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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.

Enough is enough. Let's move along now.

-NeoIllusions
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
June 15 2014 08:45 GMT
#2141
On June 15 2014 17:40 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 17:27 Amui wrote:
Well either NA blew up, or my game just got drophacked. I wonder when Riot will put a fix out for this shit.

all servers everywhere are randomly blowing up today

there are claims of people ddosing servers, but don't know how substantiated that is.

Game was dropped. No match history as usual.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
June 15 2014 08:48 GMT
#2142
ONLY ONE SERVER REMAINS
EUW THE DREAM
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 15 2014 08:51 GMT
#2143
On June 15 2014 15:21 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 12:26 sylverfyre wrote:
I am so bad at jungle. I don't even really understand what I'm doing wrong, I just feel like I'm always a bit late to be in the right place at the right time, or I walk into an obvious trap countergank.



Or you can just play something like WW or Yi, mute yout entire team, farm for 15 minutes, then carry your team yourself.

Ganks are overrated.


Any advice that involves pre-emptively muting your entire team is probably bad. Especially this advice.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 15 2014 09:48 GMT
#2144
I've had a few guys recently start the game with something along the lines of "btw I'll mute you all, don't take it badly but I can't bother with people flaming so I mute to focus on playing" then down the line respond to something someone said, not directed at them. Eh.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 09:58:25
June 15 2014 09:52 GMT
#2145
On June 15 2014 17:48 Fildun wrote:
ONLY ONE SERVER REMAINS
EUW THE DREAM

OCE has been stable the entire time it's been up

+ Show Spoiler +
Not that we matter much
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
June 15 2014 12:26 GMT
#2146
Apparently the server issues from yesterday was caused by a group of BRs on raidcall.
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/286mwf/raidcalls_take_on_todays_lol_server_down/
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
June 15 2014 12:38 GMT
#2147
On June 15 2014 18:52 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 17:48 Fildun wrote:
ONLY ONE SERVER REMAINS
EUW THE DREAM

OCE has been stable the entire time it's been up

+ Show Spoiler +
Not that we matter much


No it hasn't. It's ok now but OCE was a clusterfuck for months.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 15 2014 13:55 GMT
#2148
On June 15 2014 17:51 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 15:21 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 15 2014 12:26 sylverfyre wrote:
I am so bad at jungle. I don't even really understand what I'm doing wrong, I just feel like I'm always a bit late to be in the right place at the right time, or I walk into an obvious trap countergank.



Or you can just play something like WW or Yi, mute yout entire team, farm for 15 minutes, then carry your team yourself.

Ganks are overrated.


Any advice that involves pre-emptively muting your entire team is probably bad. Especially this advice.


I do jungle like that. But I don't mute my entire team.

Generally speaking I only go gank when I know I got 99% chance of getting the kill.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 14:17:05
June 15 2014 14:16 GMT
#2149
On June 15 2014 22:55 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 17:51 GolemMadness wrote:
On June 15 2014 15:21 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 15 2014 12:26 sylverfyre wrote:
I am so bad at jungle. I don't even really understand what I'm doing wrong, I just feel like I'm always a bit late to be in the right place at the right time, or I walk into an obvious trap countergank.



Or you can just play something like WW or Yi, mute yout entire team, farm for 15 minutes, then carry your team yourself.

Ganks are overrated.


Any advice that involves pre-emptively muting your entire team is probably bad. Especially this advice.


I do jungle like that. But I don't mute my entire team.

Generally speaking I only go gank when I know I got 99% chance of getting the kill.


if you only base your gank decisions on that you'll do a ton of mistakes. easily predictable kill success are sometimes bad ganking situations. especially if you risk your laners life. also there are obvious kills where your laner is pushed with 2 stacked up creepwaves. if you gank at this situation, you often don't gain anything, because your laner is losing 2 creepwaves worth of CS, and if he doesn't get the kill then you actually set him behind. worst case is one of you die but you get the kill.

then there are situations where you should gank but you have a low chance of killing, often if you can force a flash in a lane that is allready enough to force defensive laneing behaviour for at least a while, and you force them to invest in wards. for example by revisiting aggressive laners a couple times you set them off in their aggressive game plan. experienced laners will tone their aggression down if you show up in hairy situations. this has a neutralizing effect and only consts you half a minute per attempt. its not like you can constantly farm anyways.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 15 2014 14:22 GMT
#2150
Sufficiency's way of jungling is fine
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 15 2014 15:04 GMT
#2151
yea I feel like a lot of high elo junglers just do their own thing most of the time
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 15:06:11
June 15 2014 15:06 GMT
#2152
as opposed to what exactly?
doing someone elses thing?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 15 2014 15:09 GMT
#2153
On June 16 2014 00:06 Slayer91 wrote:
as opposed to what exactly?
doing someone elses thing?

are you trolling or have you never had that expression before
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 15 2014 15:11 GMT
#2154
i have but i have no idea what he's trying to convey
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 15:15:39
June 15 2014 15:14 GMT
#2155
On June 16 2014 00:06 Slayer91 wrote:
as opposed to what exactly?
doing someone elses thing?


It is just that I am conservative when it comes to ganking. I don't show up unless I have reasonable belief that I can execute a successful gank or dive.

It is a low risk low reward playstyle. I don't think it is a terrible playstyle if you can execute correctly when the opportunity is there.

Of course it is also champion dependent.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22165 Posts
June 15 2014 15:14 GMT
#2156
On June 16 2014 00:11 Slayer91 wrote:
i have but i have no idea what he's trying to convey

I assume he means they ignore cries for help/ganks.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 15 2014 15:16 GMT
#2157
On June 16 2014 00:14 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 00:06 Slayer91 wrote:
as opposed to what exactly?
doing someone elses thing?


It is just that I am conservative when it comes to ganking. I don't show up unless I have reasonable belief that I can execute a successful gank or dive.

It is a low risk low reward playstyle. I don't think it is a terrible playstyle if you can execute correctly when the opportunity is there.

Of course it is also champion dependent.

It's good enough to get challenger on EUW
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 15 2014 15:19 GMT
#2158
On June 16 2014 00:14 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 00:11 Slayer91 wrote:
i have but i have no idea what he's trying to convey

I assume he means they ignore cries for help/ganks.


Pretty much. Which is why I have to mute my tteam sometimes =/

There are cases which I straight up lose the game because my laners go 0-8 before 6th minute because the opposing jungler ganked like a boss while I wasn't able to do much. I don't deny that this happens sometimes. But honestly I feel if there is so much discrepancy on the laners I will lose the game regardless.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 15 2014 15:19 GMT
#2159
On June 16 2014 00:16 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 00:14 Sufficiency wrote:
On June 16 2014 00:06 Slayer91 wrote:
as opposed to what exactly?
doing someone elses thing?


It is just that I am conservative when it comes to ganking. I don't show up unless I have reasonable belief that I can execute a successful gank or dive.

It is a low risk low reward playstyle. I don't think it is a terrible playstyle if you can execute correctly when the opportunity is there.

Of course it is also champion dependent.

It's good enough to get challenger on EUW


NA challenger here I come!
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 15:21:29
June 15 2014 15:21 GMT
#2160
That happens regardless of whether you try to gank for purposes other than getting like getting kills (like flash etc.) Chances are the enemy jungler had a lot better opportunities to gank because your laners played badly. Not always the case, but it very oftentimes is.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
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