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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.

Enough is enough. Let's move along now.

-NeoIllusions
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 14 2014 18:21 GMT
#2101
They're giving Nid cougar form at level 1? Are they trying to make her more obnoxious?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22610 Posts
June 14 2014 18:32 GMT
#2102
On June 15 2014 03:21 zer0das wrote:
They're giving Nid cougar form at level 1? Are they trying to make her more obnoxious?

Nidalees problem isnt cougher form.
Its having the hardest hitting poke in the game while almost a full screen away combined with some of the highest mobility and a heal, which also doubles as an aspd boost.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 14 2014 18:49 GMT
#2103
You don't realise how annoying it is to deal with the amount of free waveclear (with quite some incidental AoE) Nidalee has. It's not so much the case mid, where about everyone clears super well in the current meta save for Kassadin, but top it was quite atrocious when she'd just come, kill the wave, and unless you were ahead (and could punish the pounce cd) there wasn't much you could do about it.

I'm more concerned about her ult's cd. When it's under 2s, and with all the pounce resets she can get, she could be more mobile than she is now.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 14 2014 18:58 GMT
#2104
On June 15 2014 03:21 zer0das wrote:
They're giving Nid cougar form at level 1? Are they trying to make her more obnoxious?

I'm just not a fan of the design decision to make cougar available level 1. I liked the interesting power spike that it gave Nid at level 6 to have an entire set of skills to access, not to mention it made her pre-6 relatively weak, which is a mechanic we need to see more of, and less of this homogenized power curve.
liftlift > tsm
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 14 2014 19:05 GMT
#2105
nerf her heal and her mobility or something
Bronze player stuck in platinum
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
June 14 2014 22:04 GMT
#2106
On June 15 2014 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 03:21 zer0das wrote:
They're giving Nid cougar form at level 1? Are they trying to make her more obnoxious?

I'm just not a fan of the design decision to make cougar available level 1. I liked the interesting power spike that it gave Nid at level 6 to have an entire set of skills to access, not to mention it made her pre-6 relatively weak, which is a mechanic we need to see more of, and less of this homogenized power curve.

I completely agree with this. I don't want it to be where riot changes the power spike curves to be in line with each other. I want to be able to abuse times where one champ is stronger than other and have a more nuanced power curve than just 1-5, 6-10, 11-15,16-18.
User was warned for too many mimes.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 14 2014 23:19 GMT
#2107
On June 15 2014 07:04 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 15 2014 03:21 zer0das wrote:
They're giving Nid cougar form at level 1? Are they trying to make her more obnoxious?

I'm just not a fan of the design decision to make cougar available level 1. I liked the interesting power spike that it gave Nid at level 6 to have an entire set of skills to access, not to mention it made her pre-6 relatively weak, which is a mechanic we need to see more of, and less of this homogenized power curve.

I completely agree with this. I don't want it to be where riot changes the power spike curves to be in line with each other. I want to be able to abuse times where one champ is stronger than other and have a more nuanced power curve than just 1-5, 6-10, 11-15,16-18.


I also agree with this, in theory. However, I actually think this one change is somewhat healthy, because it appears that Riot is admitting that they don't have the skill to balance unique champions/powercurves. They did the same with Kassadin. Its not ideal, but at least they are identifying the areas they are incompetent.
Freeeeeeedom
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-14 23:54:37
June 14 2014 23:50 GMT
#2108
On June 15 2014 08:19 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 07:04 docvoc wrote:
On June 15 2014 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 15 2014 03:21 zer0das wrote:
They're giving Nid cougar form at level 1? Are they trying to make her more obnoxious?

I'm just not a fan of the design decision to make cougar available level 1. I liked the interesting power spike that it gave Nid at level 6 to have an entire set of skills to access, not to mention it made her pre-6 relatively weak, which is a mechanic we need to see more of, and less of this homogenized power curve.

I completely agree with this. I don't want it to be where riot changes the power spike curves to be in line with each other. I want to be able to abuse times where one champ is stronger than other and have a more nuanced power curve than just 1-5, 6-10, 11-15,16-18.


I also agree with this, in theory. However, I actually think this one change is somewhat healthy, because it appears that Riot is admitting that they don't have the skill to balance unique champions/powercurves. They did the same with Kassadin. Its not ideal, but at least they are identifying the areas they are incompetent.


And we all know how well that worked... : D
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
June 15 2014 00:10 GMT
#2109
i dont know why they constantly change nidalee. shes a fine champ since a long time. picked often but not banned often, that is the best case szenario for a champ. i never saw a match and went "omg one side has nidalee, its won/lost for the other side now." she was interesting and balanced in almost every patch. the changes just add noise to the game and confuse everyone. leave her alone riot.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
June 15 2014 00:51 GMT
#2110
On June 15 2014 09:10 clickrush wrote:
i dont know why they constantly change nidalee. shes a fine champ since a long time. picked often but not banned often, that is the best case szenario for a champ. i never saw a match and went "omg one side has nidalee, its won/lost for the other side now." she was interesting and balanced in almost every patch. the changes just add noise to the game and confuse everyone. leave her alone riot.

You are probably the only person in the world who thinks that
Platinum Support GOD
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 15 2014 00:51 GMT
#2111
On June 15 2014 08:50 Prog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 08:19 cLutZ wrote:
On June 15 2014 07:04 docvoc wrote:
On June 15 2014 03:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 15 2014 03:21 zer0das wrote:
They're giving Nid cougar form at level 1? Are they trying to make her more obnoxious?

I'm just not a fan of the design decision to make cougar available level 1. I liked the interesting power spike that it gave Nid at level 6 to have an entire set of skills to access, not to mention it made her pre-6 relatively weak, which is a mechanic we need to see more of, and less of this homogenized power curve.

I completely agree with this. I don't want it to be where riot changes the power spike curves to be in line with each other. I want to be able to abuse times where one champ is stronger than other and have a more nuanced power curve than just 1-5, 6-10, 11-15,16-18.


I also agree with this, in theory. However, I actually think this one change is somewhat healthy, because it appears that Riot is admitting that they don't have the skill to balance unique champions/powercurves. They did the same with Kassadin. Its not ideal, but at least they are identifying the areas they are incompetent.


And we all know how well that worked... : D


Better to have tried and failed than to not try at all (Rengar, Vlad, Thresh).
Freeeeeeedom
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
June 15 2014 01:00 GMT
#2112
On June 15 2014 09:10 clickrush wrote:
i dont know why they constantly change nidalee. shes a fine champ since a long time. picked often but not banned often, that is the best case szenario for a champ. i never saw a match and went "omg one side has nidalee, its won/lost for the other side now." she was interesting and balanced in almost every patch. the changes just add noise to the game and confuse everyone. leave her alone riot.

Becuz like the old Ryze, it's like playing against a timebomb.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 15 2014 01:48 GMT
#2113
On June 15 2014 01:13 kongoline wrote:
holy fuck lulu top is cancer ....

Ya its retarded and annoying
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
June 15 2014 02:22 GMT
#2114
On June 15 2014 10:00 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 09:10 clickrush wrote:
i dont know why they constantly change nidalee. shes a fine champ since a long time. picked often but not banned often, that is the best case szenario for a champ. i never saw a match and went "omg one side has nidalee, its won/lost for the other side now." she was interesting and balanced in almost every patch. the changes just add noise to the game and confuse everyone. leave her alone riot.

Becuz like the old Ryze, it's like playing against a timebomb.


No, less a timebomb and more an RNG. Does Nidalee land spears? If yes, go back to base while the other team gets objectives. If no, win game. Throw enough spears and a few will connect. It makes playing against the champion (and watching her) uninteresting and annoying.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 15 2014 02:35 GMT
#2115
On June 15 2014 11:22 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 10:00 canikizu wrote:
On June 15 2014 09:10 clickrush wrote:
i dont know why they constantly change nidalee. shes a fine champ since a long time. picked often but not banned often, that is the best case szenario for a champ. i never saw a match and went "omg one side has nidalee, its won/lost for the other side now." she was interesting and balanced in almost every patch. the changes just add noise to the game and confuse everyone. leave her alone riot.

Becuz like the old Ryze, it's like playing against a timebomb.


No, less a timebomb and more an RNG. Does Nidalee land spears? If yes, go back to base while the other team gets objectives. If no, win game. Throw enough spears and a few will connect. It makes playing against the champion (and watching her) uninteresting and annoying.

Yeah i've never had a point where i was like "Man Nidalee is farmed shes gonna shit on us 1v5" But more of a "why did that spear hit me when it was half the screen beside me" Because the hitbox is obnoxious as fuck
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 15 2014 02:40 GMT
#2116
Just me, or NA gone to shit?
liftlift > tsm
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 15 2014 02:42 GMT
#2117
On June 15 2014 11:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Just me, or NA gone to shit?

Not just you lol. I think playing on Latin America North while NA is down or laggy as crap would be the best move and it's easy to sign up but granted it's in spanish so it might take some time to get used to but it should be worth it.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 15 2014 02:44 GMT
#2118
On June 15 2014 11:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 11:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Just me, or NA gone to shit?

Not just you lol. I think playing on Latin America North while NA is down or laggy as crap would be the best move and it's easy to sign up but granted it's in spanish so it might take some time to get used to but it should be worth it.

EUW gets new server center.

NA gets server issues.

coincidence?
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 15 2014 02:51 GMT
#2119
On June 15 2014 11:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 11:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 15 2014 11:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Just me, or NA gone to shit?

Not just you lol. I think playing on Latin America North while NA is down or laggy as crap would be the best move and it's easy to sign up but granted it's in spanish so it might take some time to get used to but it should be worth it.

EUW gets new server center.

NA gets server issues.

coincidence?

Riot said they'd work on NA when they were finished EUW. Last I heard they were finishing up in Amsterdam soon.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 15 2014 02:51 GMT
#2120
Rito pls.

Dat server.
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