Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.

Enough is enough. Let's move along now.

-NeoIllusions

Amui

Canada10567 Posts

June 15 2014 08:45 GMT

#2141

On June 15 2014 17:40 Ryuu314 wrote:

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all servers everywhere are randomly blowing up today

there are claims of people ddosing servers, but don't know how substantiated that is.

Game was dropped. No match history as usual.

Fildun

Netherlands4122 Posts

June 15 2014 08:48 GMT

#2142

ONLY ONE SERVER REMAINS
EUW THE DREAM

GolemMadness

Canada11044 Posts

June 15 2014 08:51 GMT

#2143

On June 15 2014 15:21 Sufficiency wrote:

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Or you can just play something like WW or Yi, mute yout entire team, farm for 15 minutes, then carry your team yourself.

Ganks are overrated.

Any advice that involves pre-emptively muting your entire team is probably bad. Especially this advice.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

June 15 2014 09:48 GMT

#2144

I've had a few guys recently start the game with something along the lines of "btw I'll mute you all, don't take it badly but I can't bother with people flaming so I mute to focus on playing" then down the line respond to something someone said, not directed at them. Eh.

JazzVortical

Australia1825 Posts

June 15 2014 09:52 GMT

#2145

On June 15 2014 17:48 Fildun wrote:
ONLY ONE SERVER REMAINS
EUW THE DREAM

OCE has been stable the entire time it's been up

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Not that we matter much

Gahlo

United States35158 Posts

June 15 2014 12:26 GMT

#2146

Apparently the server issues from yesterday was caused by a group of BRs on raidcall.
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/286mwf/raidcalls_take_on_todays_lol_server_down/

Amarok

Australia2003 Posts

June 15 2014 12:38 GMT

#2147

On June 15 2014 18:52 JazzVortical wrote:

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OCE has been stable the entire time it's been up

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Not that we matter much

No it hasn't. It's ok now but OCE was a clusterfuck for months.

Sufficiency

Canada23833 Posts

June 15 2014 13:55 GMT

#2148

On June 15 2014 17:51 GolemMadness wrote:

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Any advice that involves pre-emptively muting your entire team is probably bad. Especially this advice.

I do jungle like that. But I don't mute my entire team.

Generally speaking I only go gank when I know I got 99% chance of getting the kill.

clickrush

Switzerland3257 Posts

June 15 2014 14:16 GMT

#2149

On June 15 2014 22:55 Sufficiency wrote:

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I do jungle like that. But I don't mute my entire team.

Generally speaking I only go gank when I know I got 99% chance of getting the kill.

if you only base your gank decisions on that you'll do a ton of mistakes. easily predictable kill success are sometimes bad ganking situations. especially if you risk your laners life. also there are obvious kills where your laner is pushed with 2 stacked up creepwaves. if you gank at this situation, you often don't gain anything, because your laner is losing 2 creepwaves worth of CS, and if he doesn't get the kill then you actually set him behind. worst case is one of you die but you get the kill.

then there are situations where you should gank but you have a low chance of killing, often if you can force a flash in a lane that is allready enough to force defensive laneing behaviour for at least a while, and you force them to invest in wards. for example by revisiting aggressive laners a couple times you set them off in their aggressive game plan. experienced laners will tone their aggression down if you show up in hairy situations. this has a neutralizing effect and only consts you half a minute per attempt. its not like you can constantly farm anyways.

Scip

Czech Republic11293 Posts

June 15 2014 14:22 GMT

#2150

Sufficiency's way of jungling is fine

Nos-

Canada12016 Posts

June 15 2014 15:04 GMT

#2151

yea I feel like a lot of high elo junglers just do their own thing most of the time

Slayer91

Ireland23335 Posts

June 15 2014 15:06 GMT

#2152

as opposed to what exactly?
doing someone elses thing?

arb

Noobville17921 Posts

June 15 2014 15:09 GMT

#2153

On June 16 2014 00:06 Slayer91 wrote:
as opposed to what exactly?
doing someone elses thing?

are you trolling or have you never had that expression before

Slayer91

Ireland23335 Posts

June 15 2014 15:11 GMT

#2154

i have but i have no idea what he's trying to convey

Sufficiency

Canada23833 Posts

June 15 2014 15:14 GMT

#2155

On June 16 2014 00:06 Slayer91 wrote:
as opposed to what exactly?
doing someone elses thing?

It is just that I am conservative when it comes to ganking. I don't show up unless I have reasonable belief that I can execute a successful gank or dive.

It is a low risk low reward playstyle. I don't think it is a terrible playstyle if you can execute correctly when the opportunity is there.

Of course it is also champion dependent.

Gorsameth

Netherlands21756 Posts

June 15 2014 15:14 GMT

#2156

On June 16 2014 00:11 Slayer91 wrote:
i have but i have no idea what he's trying to convey

I assume he means they ignore cries for help/ganks.

Scip

Czech Republic11293 Posts

June 15 2014 15:16 GMT

#2157

On June 16 2014 00:14 Sufficiency wrote:

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It's good enough to get challenger on EUW

Sufficiency

Canada23833 Posts

June 15 2014 15:19 GMT

#2158

On June 16 2014 00:14 Gorsameth wrote:

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I assume he means they ignore cries for help/ganks.

Pretty much. Which is why I have to mute my tteam sometimes =/

There are cases which I straight up lose the game because my laners go 0-8 before 6th minute because the opposing jungler ganked like a boss while I wasn't able to do much. I don't deny that this happens sometimes. But honestly I feel if there is so much discrepancy on the laners I will lose the game regardless.

Sufficiency

Canada23833 Posts

June 15 2014 15:19 GMT

#2159

On June 16 2014 00:16 Scip wrote:

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It's good enough to get challenger on EUW

NA challenger here I come!

Scip

Czech Republic11293 Posts

June 15 2014 15:21 GMT

#2160

That happens regardless of whether you try to gank for purposes other than getting like getting kills (like flash etc.) Chances are the enemy jungler had a lot better opportunities to gank because your laners played badly. Not always the case, but it very oftentimes is.