight into the situation, nor am i saying that coL is looking to replace westrice
but
cris + pr0lly did not get along well on velocity
nor did pr0lly + megazero on coL
cruzer is likely still contracted to dig until the end of this split
benny is "retired" (though that word means practically nothing in this industry)
and calitrololz is on arguably the "best" NACS team, the one that would be most likely to face coL in the event that they finish last
i would be pretty surprised if coL replaced westrice with any of these players (or at all)
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Saint said that Cris is still part of CA, but not sure in any capacity beyond a sub. He didn't say who'd be playing on Thursday.
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Would be more interesting if they just picked up "PreciousMemories" for the lulz. Unless its a pro's smurf.
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yeah I don't know if coL would replace west, there isn't anyone really good enough to replace him (at least from NA obviously). from what I can see there isnt a deep pool of skilled toplaners in NA.
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i wish someone would just draft fabbbyyy already
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Why would you draft fabbyyy when keithmcbrief is available?
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On June 17 2014 11:59 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 11:43 Sufficiency wrote:On June 17 2014 11:33 arb wrote:On June 17 2014 11:02 Sufficiency wrote:
They were forced to. Brokenshard was basically out for at leadt 4 weeks.
Poor guy. Tried so hard to get in LCS and got kicked in this fashion.
Now pleasssssseeeee replace westrice. CoL has to be retarded to keep him playing. Look. Cris is available. Even grabbiing him will be a huge upgrade. I wonder if Cris will sit at the tower and cry for ganks like he does in normal games he is like Hashinshin 1.0. Or used to be atleast I hear a lot about Cris's altitude problems. Probably true. But seriously westrice is: 1. Mechanically, not good at all; he loses lane by himself. Every. Single. Time. 2. He plays on tilt when he is behind. Cris will be a HUGE upgrade over Westrice. Simple as that. Alternatives: Benny - IMO pretty decent while at XDG. MegaZero - if he still wants to play Californiatrolol - pretty solid as far as I can tell Cruzer - still a huge upgrade over westrice i do not have any insight into the situation, nor am i saying that coL is looking to replace westrice but cris + pr0lly did not get along well on velocity nor did pr0lly + megazero on coL cruzer is likely still contracted to dig until the end of this split benny is "retired" (though that word means practically nothing in this industry) and calitrololz is on arguably the "best" NACS team, the one that would be most likely to face coL in the event that they finish last i would be pretty surprised if coL replaced westrice with any of these players (or at all)
I see. Thanks for your insight. I still see Benny with some potential if he decides to come out of retirement though.
Also, I think if CoL wants to avoid last place they absolutely need to replace westrice. Last place is very dangerous on NA - you don't know when there is going to be another LMQ popping up.
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On June 17 2014 12:01 cLutZ wrote:
Would be more interesting if they just picked up "PreciousMemories" for the lulz. Unless its a pro's smurf.
I'm pretty sure that's someone on LMQ, I think Akerman? But I could be mistaken
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On June 17 2014 11:02 Sufficiency wrote:
They were forced to. Brokenshard was basically out for at leadt 4 weeks.
Poor guy. Tried so hard to get in LCS and got kicked in this fashion.
Now pleasssssseeeee replace westrice. CoL has to be retarded to keep him playing. Look. Cris is available. Even grabbiing him will be a huge upgrade.
Replace with koreans plz.
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On June 17 2014 11:43 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 11:33 arb wrote:On June 17 2014 11:02 Sufficiency wrote:
They were forced to. Brokenshard was basically out for at leadt 4 weeks.
Poor guy. Tried so hard to get in LCS and got kicked in this fashion.
Now pleasssssseeeee replace westrice. CoL has to be retarded to keep him playing. Look. Cris is available. Even grabbiing him will be a huge upgrade. I wonder if Cris will sit at the tower and cry for ganks like he does in normal games he is like Hashinshin 1.0. Or used to be atleast I hear a lot about Cris's altitude problems. Probably true. But seriously westrice is: 1. Mechanically, not good at all; he loses lane by himself. Every. Single. Time. 2. He plays on tilt when he is behind.
Can't say I disagree with these points. Westrice has been "good" for a long time, he was one of the original lol pros, but he's never been top tier, which pretty much means he's peaked. Competing full time, and he still is worst top LCSNA by a large margin means he probably will never improve at this point. He's one of the few top laners who give up 1v1 kills consistently, which is really saying something. AFAIK most of the korean amateur teams, even when getting stomped by pros in qualifiers don't outright feed over and over again from misjudging situations.
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On June 17 2014 13:35 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 11:43 Sufficiency wrote:On June 17 2014 11:33 arb wrote:On June 17 2014 11:02 Sufficiency wrote:
They were forced to. Brokenshard was basically out for at leadt 4 weeks.
Poor guy. Tried so hard to get in LCS and got kicked in this fashion.
Now pleasssssseeeee replace westrice. CoL has to be retarded to keep him playing. Look. Cris is available. Even grabbiing him will be a huge upgrade. I wonder if Cris will sit at the tower and cry for ganks like he does in normal games he is like Hashinshin 1.0. Or used to be atleast I hear a lot about Cris's altitude problems. Probably true. But seriously westrice is: 1. Mechanically, not good at all; he loses lane by himself. Every. Single. Time. 2. He plays on tilt when he is behind. Can't say I disagree with these points. Westrice has been "good" for a long time, he was one of the original lol pros, but he's never been top tier, which pretty much means he's peaked. Competing full time, and he still is worst top LCSNA by a large margin means he probably will never improve at this point. He's one of the few top laners who give up 1v1 kills consistently, which is really saying something. AFAIK most of the korean amateur teams, even when getting stomped by pros in qualifiers don't outright feed over and over again from misjudging situations.
I like Westrice. His akali back in the day was the stuff of legends. But honestly, he's not very good when compared to other pros. There's a reason he's never been in the LCS or top tier pro scene until now.
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On June 17 2014 11:43 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 11:33 arb wrote:On June 17 2014 11:02 Sufficiency wrote:
They were forced to. Brokenshard was basically out for at leadt 4 weeks.
Poor guy. Tried so hard to get in LCS and got kicked in this fashion.
Now pleasssssseeeee replace westrice. CoL has to be retarded to keep him playing. Look. Cris is available. Even grabbiing him will be a huge upgrade. I wonder if Cris will sit at the tower and cry for ganks like he does in normal games he is like Hashinshin 1.0. Or used to be atleast I hear a lot about Cris's altitude problems. Probably true. But seriously westrice is: 1. Mechanically, not good at all; he loses lane by himself. Every. Single. Time. 2. He plays on tilt when he is behind. Cris will be a HUGE upgrade over Westrice. Simple as that. Alternatives: Benny - IMO pretty decent while at XDG. MegaZero - if he still wants to play Californiatrolol - pretty solid as far as I can tell Cruzer - still a huge upgrade over westrice
Mega is a sub for TSM, so if they wanted to go that route it would heavily depend on how that is all set up.
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On June 17 2014 12:30 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 11:02 Sufficiency wrote:
They were forced to. Brokenshard was basically out for at leadt 4 weeks.
Poor guy. Tried so hard to get in LCS and got kicked in this fashion.
Now pleasssssseeeee replace westrice. CoL has to be retarded to keep him playing. Look. Cris is available. Even grabbiing him will be a huge upgrade. Replace with koreans plz.
That's an interesting point, but I am not sure if CoL can grab someone this fast from Korea.
If CoL got half a brain they would be looking for another ex-pro or a top laner from the NA challenger scene right now.
Maybe they are doing it as we speak and the details are not finalized yet. I feel westrice won't be playing for more than 2 weeks and he knows it.
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On June 17 2014 13:52 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 13:35 Amui wrote:On June 17 2014 11:43 Sufficiency wrote:On June 17 2014 11:33 arb wrote:On June 17 2014 11:02 Sufficiency wrote:
They were forced to. Brokenshard was basically out for at leadt 4 weeks.
Poor guy. Tried so hard to get in LCS and got kicked in this fashion.
Now pleasssssseeeee replace westrice. CoL has to be retarded to keep him playing. Look. Cris is available. Even grabbiing him will be a huge upgrade. I wonder if Cris will sit at the tower and cry for ganks like he does in normal games he is like Hashinshin 1.0. Or used to be atleast I hear a lot about Cris's altitude problems. Probably true. But seriously westrice is: 1. Mechanically, not good at all; he loses lane by himself. Every. Single. Time. 2. He plays on tilt when he is behind. Can't say I disagree with these points. Westrice has been "good" for a long time, he was one of the original lol pros, but he's never been top tier, which pretty much means he's peaked. Competing full time, and he still is worst top LCSNA by a large margin means he probably will never improve at this point. He's one of the few top laners who give up 1v1 kills consistently, which is really saying something. AFAIK most of the korean amateur teams, even when getting stomped by pros in qualifiers don't outright feed over and over again from misjudging situations. I like Westrice. His akali back in the day was the stuff of legends. But honestly, he's not very good when compared to other pros. There's a reason he's never been in the LCS or top tier pro scene until now.
That's more because akali used to be the stuff of legend. She's since been nerfed 4-5 times, significantly.
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On June 17 2014 15:03 ItsFunToLose wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 13:52 Ryuu314 wrote:On June 17 2014 13:35 Amui wrote:On June 17 2014 11:43 Sufficiency wrote:On June 17 2014 11:33 arb wrote:On June 17 2014 11:02 Sufficiency wrote:
They were forced to. Brokenshard was basically out for at leadt 4 weeks.
Poor guy. Tried so hard to get in LCS and got kicked in this fashion.
Now pleasssssseeeee replace westrice. CoL has to be retarded to keep him playing. Look. Cris is available. Even grabbiing him will be a huge upgrade. I wonder if Cris will sit at the tower and cry for ganks like he does in normal games he is like Hashinshin 1.0. Or used to be atleast I hear a lot about Cris's altitude problems. Probably true. But seriously westrice is: 1. Mechanically, not good at all; he loses lane by himself. Every. Single. Time. 2. He plays on tilt when he is behind. Can't say I disagree with these points. Westrice has been "good" for a long time, he was one of the original lol pros, but he's never been top tier, which pretty much means he's peaked. Competing full time, and he still is worst top LCSNA by a large margin means he probably will never improve at this point. He's one of the few top laners who give up 1v1 kills consistently, which is really saying something. AFAIK most of the korean amateur teams, even when getting stomped by pros in qualifiers don't outright feed over and over again from misjudging situations. I like Westrice. His akali back in the day was the stuff of legends. But honestly, he's not very good when compared to other pros. There's a reason he's never been in the LCS or top tier pro scene until now. That's more because akali used to be the stuff of legend. She's since been nerfed 4-5 times, significantly.
Even when it was nerfed he was still one of the best Akali players.
not to mention he was the first adopters of Zed in high elo play. He had a 65% winrate on him despite the weird W bug for those months.
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Debating hypothetical substitutions here is worse than the worst of armchair champion theorycraft.
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On June 17 2014 15:34 xes wrote:
Debating hypothetical substitutions here is worse than the worst of armchair champion theorycraft.
Difference between discussion and debate.
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On June 17 2014 15:34 xes wrote:
Debating hypothetical substitutions here is worse than the worst of armchair champion theorycraft.
Why? It's somewhat interesting and League related. Not sure what the problem is.
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